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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @willie said: Hetzner seems to keep it almost secret that you can upgrade that machine all the way to 1TB, by adding 64GB modules per here:

    https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Root_Server_Hardware/en#RAM

    Before the whole pandemic stuff started, we had been planning a bigger campaign for this model, including a longer interview with a member of our product development team. This model's flexibility with adding RAM modules was part of that interview.
    But as things progressed, we thought it would be best to just quietly launch the product, so we didn't publish the interview. --Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @aRNoLD said:
    NC frequently rolls out new vers. I can't update and follow its every step timely. Now I am with ver 15. Hetzner will keep updating and always stay with the latest ver?

    Is "NC" here NextCloud? Our team will update the our NextCloud-based product Storage Share as soon as possible. There is always a bit of a delay with newer versions so that our team can test it first. For more information, please write a support request. -Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @willie said:

    @Mr_Tom said: This isn't the one that was recently available with no setup was it?

    I think that was the AX160 (EPYC 7401P) being cleared out.

    Exactly. The AX160 was the "older" model and did not have a setup fee to try to encourage more sales before we could release the newer generation, the AX161. Now that the AX160 is no longer part of the "new" line-up, you'll likely start to see it soon on the Server Auction. --Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @willie said: Hey Katie, any chance of letting some of us LES folks play around with an AX161 a little bit, to run some benches and the like? If it's in too high demand for that though, I understand ;)

    I don't think that we've ever really done something like this, and I don't think we're likely to. However, what about using a server like this for a short time in exchange for writing tutorials for our Hetzner Community...? Again, we've never really done something like this, so I am just talking about possible idea - not a concrete offer. I am really not sure if my supervisor would approve it. But I know that we are trying to encourage users to create more articles for the tutorials, so he'd probably be more likely to approve it. In this case, we would be sponsoring you in exchange for an agreed upon number of tutorials. If you think you might be interested, write to us at [email protected]. It would be good if you could give us an example of your writing and any ideas for tutorials that you could potentially write. (Again this is just an idea. My supervisor would still need to approve it.) --Katie

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  • That's an interesting idea with the tutorials. Ideally the tutorial would be about something that really uses the capabilities of the machine. I'll see if I can think of anything.

    I hope you are all staying safe there. The US is handling the virus situation absolutely terribly. Those of you who don't have to physically be at work (e.g. data center ops) should be working from home so I hope you are doing that.

  • @Hetzner_OL said:

    @aRNoLD said:
    NC frequently rolls out new vers. I can't update and follow its every step timely. Now I am with ver 15. Hetzner will keep updating and always stay with the latest ver?

    Is "NC" here NextCloud? Our team will update the our NextCloud-based product Storage Share as soon as possible. There is always a bit of a delay with newer versions so that our team can test it first. For more information, please write a support request. -Katie

    Thank you, Katie. Yes, I refer to NextCloud.

    I did a self-hosting job with my own machine, from ver 13, if my memory is correct.

    Actually, I think some sort of 'delay' would be a wise decision and reliable practice as there are always some bugs/glitches associated with NextCloud new releases which I've experienced a few times.

  • i like sisters.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @vbloods said:
    i like sisters.

    I'm sorry, but if this is a reference to a joke or something, I think it has gone over my head.

    @aRNoLD said:
    Actually, I think some sort of 'delay' would be a wise decision and reliable practice as there are always some bugs/glitches associated with NextCloud new releases which I've experienced a few times.

    Right, that's the same way our Storage Share team thinks as well. :) --Katie

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  • @vbloods said:
    i like sisters.

    Maybe try to grow up a bit? If growing up a bit is too difficult, then minimally: keep that on the other forum.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @Hetzner_OL said:

    @vbloods said:
    i like sisters.

    I'm sorry, but if this is a reference to a joke or something, I think it has gone over my head.

    @aRNoLD said:
    Actually, I think some sort of 'delay' would be a wise decision and reliable practice as there are always some bugs/glitches associated with NextCloud new releases which I've experienced a few times.

    Right, that's the same way our Storage Share team thinks as well. :) --Katie

    Ignore it, it's just a tired old joke from another provider.

  • @angstrom said:

    @vbloods said:
    i like sisters.

    Maybe try to grow up a bit? If growing up a bit is too difficult, then minimally: keep that on the other forum.

    At least I don't joke about 10,000 dead people.

    Congrats on your childish post.

    @angstrom said:

    @uptime said:

    Seriously, these days, for some reason, I have a craving for a Corona beer. I'm going to check the supermarket a bit later to see whether they have any!

  • @vbloods said: At least I don't joke about 10,000 dead people.

    Who joked about 10000 dead people?

    Congrats on your childish post.

    First of all, there's nothing wrong with Corona beer (which I've had on a number of occasions).

    I said that I had a craving for a Corona beer in reaction to that cartoon, and that cartoon was in no way a joke about 10000 dead people, and neither was my statement that I had a craving for a Corona beer a joke about 10000 dead people. Not to mention that the cartoon and my reaction were posted 10 days ago (on March 14).

    Even if you didn't appreciate my saying that I had a craving for a Corona beer in reaction to that cartoon, what does this have to do with your sexist comment in this thread started by a female representative of Hetzner -- a sexist comment that is also completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread? Not to mention a sexist comment that is in addition so old and tired and unoriginal: if you're really inclined to make an irrelevant sexist comment, at least try to be more original.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • I want a corona beer too @angstrom

  • @angstrom said:

    @vbloods said: At least I don't joke about 10,000 dead people.

    Who joked about 10000 dead people?

    Congrats on your childish post.

    First of all, there's nothing wrong with Corona beer (which I've had on a number of occasions).

    I said that I had a craving for a Corona beer in reaction to that cartoon, and that cartoon was in no way a joke about 10000 dead people, and neither was my statement that I had a craving for a Corona beer a joke about 10000 dead people. Not to mention that the cartoon and my reaction were posted 10 days ago (on March 14).

    Even if you didn't appreciate my saying that I had a craving for a Corona beer in reaction to that cartoon, what does this have to do with your sexist comment in this thread started by a female representative of Hetzner -- a sexist comment that is also completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread? Not to mention a sexist comment that is in addition so old and tired and unoriginal: if you're really inclined to make an irrelevant sexist comment, at least try to be more original.

    whatever , i'm busy , you win .

  • edited March 2020

    @vbloods said: whatever , i'm busy , you win .

    Wow, is this the best that you can do? Am disappoint.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • WSSWSS OG Guru Meditation Error

    Uh, guys..

    C'mon.. really?

    "It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington

  • Corona beer has rebranded to prevent being confused with coronavirus (don't remember whether I got this pic from here):

  • @willie said:
    Corona beer has rebranded to prevent being confused with coronavirus (don't remember whether I got this pic from here):

    prem beer.

  • @Neoon said:

    @willie said:
    Corona beer has rebranded to prevent being confused with coronavirus (don't remember whether I got this pic from here):

    prem beer.

    @Jord is that you?

  • @seriesn said:

    @Neoon said:

    @willie said:
    Corona beer has rebranded to prevent being confused with coronavirus (don't remember whether I got this pic from here):

    prem beer.

    @Jord is that you?

    My cover has been blown, fuck.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    We had some good news the other day: We beat our monthly record of number of newly deployed servers...by one. It's a small victory, but we'll take what we can get.
    Our teams in the DC have been working really, really hard, and I just wanted to give them some props. --Katie

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  • Congrats to all the team at Hetzner!
    Keep up the great work you're doing.

    Yours,
    Satisfied customer :)

  • @Hetzner_OL A quick question that crosses my mind every now and then:
    I am using Hetzner Cloud quite often to just test a few things here and there but sometimes even CX11 seems a bit to "powerful". :P
    It would be very nice to have a small (IPv6-only) instance (512MB RAM, 1vCPU, 10GB disk) for "next to nothing" - any plans on this? :D

  • @Elmo said:
    Congrats to all the team at Hetzner!
    Keep up the great work you're doing.

    Yours,
    Satisfied customer :)

    Indeed. Rack, stack, and deploy is hardwork.

    I'm not a customer, but I appreciate the effort.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @Bochi said:
    @Hetzner_OL A quick question that crosses my mind every now and then:
    I am using Hetzner Cloud quite often to just test a few things here and there but sometimes even CX11 seems a bit to "powerful". :P
    It would be very nice to have a small (IPv6-only) instance (512MB RAM, 1vCPU, 10GB disk) for "next to nothing" - any plans on this? :D

    Several years ago we had a Raspberry Pi with an ARM processor on it - at least, I think I am remembering that correctly. Unfortunately, there wasn't much demand for it, so we discontinued it.
    I don't think we have any plans at the moment to offer a smaller Cloud package, but I will pass on your feedback to the dev team. Thanks for the feedback!! :D --Katie

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  • Nah, the unit economics just don't make sense.

    The 2.5 eur boxes are great for dev/testing any OSS. No worries about minimum requirements for a 2-3 user use-case.

  • teamaccteamacc OG teamacc

    @Hetzner_OL said:

    @Bochi said:
    @Hetzner_OL A quick question that crosses my mind every now and then:
    I am using Hetzner Cloud quite often to just test a few things here and there but sometimes even CX11 seems a bit to "powerful". :P
    It would be very nice to have a small (IPv6-only) instance (512MB RAM, 1vCPU, 10GB disk) for "next to nothing" - any plans on this? :D

    Several years ago we had a Raspberry Pi with an ARM processor on it - at least, I think I am remembering that correctly. Unfortunately, there wasn't much demand for it, so we discontinued it.
    I don't think we have any plans at the moment to offer a smaller Cloud package, but I will pass on your feedback to the dev team. Thanks for the feedback!! :D --Katie

    Last I checked you offered an Odroid XU-4 (past tense). Quite a step up from pi levels at the time.

    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/61537/hetzner-entering-the-arm-market-with-servers-from-eur-11-88-eur-23-88/p1

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  • It's a shame little ARM dedis didn't take off. I really like renting them from Scaleway, and they're great for low end servers.

    I understand it though. The ARM ecosystem has wasted a great amount of good will and enthusiasm.

  • williewillie OG
    edited March 2020

    Yeah the thing you're remembering as a pi was the odroid xu-4 which was somewhat more powerful, though Hetzner's version was on the expensive side iirc. ARM not catching on was less a matter of goodwill than that they (so far) have never been that hot a server side proposition despite some attempts like Caviar. Of course that may eventually change.

    I don't think we need smaller vm's than the cx11, but the idea of an ipv6-only instances, or instances with no internet at all (internal hetzner network or vlan only) have attractions. Scaleway and AWS both offer that. They decrease the security attack surface, and save the cost of an ipv4 address. This applies to large vm's and dedis as well as small vm's.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @willie said: but the idea of an ipv6-only instances, or instances with no internet at all (internal hetzner network or vlan only) have attractions.

    I'll pass that feedback onto the team. Thanks! --Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it already, we've got the new Dell PowerEdge R6515 in our line up. We call it the DX181.

    Curious to learn more...? I asked one of our dev team members some questions about it. --Katie

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  • MikePTMikePT ProviderOG

    @Hetzner_OL said:
    Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it already, we've got the new Dell PowerEdge R6515 in our line up. We call it the DX181.

    Curious to learn more...? I asked one of our dev team members some questions about it. --Katie

    Meh, where's my NVMe server, Ryzen 3700X... :(

  • @Hetzner_OL when you create a server does it include an IPV4 address?
    the pricing page doesn't mention it, https://www.hetzner.com/cloud
    or will I need a floating IP to SSH into my machine? (if I don't have IPv6 capable internet connection)

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  • @evnix said:
    @Hetzner_OL when you create a server does it include an IPV4 address?
    the pricing page doesn't mention it, https://www.hetzner.com/cloud
    or will I need a floating IP to SSH into my machine? (if I don't have IPv6 capable internet connection)

    It's included, if you keep it attached to a server I believe. Otherwise they charge a nominal fee.

  • @Hetzner_OL said: Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it already, we've got the new Dell PowerEdge R6515 in our line up. We call it the DX181.

    Nice! EPYC 7502P. Very "Enterprise" :). Your old Threadripper AX server is gone from the AX page, so hopefully a new one (based on 3970X?) is coming. That's probably of more interest for LET hosting.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @evnix Each one of our cloud servers always has one IPv4 and one IPv6 Net (/64). If you want floating IPs, they are extra.
    If you have other questions, check out our wiki page: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/CloudServer/en --Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @MikePT said: where's my NVMe server, Ryzen 3700X... :(

    Our team's been in close contact with suppliers to try to fix logistics challenges. In addition, our HR team recently succeeded in finding new coworkers on very short notice for our Hardware Assembly team. Our team there is working as fast as they can while still trying to do quality work.

    @willie said: Very "Enterprise" :)

    Indeed. But I thought it might still catch someone's eye here. ;)

    @willie said: so hopefully a new one (based on 3970X?) is coming.

    You know the drill. I have to keep mum, even if I am actually really excited about something that's coming down the pipeline. But I'll keep posting news here. --Katie

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  • @Hetzner_OL said: finding new coworkers on very short notice

    I hope everyone is staying safe. Over here (USA) there is suddenly a gigantic amount of unemployment since so many businesses have had to stop operations. There's less issue finding people, than having ways for them to work safely on physical stuff like servers, requiring them to travel to and from the office or DC instead of working from quarantine. A DC is probably a good place to be though, relatively speaking, and if you can get to and from it.

  • MikePTMikePT ProviderOG

    @Hetzner_OL said: Our team's been in close contact with suppliers to try to fix logistics challenges. In addition, our HR team recently succeeded in finding new coworkers on very short notice for our Hardware Assembly team. Our team there is working as fast as they can while still trying to do quality work.

    Yep certainly, we'll wait patiently, there's no need to rush.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    The epic controversy over white mode or black mode continues. At Hetzner Cloud's user interface Cloud Console, we've added black mode, so you can now choose which one you prefer.

    See a preview here. --Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @willie Yeah, I know some people in the states who've already lost their jobs unfortunately. And there are similar things happening here.

    At Hetzner, people who are working remotely, myself included, are. And in the DCs, I'm sure we're taking precautions wherever we can. --Katie

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  • MikePTMikePT ProviderOG

    @Hetzner_OL said:
    The epic controversy over white mode or black mode continues. At Hetzner Cloud's user interface Cloud Console, we've added black mode, so you can now choose which one you prefer.

    See a preview here. --Katie

    Now this looks HAWT.

  • @Hetzner_OL Does traffic between Cloud and dedicated servers count towards the Cloud traffic cap?

  • @Hetzner_OL said: even if I am actually really excited about something that's coming down the pipeline.

    Ya know, this might not be what you had in mind, but a CX61 (basically 2x a CX51 in all dimensions) hosted on a large Epyc or TR3970X would be pretty handy.

    @Hetzner_OL said: At Hetzner, people who are working remotely, myself included, are. And in the DCs, I'm sure we're taking precautions wherever we can. --Katie

    I'm glad to hear this ;)

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @mikewazar said:
    @Hetzner_OL Does traffic between Cloud and dedicated servers count towards the Cloud traffic cap?

    We only calculate outgoing traffic in our monthly traffic limits. We do not include incoming and internal traffic in the calculation. Traffic between Hetzner Cloud servers and our dedicated root servers is internal traffic. The same is true for traffic between other Hetzner products. --Katie

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @willie said: Ya know, this might not be what you had in mind, but a CX61 (basically 2x a CX51 in all dimensions) hosted on a large Epyc or TR3970X would be pretty handy.

    Interesting...

    I'll pass that onto the dev team. :D --Katie

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  • iandkiandk ProviderOG
    edited April 2020

    Please include larger IPv6 subnets for the dedicated servers

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  • @Hetzner_OL said: I'll pass that onto the dev team. :D --Katie

    It would also be cool to use 3970X to host a CX12, CX22, etc. Those would have the exact same specs as the CX11, CX21 etc. (same # of cores and same ram) but would be faster because of the 3970x's higher frequency cpu. They would be a bit more expensive and possibly have cpu allocation than the current stuff, without being dedicated. This would be like Vultr's high frequency instances which are very nice.

    I think the idea of a CX61 has always been obvious to your devs: it just might not have been feasible when the cloud product was first introduced. It might be more doable now, using Epyc's higher core counts. I'm sure your team is already mindful of the possibilities. The CCX41 and CCX51 exist but the expensive resource in them is cpu, and users who want to run highly cached SQL or Redis instances mostly want high ram and are ok with shared cpu. So it would be great to have a CX61 that's similar. At least IME, the existing CX41 and CX51 have enough cpu headroom to handle multi-hour high-cpu tasks without throttling, so my hope is the imagined CX61 would be similar.

  • @Hetzner_OL said:
    At Hetzner, people who are working remotely, myself included, are. And in the DCs, I'm sure we're taking precautions wherever we can. --Katie

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL ProviderOG

    @iandk said:
    Please include larger IPv6 subnets for the dedicated servers

    You can order larger subnets if you need them for a fee. https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/IP-Adressen/en

    @willie said: I'm sure your team is already mindful of the possibilities.

    Yes, they are. But I don't want to reveal more than that. ;) --Katie

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