Started to use DA with a purpose today by migrating a live cPanel site.
Going well so far.
One thing that I noticed was the lack of a mod_security interface, to check loaded rules and the log etc.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural. It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
@AlwaysSkint said:
One thing that I noticed was the lack of a mod_security interface, to check loaded rules and the log etc.
Don't use WordPress, and you probably don't need to worry about this.
Having used an oscommerce derivative, amongst others for well over a decade, I can say that mod_sec is worthwhile even without a WP instance. As it happens, the migrated site is a WP one, 'cos Cloudlinux/cPanel caused major grief with max. memory availability (after 2 days of messing with settings). ;-)
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural. It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural. It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
@MikePT@SmallWeb Suppose I have a DA reseller hosting account from some hosting company but I already have my own remote dns running via multi server setup & want to utilize the reseller account with that remote DNS, is it possible currently with DirectAdmin?
@vpsgeek3333 said: @MikePT@SmallWeb Suppose I have a DA reseller hosting account from some hosting company but I already have my own remote dns running via multi server setup & want to utilize the reseller account with that remote DNS, is it possible currently with DirectAdmin?
Let me know if you do find a solution 'cause I'd be interested too
Initial thoughts:
ns1.yournameserver.com points to ns1.theirnameserver.com
have the admin somehow push your users dns zones to your cluster only/as well
automation that creates your dns zones using your resellers IP address
unknown api usage that I'm unaware of
????
profit
Haven't really taken a deep dive into things that aren't standard.
Sites hosted on DA load fast but when you access the control panel it is so slow. @MikePT the filemanager of LA shared does not load. When I click the icon, nothing. When I open in new tab, after the loading bar gets full, it just reopens the home screen.
@vpsgeek3333 said: @MikePT@SmallWeb Suppose I have a DA reseller hosting account from some hosting company but I already have my own remote dns running via multi server setup & want to utilize the reseller account with that remote DNS, is it possible currently with DirectAdmin?
Let me know if you do find a solution 'cause I'd be interested too
Initial thoughts:
ns1.yournameserver.com points to ns1.theirnameserver.com
have the admin somehow push your users dns zones to your cluster only/as well
automation that creates your dns zones using your resellers IP address
unknown api usage that I'm unaware of
????
profit
Haven't really taken a deep dive into things that aren't standard.
When you have a reseller, why should you setup your/run own dns instead of just pointing the reseller ns to your own? Is it actually easy to do?
And most hardest part is indeed selling the hosting.
@exp3 said:
Sites hosted on DA load fast but when you access the control panel it is so slow. @MikePT the filemanager of LA shared does not load. When I click the icon, nothing. When I open in new tab, after the loading bar gets full, it just reopens the home screen.
@vpsgeek3333 said: @MikePT@SmallWeb Suppose I have a DA reseller hosting account from some hosting company but I already have my own remote dns running via multi server setup & want to utilize the reseller account with that remote DNS, is it possible currently with DirectAdmin?
Let me know if you do find a solution 'cause I'd be interested too
Initial thoughts:
ns1.yournameserver.com points to ns1.theirnameserver.com
have the admin somehow push your users dns zones to your cluster only/as well
automation that creates your dns zones using your resellers IP address
unknown api usage that I'm unaware of
????
profit
Haven't really taken a deep dive into things that aren't standard.
When you have a reseller, why should you setup your/run own dns instead of just pointing the reseller ns to your own? Is it actually easy to do?
And most hardest part is indeed selling the hosting.
For my use case, I have a mix of reseller/vps so consistent NS would be nice.
I don’t think the multi server setup of DA can separate dns records between users/resellers. I know you could with cPanel DNS only as I believe Fran set it up with BuyShared.
@exp3 said: but when you access the control panel it is so slow. @MikePT the filemanager
Do you have lots of directories and content inside? I think that server has 'directory size count' enabled, that's why it's slow Just try turning it off and it should become fast then.
@exp3 said: but when you access the control panel it is so slow. @MikePT the filemanager
Do you have lots of directories and content inside? I think that server has 'directory size count' enabled, that's why it's slow Just try turning it off and it should become fast then.
Yep, that's the issue, I'll have this sorted today!
@AlwaysSkint said:
Started to use DA with a purpose today by migrating a live cPanel site.
Going well so far.
One thing that I noticed was the lack of a mod_security interface, to check loaded rules and the log etc.
@AlwaysSkint said:
Started to use DA with a purpose today by migrating a live cPanel site.
Going well so far.
One thing that I noticed was the lack of a mod_security interface, to check loaded rules and the log etc.
It's there now in pre-release.
Great news! Thanks.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural. It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
@imok said:
I'm trying to copy that text but I get ": "o61,21v8298,142t:urlDecod instead. It's the modsecurity log viewer. Does it happen to any of you?
Yep. Change the theme from Default to any other and you will be able to copy the text just fine.
@bikegremlin said:
A few more years, and it will be a finished product...
That’s a bit harsh. The development DA has had over the last year to 18 months has been phenomenal. The features and tweaks added for both users and admins has shown that they are interested in listening to feedback about their product but most importantly act on it and implement change.
@bikegremlin said:
A few more years, and it will be a finished product...
That’s a bit harsh. The development DA has had over the last year to 18 months has been phenomenal. The features and tweaks added for both users and admins has shown that they are interested in listening to feedback about their product but most importantly act on it and implement change.
All true, I agree.
If they bought out cPanel and offered it using DirectAdmin pricing model (along with their price-rise protection/guarantee), which one would you rather pick?
My point was they are still not there yet. Not working with the default theme - did I get that right? It looks like something that should have been tested more thoroughly.
But I agree the remark was a bit harsh - it's better to concentrate on the positives and provide constructive feedback.
@bikegremlin said:
If they bought out cPanel and offered it using DirectAdmin pricing model (along with their price-rise protection/guarantee), which one would you rather pick?
Honestly, at this point I would choose DA. Previously used cPanel extensively across all my servers and had never used DA prior to price increase mid 2019.
Since then, I have changed all my servers to DA. Yes it’s been a learning curve, sometimes quite steep but I now feel more comfortable using and maintaining DA.
@bikegremlin said:
A few more years, and it will be a finished product...
That’s a bit harsh. The development DA has had over the last year to 18 months has been phenomenal. The features and tweaks added for both users and admins has shown that they are interested in listening to feedback about their product but most importantly act on it and implement change.
All true, I agree.
If they bought out cPanel and offered it using DirectAdmin pricing model (along with their price-rise protection/guarantee), which one would you rather pick?
My point was they are still not there yet. Not working with the default theme - did I get that right? It looks like something that should have been tested more thoroughly.
But I agree the remark was a bit harsh - it's better to concentrate on the positives and provide constructive feedback.
IMO cPanel would need pretty much a re-write or a complete change in direction for me to use it now. Even if it was the same cost.
OFFTOPIC: Can we have a wiki or a searchable index of hosts offering DirectAdmin free and other goodies?
or at least a pinned thread here on this forum? @AnthonySmith
@Asim said: OFFTOPIC: Can we have a wiki or a searchable index of hosts offering DirectAdmin free and other goodies?
or at least a pinned thread here on this forum? @AnthonySmith
@Asim said: OFFTOPIC: Can we have a wiki or a searchable index of hosts offering DirectAdmin free and other goodies?
or at least a pinned thread here on this forum? @AnthonySmith
yes
I would prefer a page on the main site instead of a pinned topic in the forums.
Over time the amount of pinned topics/announcements etc... will probably cover most of the first page.
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
@Asim said: OFFTOPIC: Can we have a wiki or a searchable index of hosts offering DirectAdmin free and other goodies?
or at least a pinned thread here on this forum? @AnthonySmith
yes
I would prefer a page on the main site instead of a pinned topic in the forums.
Over time the amount of pinned topics/announcements etc... will probably cover most of the first page.
@Asim said: OFFTOPIC: Can we have a wiki or a searchable index of hosts offering DirectAdmin free and other goodies?
or at least a pinned thread here on this forum? @AnthonySmith
yes
I would prefer a page on the main site instead of a pinned topic in the forums.
Over time the amount of pinned topics/announcements etc... will probably cover most of the first page.
Are you judging OGF?
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Just wondering if anyone here is running DirectAdmin prerelease binary. There has been a new theme added called Facelift. It looks similar to the existing Sidebar theme but appears to be a replacement for the Standard theme as when viewed on a mobile it changes back to the Standard theme.
@LeonDynamic said:
Just wondering if anyone here is running DirectAdmin prerelease binary. There has been a new theme added called Facelift. It looks similar to the existing Sidebar theme but appears to be a replacement for the Standard theme as when viewed on a mobile it changes back to the Standard theme.
@LeonDynamic said:
Just wondering if anyone here is running DirectAdmin prerelease binary. There has been a new theme added called Facelift. It looks similar to the existing Sidebar theme but appears to be a replacement for the Standard theme as when viewed on a mobile it changes back to the Standard theme.
Haven’t seen any documentation from DA on it. Been playing around with it and works across all user levels - Admin, Reseller and User. Although I think the user level is better with the modern icon layout, just for familiarity of users (ex cPanel).
@LeonDynamic said:
Just wondering if anyone here is running DirectAdmin prerelease binary. There has been a new theme added called Facelift. It looks similar to the existing Sidebar theme but appears to be a replacement for the Standard theme as when viewed on a mobile it changes back to the Standard theme.
@Lee said: Any interest from larger cloud providers, DO, Vultr, Hetzner or others in them offering licences?
I really wanna know what's stopping them. I asked OVH once and well, we know how that goes. I think they started offering it for dedicated customers only.
@SmallWeb said: I really wanna know what's stopping them.
Licensing is always the answer. I suspect they would only offer it if it can be installed and activated without any up-front cost to them. A bit like cPanel and Plesk. DO and Vultr offer both but cPanel is a trial period, Although Vultr does offer cPanel licensing. Plesk is limited to x amount of accounts and you can upgrade.
Going to guess that DA wants x up-front or activating a licence triggers a cost that bigger providers are less interested in. They would want a trial or restricted licence that the user then has to upgrade and pay directly to DA.
@SmallWeb said: I really wanna know what's stopping them.
Licensing is always the answer. I suspect they would only offer it if it can be installed and activated without any up-front cost to them. A bit like cPanel and Plesk. DO and Vultr offer both but cPanel is a trial period, Although Vultr does offer cPanel licensing. Plesk is limited to x amount of accounts and you can upgrade.
Going to guess that DA wants x up-front or activating a licence triggers a cost that bigger providers are less interested in. They would want a trial or restricted licence that the user then has to upgrade and pay directly to DA.
Atleast from the past experience, DA supports PAYG model.
Any interest from larger cloud providers, DO, Vultr, Hetzner or others in them offering licences?
There has been some, but nothing really came of it. I have to be honest that lack of motivation on this end was part of it. Flying under the radar is our biggest strength right now. Development is more important than high volume & ultra-low margins, and creating a better product is more important to us. When I say lack of motivation, I don't mean laziness. I just mean we would rather create hype by improving the product, rather than attempting every "strategic alliance" we can get. We are kind of like the antimatter of venture capitalists.
On that note, it's been a long time since the last release but I can say we have ~100 items (features/fixes/etc) since the last one. Within the next day or two I plan to post some more fun stuff about that.
I was listening about a clothing brand recently that doesn't do influencer promotion and just likes to work on the brand and have it spread organically word of mouth rather than in your face deals with companies. It makes sense.
Congrats on your second and third post in advance.
How easy would it be to offer Horde in DA? I find it much better at grouping emails by subject (for deletion) and prefer it over Roundcube.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural. It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
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Started to use DA with a purpose today by migrating a live cPanel site.
Going well so far.
One thing that I noticed was the lack of a mod_security interface, to check loaded rules and the log etc.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
Don't use WordPress, and you probably don't need to worry about this.
"It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington
Having used an oscommerce derivative, amongst others for well over a decade, I can say that mod_sec is worthwhile even without a WP instance. As it happens, the migrated site is a WP one, 'cos Cloudlinux/cPanel caused major grief with max. memory availability (after 2 days of messing with settings). ;-)
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
Yeah, osCommerce is fucking garbage too.
"It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington
I understand the username now. "Wordpress Super Sucks".
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
"WordPress Super Sucks"
Have you tried turning it off and on again?Wholesome Shitposter Syndrome
Only a few people know the acronym.
"It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington
Won't Shitposters Stop?
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
How is JetBackup fairing?
Anyone had any problems with it?
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
@smtalk How is it possible with DA to run a single hidden master dns setup where all of my DA servers sync dns zones to it?
Recommend: BuyVM|TierHive|Prometeus| NameCrane
@MikePT @SmallWeb Suppose I have a DA reseller hosting account from some hosting company but I already have my own remote dns running via multi server setup & want to utilize the reseller account with that remote DNS, is it possible currently with DirectAdmin?
Recommend: BuyVM|TierHive|Prometeus| NameCrane
Let me know if you do find a solution 'cause I'd be interested too
Initial thoughts:
Haven't really taken a deep dive into things that aren't standard.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
Sites hosted on DA load fast but when you access the control panel it is so slow. @MikePT the filemanager of LA shared does not load. When I click the icon, nothing. When I open in new tab, after the loading bar gets full, it just reopens the home screen.
When you have a reseller, why should you setup your/run own dns instead of just pointing the reseller ns to your own? Is it actually easy to do?
And most hardest part is indeed selling the hosting.
Sorry for the trouble. It now loaded.
For my use case, I have a mix of reseller/vps so consistent NS would be nice.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
I don’t think the multi server setup of DA can separate dns records between users/resellers. I know you could with cPanel DNS only as I believe Fran set it up with BuyShared.
Do you have lots of directories and content inside? I think that server has 'directory size count' enabled, that's why it's slow
Just try turning it off and it should become fast then.
Yep, that's the issue, I'll have this sorted today!
It's there now in pre-release.
Great news! Thanks.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
How to disable ticket system in DA?
Recommend: BuyVM|TierHive|Prometeus| NameCrane
I usually disable the menu items through "Customize Evolution Skin".
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
Reseller Access Level -> Manage Tickets -> Ticket System Settings -> Ticket System Enabled checkbox
I'm trying to copy that text but I get
": "o61,21v8298,142t:urlDecodinstead. It's the modsecurity log viewer. Does it happen to any of you?Yep. Change the theme from Default to any other and you will be able to copy the text just fine.
A few more years, and it will be a finished product...
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
That’s a bit harsh. The development DA has had over the last year to 18 months has been phenomenal. The features and tweaks added for both users and admins has shown that they are interested in listening to feedback about their product but most importantly act on it and implement change.
All true, I agree.
If they bought out cPanel and offered it using DirectAdmin pricing model (along with their price-rise protection/guarantee), which one would you rather pick?
My point was they are still not there yet. Not working with the default theme - did I get that right?
It looks like something that should have been tested more thoroughly.
But I agree the remark was a bit harsh - it's better to concentrate on the positives and provide constructive feedback.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Honestly, at this point I would choose DA. Previously used cPanel extensively across all my servers and had never used DA prior to price increase mid 2019.
Since then, I have changed all my servers to DA. Yes it’s been a learning curve, sometimes quite steep but I now feel more comfortable using and maintaining DA.
nvm
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
IMO cPanel would need pretty much a re-write or a complete change in direction for me to use it now. Even if it was the same cost.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
OFFTOPIC: Can we have a wiki or a searchable index of hosts offering DirectAdmin free and other goodies?
or at least a pinned thread here on this forum? @AnthonySmith
yes
https://inceptionhosting.com
Please do not use the PM system here for Inception Hosting support issues.
I would prefer a page on the main site instead of a pinned topic in the forums.
Over time the amount of pinned topics/announcements etc... will probably cover most of the first page.
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Are you judging OGF?
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“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Just wondering if anyone here is running DirectAdmin prerelease binary. There has been a new theme added called Facelift. It looks similar to the existing Sidebar theme but appears to be a replacement for the Standard theme as when viewed on a mobile it changes back to the Standard theme.
That's pretty neat.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
Woot. Finally looks 2021!
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Very Cool ?
Haven’t seen any documentation from DA on it. Been playing around with it and works across all user levels - Admin, Reseller and User. Although I think the user level is better with the modern icon layout, just for familiarity of users (ex cPanel).
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Any interest from larger cloud providers, DO, Vultr, Hetzner or others in them offering licences?
I really wanna know what's stopping them. I asked OVH once and well, we know how that goes. I think they started offering it for dedicated customers only.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
Licensing is always the answer. I suspect they would only offer it if it can be installed and activated without any up-front cost to them. A bit like cPanel and Plesk. DO and Vultr offer both but cPanel is a trial period, Although Vultr does offer cPanel licensing. Plesk is limited to x amount of accounts and you can upgrade.
Going to guess that DA wants x up-front or activating a licence triggers a cost that bigger providers are less interested in. They would want a trial or restricted licence that the user then has to upgrade and pay directly to DA.
Atleast from the past experience, DA supports PAYG model.
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Storage VPS | LiteSpeed Powered Web Hosting + SSH access | Switcher Special |
There has been some, but nothing really came of it. I have to be honest that lack of motivation on this end was part of it. Flying under the radar is our biggest strength right now. Development is more important than high volume & ultra-low margins, and creating a better product is more important to us. When I say lack of motivation, I don't mean laziness. I just mean we would rather create hype by improving the product, rather than attempting every "strategic alliance" we can get. We are kind of like the antimatter of venture capitalists.
On that note, it's been a long time since the last release but I can say we have ~100 items (features/fixes/etc) since the last one. Within the next day or two I plan to post some more fun stuff about that.
P.S. Congrats on my first post.
I was listening about a clothing brand recently that doesn't do influencer promotion and just likes to work on the brand and have it spread organically word of mouth rather than in your face deals with companies. It makes sense.
Congrats on your second and third post in advance.
Michael from DragonWebHost & OnePoundEmail
How easy would it be to offer Horde in DA? I find it much better at grouping emails by subject (for deletion) and prefer it over Roundcube.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).