@tenpera said:
I've been enjoying 8G vps, no problem at all for 10euro.
Kindly share the YABS for the VPS.
Thanks!
Sometimes i feel yabs is way over rated and people use yabs as a gold standard regardless of the use case.
A low score on one area or all may still be fine with a different usecase (like idling). Or hosting a simple site...
if the use case is idling, then it does not really matter if GB6 score is 78 or 278 or 1278.
However it does matter if the use case is wordpress site.
@carlin0 said:
In my opinion they should take away the provider tag here as well
+1
People complaining about the cheap service when they willingly paid for it without checking the reviews first; now even want the host tag to be removed cause their service sucks? You must be out of your mind.
If the host is a scam, took your money and never gave you a server, or ran away or terminated your account without valid reason, then I understand taking away the provider tag (or just ban them). If you want premium service, pay premium. Go with AWS, Oracle cloud, or Azure. Don't loiter around LES/LET and go with random no-bodies offering bargain basement prices.
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@tenpera said:
I've been enjoying 8G vps, no problem at all for 10euro.
Kindly share the YABS for the VPS.
Thanks!
Sometimes i feel yabs is way over rated and people use yabs as a gold standard regardless of the use case.
A low score on one area or all may still be fine with a different usecase (like idling). Or hosting a simple site...
if the use case is idling, then it does not really matter if GB6 score is 78 or 278 or 1278.
**However it does matter if the use case is wordpress site. **
Why would you want to run a WordPress site on an oversold node with no minimum performance guarantees, and where the offer mentioned
Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering.
and went on to say " Potato is better".
There is low end, there is frugal, there is cheap, and then there is plain silly.
if the use case is idling, then it does not really matter if GB6 score is 78 or 278 or 1278.
However it does matter if the use case is wordpress site.
Why would you want to run a WordPress site on an oversold node with no minimum performance guarantees, and where the offer mentioned
Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering.
and went on to say " Potato is better".
There is low end, there is frugal, there is cheap, and then there is plain silly.
I agree 100% with you. And, I did NOT go with €10 VPS that is "worse than potato" (provider's own words)
Here is GB5 score my low end VPS and working perfectly for my use case
Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
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Test | Value
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Single Core | 1198
Multi Core | 1189
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/22439169
@tenpera said:
I've been enjoying 8G vps, no problem at all for 10euro.
Kindly share the YABS for the VPS.
Thanks!
Sometimes i feel yabs is way over rated and people use yabs as a gold standard regardless of the use case.
A low score on one area or all may still be fine with a different usecase (like idling). Or hosting a simple site...
if the use case is idling, then it does not really matter if GB6 score is 78 or 278 or 1278.
However it does matter if the use case is wordpress site.
Again it's subjective. A low volume site would still be OK. Heck I have used micro dedis (or similar) from nat4vps and it seemed to give 2 digit gb scored and worked wonders for my non idling usecase.
Maybe you just have something against this provider who has been clear with the performance experience from get go..
@tenpera said:
I've been enjoying 8G vps, no problem at all for 10euro.
Kindly share the YABS for the VPS.
Thanks!
Sometimes i feel yabs is way over rated and people use yabs as a gold standard regardless of the use case.
A low score on one area or all may still be fine with a different usecase (like idling). Or hosting a simple site...
if the use case is idling, then it does not really matter if GB6 score is 78 or 278 or 1278.
However it does matter if the use case is wordpress site.
Again it's subjective. A low volume site would still be OK. Heck I have used micro dedis (or similar) from nat4vps and it seemed to give 2 digit gb scored and worked wonders for my non idling usecase.
Maybe you just have something against this provider who has been clear with the performance experience from get go..
Or maybe not. I am probably not awake...
Cheers
Other then idling (which is the proper use case for these low end deals) running a wordpress is not recommended as most often people will setup apache, mysql (without optimization), php and then install wordpress. Some even go as far as to install a free hosting panel to make it easy for them, not realizing that all of these are taking their performance away.
Low end servers mean:
no sql database (unless you know how to change the config for low ram usage)
No apache. Nginx is acceptble sometimes
No nodejs. They require a lot of CPU cycles (atleast when i was building an app on them). You can prebuild them on another server and serve the app using nginx as that will run in the user's browser.
Good for running low end python based scripts
Good for using it as a static file host (if you dont mind the delay in loading the content)
Good for use as your second backup device
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This sounds more like a lover’s tiff… since very few other reasons could justify so much grief for a service not taken.
Probably @c1vhosting might have stood her up on a date or something and now all she can do is rant.
I would argue that nginx is about low-end. It is just more resource efficient and therefore is a wise choice even for high-end scenarios when you have to serve as much requests per second as possible.
No matter what the server is, if I don't need to support Apache-only web applications, I would go with nginx.
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@vyas said:
This sounds more like a lover’s tiff… since very few other reasons could justify so much grief for a service not taken.
Probably @c1vhosting might have stood her up on a date or something and now all she can do is rant.
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@localhost said: @somik essentially the user screws up without optimization/ tuning... or user unneeded services and then moan about how shitt the performance is...
Well I mean I would understand it if the user is new on the forum, saw a good deal and grabbed it up. But he is from October 2022. If he still don't know the type of performance many super low end hosts offers here, I dunno what to say. I mean there is a 8.7K comments long thread of compalins about VirMach...
I would argue that nginx is about low-end. It is just more resource efficient and therefore is a wise choice even for high-end scenarios when you have to serve as much requests per second as possible.
No matter what the server is, if I don't need to support Apache-only web applications, I would go with nginx.
That I agree with. I use nginx on my dedicated servers as well. Only time I would use apache is if i need apache tomcat server for application deployments.
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Nothing wrong with low-low-end offers. However, there are a few things that are problematic with C1V, some of which are of a linguistic nature:
A low-low-end offer is not a flash sale. A flash sale is to offer a product with a large discount in price, not performance. C1V offers products that are "you get what you pay for" or worse.
A restock is not adding more VMs in an existing node, a restock is adding more nodes. C1V presents overselling as restocking.
A datacenter is not a garage. C1V presents their garage as a high end datacenter and the company as multi-person entity (which, while theoretically possible, is in practice a one-man show)
Limiting CPU performance based on any linear or non-linear function, is not AI. C1V presents idiotic CPU throttling techniques as sophisticated technology.
And other examples like playing with words, for example:
"Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering."
Where it should read:
"Don't order this server if you expect ̶h̶i̶g̶h̶ normal performance as this is a low-end offering."
And there are very similar cheap "marketing" techniques and lies and signs of arrogance in many threads, and the whole thing has become comical.
At the end of the day, it's a free market but it's easy to understand why so many people are frustrated with C1V who feel that are being fooled or mislead
Now a few more things for kids like C1V to consider before entering in this business (hello Captain Obvious)
Downtime is unaccepted even the service is free. Uptime has nothing to do with the price, but with the very fact that is a service.
Low end offers are not bad or "cheap' services. Low end offers are targeting people with knowledge and experience to setup stable and fault tolerant systems without needing any support.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
@somik said: If you want premium service, pay premium. Go with AWS, Oracle cloud, or Azure. Don't loiter around LES/LET and go with random no-bodies offering bargain basement prices.
That's a strawman argument I am willing to challenge anytime.
People at LES/LET don't look for premium service - we are looking to pay as little as possible for a DECENT (decent != premium) service. And in most cases, with some common sense, we succeed.
Not all LES/LET hosts are completely terrible just because we don't overpay for service. In fact, we find here many decent, responsible hosting companies who know what they are doing and do it quite well.
And then there are some completely incompetent, often lying charlatans, unable to deliver even semi-usable service. What you're doing in your failed arguments is equating LES/LET with those charlatans instead of the decent low-cost hosts we use on a daily basis. Please don't do that.
@somik said: If you want premium service, pay premium. Go with AWS, Oracle cloud, or Azure. Don't loiter around LES/LET and go with random no-bodies offering bargain basement prices.
That's a strawman argument I am willing to challenge anytime.
People at LES/LET don't look for premium service - we are looking to pay as little as possible for a DECENT (decent != premium) service. And in most cases, with some common sense, we succeed.
Not all LES/LET hosts are completely terrible just because we don't overpay for service.
In fact, we find here many decent, responsible hosting companies who know what they are doing and do it quite well.
Here is one example of premium network from a low end provider
Location Latency Loss DL Speed UP Speed Server
Amsterdam, NL 8.00 ms 0.0% 6614.78 Mbps 8717.90 Mbps Melbicom - Amsterdam
London, UK 8.15 ms 0.0% 6911.66 Mbps 8811.76 Mbps M247 Ltd - London
Paris, FR 8.46 ms N/A 6378.50 Mbps 4547.36 Mbps ORANGE FRANCE - Paris
Manchester, UK 9.03 ms N/A 5963.46 Mbps 8183.64 Mbps Vodafone UK - Manchester
Eygelshoen, NL 9.76 ms 0.0% 5989.33 Mbps 2900.63 Mbps SkyLink Data Center BV - Eygelshoven
Dublin, IE 11.32 ms 0.0% 6481.77 Mbps 6457.92 Mbps Three Ireland - Dublin
And then there are some completely incompetent, often lying charlatans, unable to deliver even semi-usable service.
What you're doing in your failed arguments is equating LES/LET with those charlatans instead of the decent low-cost hosts we use on a daily basis. Please don't do that.
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@somik said: If you want premium service, pay premium. Go with AWS, Oracle cloud, or Azure. Don't loiter around LES/LET and go with random no-bodies offering bargain basement prices.
That's a strawman argument I am willing to challenge anytime.
People at LES/LET don't look for premium service - we are looking to pay as little as possible for a DECENT (decent != premium) service. And in most cases, with some common sense, we succeed.
Not all LES/LET hosts are completely terrible just because we don't overpay for service. In fact, we find here many decent, responsible hosting companies who know what they are doing and do it quite well.
And then there are some completely incompetent, often lying charlatans, unable to deliver even semi-usable service. What you're doing in your failed arguments is equating LES/LET with those charlatans instead of the decent low-cost hosts we use on a daily basis. Please don't do that.
I am not saying all LES/LET hosts are bad. What I am saying is that c1v's prices are bargain basement, along with his services. He is not charging you the same as other hosts and offering you bad service. He is providing you bad service at low low prices.
There aren't any "decent" host at these prices that offers better service.
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@somik said: There aren't any "decent" host at these prices that offers better service.
Do you even care about what you actually get for your money, or are the numbers listed in the offers the only factors that interest you?
You can get more out of a semi-decent 1-2 GB memory VPS than C1V specs VPS, so...? There are PLENTY of hosts that offer way way better value for our money.
This has nothing to do with our unrealistic expectations of a premium service for peanuts, but rather about hosts' responsible approach toward the service they are selling.
I hate to compare hosts, as everyone has their own uniqueness, but still, for the sake of argument... without cherry picking (that's most likely not even the best deal I got among 40 & something VPSes I have) 4GB memory VPS with nearly 100% uptime, instant ticket response (those things have some value too, right?) ... and those resources for around $13,30/year:
Big numbers mean nothing if the service is so bad that you can't utilize them. They're just words on paper for people who don't know any better. But we are around long enough to know it better, right?
Even shitty 8gb memory abomination from Awmbilisim for $14,00/year perform better than my both back then more expensive C1V VPSes did - and that's not really a compliment. I would not recomment that one to anyone as well.
There aren't any "decent" host at these prices that offers better service.
I believe, for example , my $15 / year service with 1vCore Ryzen 7950x VPS is much better than €10 VPS. And that VPS is strong enough to be running Windows RDP and SQL Server database engine.
Overall plus points, much better computing power (GB5 score), stability, data rate, and online ticket based support system.
And this VPS is “worse than potato” provider’s own words.
Personally I don’t care if the data center is a premium or economy data center, but if provider claims leading and premium data center, he should be able to back his claim.
I had $15/year VPS from c1v that was pretty powerful and “deal” on paper
3 vCore
3.2 GB memory
1 TB HDD storage
And I managed to install Windows Server OS on it. It was working pretty good, I even shared screenshots.
But then stability factor kicked in.
All of sudden the data rate will go down to crawling speed that c1v blamed on ddos attacks and he accepted that this can (and will) occur at random times.
Power issues, where days of services were lost in 2023 end. I never got email for service extension for time lost.
Good thing is that he “allowed” me to transfer the service to someone who was looking for cheap storage with Windows RDP.
The service was transferred and buyer requested me not to reload linux os again (c1v offers limited os templates) as he was not sure how much time and effort will be needed to install Windows OS again.
I left the Windows OS as it is.
And it is, probably, among rare VPS on that $15 / year 1 TB storage offer that is being used as Windows RDP.
Lack of stability and proper online support were my reasons of letting it go.
Thank you, c1v, for allowing to me transfer that VPS service to another buyer.
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Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
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@somik said: There aren't any "decent" host at these prices that offers better service.
Do you even care about what you actually get for your money, or are the numbers listed in the offers the only factors that interest you?
Not really. I usually play with them on the first 1 to 2 days and then leave them to idle. I had a yearly server that I did not know existed till I got the renewal reminder...
He is providing you bad service at low low prices.
I agree with your statement 100%
Glad you see what I said. I never said he is good. He may be as bad as (if not worse then) the Roman basement host we had in a few years back. But his prices are also that low as well. Cant expect much if the prices dont even cover the disk/bandwidth...
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Especially this last point baffles me. Several well respected members of this community, such as @Neoon , have indicated to have services at C1v that they're satisfied with. So it seems that c1vhosting does know how to provide 'proper' hosting services. However, he deliberately chooses to provide dreadful performance for his 'flash' sale package. But why? Flash sales, like you rightfully said, aren't a free pass to provide piss-poor performance. Neither is the 'get out of jail, free card' line 'Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering.'. So what's the whole idea behind those 'flash' sales? Get more clients on paper to keep his mom shareholders happy?
Moreover, in the end this will only hurt your reputation; no way in hell that I will buy another service offering from c1vhosting nor will I recommend it to anyone, based on the experience I had with my flash sale package.
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@Freek said: Especially this last point baffles me.
Yeah, most probably there is some pressure from mom shareholders to fix sales especially since they are removed from OGF.
Of course such sales actually hurt their reputation, but don't forget that hurting own reputation has become a masterful art of C1V. Maybe due to inexperience, due to arrogance, or both combined.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Especially this last point baffles me. Several well respected members of this community, such as @Neoon , have indicated to have services at C1v that they're satisfied with. So it seems that c1vhosting does know how to provide 'proper' hosting services. However, he deliberately chooses to provide dreadful performance for his 'flash' sale package. But why? Flash sales, like you rightfully said, aren't a free pass to provide piss-poor performance. Neither is the 'get out of jail, free card' line 'Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering.'. So what's the whole idea behind those 'flash' sales? Get more clients on paper to keep his mom shareholders happy?
Moreover, in the end this will only hurt your reputation; no way in hell that I will buy another service offering from c1vhosting nor will I recommend it to anyone, based on the experience I had with my flash sale package.
They are still earning money, so minor hit to reputation don't matter. When the offer is good, people will buy regardless. Well, next time you'll know better then to buy a flash sale
Anyway, it could also be that the server he got for flash sale is lousy or he is overselling the flash sale server to make enough money to match is regular server and so on.
As for disclaimer, all are "get out of jail" free card. Google has a disclaimer that they have the right to sell your data and I still see people use google without worry.
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if the use case is idling, then it does not really matter if GB6 score is 78 or 278 or 1278.
However it does matter if the use case is wordpress site.
People complaining about the cheap service when they willingly paid for it without checking the reviews first; now even want the host tag to be removed cause their service sucks? You must be out of your mind.
If the host is a scam, took your money and never gave you a server, or ran away or terminated your account without valid reason, then I understand taking away the provider tag (or just ban them). If you want premium service, pay premium. Go with AWS, Oracle cloud, or Azure. Don't loiter around LES/LET and go with random no-bodies offering bargain basement prices.
Why would you want to run a WordPress site on an oversold node with no minimum performance guarantees, and where the offer mentioned
and went on to say " Potato is better".
There is low end, there is frugal, there is cheap, and then there is plain silly.
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I agree 100% with you. And, I did NOT go with €10 VPS that is "worse than potato" (provider's own words)
Here is GB5 score my low end VPS and working perfectly for my use case
Again it's subjective. A low volume site would still be OK. Heck I have used micro dedis (or similar) from nat4vps and it seemed to give 2 digit gb scored and worked wonders for my non idling usecase.
Maybe you just have something against this provider who has been clear with the performance experience from get go..
Or maybe not. I am probably not awake...
Cheers
Other then idling (which is the proper use case for these low end deals) running a wordpress is not recommended as most often people will setup apache, mysql (without optimization), php and then install wordpress. Some even go as far as to install a free hosting panel to make it easy for them, not realizing that all of these are taking their performance away.
Low end servers mean:
This sounds more like a lover’s tiff… since very few other reasons could justify so much grief for a service not taken.
Probably
@c1vhosting might have stood her up on a date or something and now all she can do is rant.
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@somik essentially the user screws up without optimization/ tuning... or user unneeded services and then moan about how shitt the performance is...
I would argue that nginx is about low-end. It is just more resource efficient and therefore is a wise choice even for high-end scenarios when you have to serve as much requests per second as possible.
No matter what the server is, if I don't need to support Apache-only web applications, I would go with nginx.
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Well I mean I would understand it if the user is new on the forum, saw a good deal and grabbed it up. But he is from
October 2022. If he still don't know the type of performance many super low end hosts offers here, I dunno what to say. I mean there is a 8.7K comments long thread of compalins about VirMach...That I agree with. I use nginx on my dedicated servers as well. Only time I would use apache is if i need apache tomcat server for application deployments.
What about Caddy (@yoursunny ) or lighttpd ?
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That would explain why HR keeps reminding of DEI
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Nothing wrong with low-low-end offers. However, there are a few things that are problematic with C1V, some of which are of a linguistic nature:
And other examples like playing with words, for example:
"Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering."
Where it should read:
"Don't order this server if you expect ̶h̶i̶g̶h̶ normal performance as this is a low-end offering."
And there are very similar cheap "marketing" techniques and lies and signs of arrogance in many threads, and the whole thing has become comical.
At the end of the day, it's a free market but it's easy to understand why so many people are frustrated with C1V who feel that are being fooled or mislead
Now a few more things for kids like C1V to consider before entering in this business (hello Captain Obvious)
That's a strawman argument I am willing to challenge anytime.
People at LES/LET don't look for premium service - we are looking to pay as little as possible for a DECENT (decent != premium) service. And in most cases, with some common sense, we succeed.
Not all LES/LET hosts are completely terrible just because we don't overpay for service. In fact, we find here many decent, responsible hosting companies who know what they are doing and do it quite well.
And then there are some completely incompetent, often lying charlatans, unable to deliver even semi-usable service. What you're doing in your failed arguments is equating LES/LET with those charlatans instead of the decent low-cost hosts we use on a daily basis. Please don't do that.
The minimum requirement for SQL Server Express Edition for Linux (free for even commercial usage) requires
Based on this c1v €10 VPS should be ok. Well it is not.
However with most other low end providers, it is not an issue.
PS: SQL Server Express Database Server for Windows has lower memory requirements.
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Here is one example of premium network from a low end provider
OVH and NIC.it must be lying then
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
I am not saying all LES/LET hosts are bad. What I am saying is that c1v's prices are bargain basement, along with his services. He is not charging you the same as other hosts and offering you bad service. He is providing you bad service at low low prices.
There aren't any "decent" host at these prices that offers better service.
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Do you even care about what you actually get for your money, or are the numbers listed in the offers the only factors that interest you?
You can get more out of a semi-decent 1-2 GB memory VPS than C1V specs VPS, so...? There are PLENTY of hosts that offer way way better value for our money.
This has nothing to do with our unrealistic expectations of a premium service for peanuts, but rather about hosts' responsible approach toward the service they are selling.
I hate to compare hosts, as everyone has their own uniqueness, but still, for the sake of argument... without cherry picking (that's most likely not even the best deal I got among 40 & something VPSes I have) 4GB memory VPS with nearly 100% uptime, instant ticket response (those things have some value too, right?) ... and those resources for around $13,30/year:
Big numbers mean nothing if the service is so bad that you can't utilize them. They're just words on paper for people who don't know any better. But we are around long enough to know it better, right?
Even shitty 8gb memory abomination from Awmbilisim for $14,00/year perform better than my both back then more expensive C1V VPSes did - and that's not really a compliment. I would not recomment that one to anyone as well.
I believe, for example , my $15 / year service with 1vCore Ryzen 7950x VPS is much better than €10 VPS. And that VPS is strong enough to be running Windows RDP and SQL Server database engine.
Overall plus points, much better computing power (GB5 score), stability, data rate, and online ticket based support system.
And this VPS is “worse than potato” provider’s own words.
Personally I don’t care if the data center is a premium or economy data center, but if provider claims leading and premium data center, he should be able to back his claim.
I had $15/year VPS from c1v that was pretty powerful and “deal” on paper
3 vCore
3.2 GB memory
1 TB HDD storage
And I managed to install Windows Server OS on it. It was working pretty good, I even shared screenshots.
But then stability factor kicked in.
All of sudden the data rate will go down to crawling speed that c1v blamed on ddos attacks and he accepted that this can (and will) occur at random times.
Power issues, where days of services were lost in 2023 end. I never got email for service extension for time lost.
Good thing is that he “allowed” me to transfer the service to someone who was looking for cheap storage with Windows RDP.
The service was transferred and buyer requested me not to reload linux os again (c1v offers limited os templates) as he was not sure how much time and effort will be needed to install Windows OS again.
I left the Windows OS as it is.
And it is, probably, among rare VPS on that $15 / year 1 TB storage offer that is being used as Windows RDP.
Lack of stability and proper online support were my reasons of letting it go.
Thank you, c1v, for allowing to me transfer that VPS service to another buyer.
I agree with your statement 100%
Tier-3 infrastructure design, no downtime, notice a reboot.
Past-future-now old man.
Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.
DATA CENTER TIERS | 1, 2, 3 and 4
https://constructandcommission.com/data-center-uptime-tiers-explained/
MS SQL Server 2019 Express Edition running on $1.35/month VPS
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so, reboot by design too?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Reboot versus autoboot
blog archives
Tier-3™
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Not really. I usually play with them on the first 1 to 2 days and then leave them to idle. I had a yearly server that I did not know existed till I got the renewal reminder...
Glad you see what I said. I never said he is good. He may be as bad as (if not worse then) the Roman basement host we had in a few years back. But his prices are also that low as well. Cant expect much if the prices dont even cover the disk/bandwidth...
Tier-3™ Rebooot™ with max Doowntime™
It's like buying a beautiful package filled with excrement
@itsdeadjim the nail on the head, couldn't agree more. Excellent write up!
Especially this last point baffles me. Several well respected members of this community, such as @Neoon , have indicated to have services at C1v that they're satisfied with. So it seems that c1vhosting does know how to provide 'proper' hosting services. However, he deliberately chooses to provide dreadful performance for his 'flash' sale package. But why? Flash sales, like you rightfully said, aren't a free pass to provide piss-poor performance. Neither is the 'get out of jail, free card' line 'Don't order this server if you expect high performance as this is a low-end offering.'. So what's the whole idea behind those 'flash' sales? Get more clients on paper to keep his mom shareholders happy?
Moreover, in the end this will only hurt your reputation; no way in hell that I will buy another service offering from c1vhosting nor will I recommend it to anyone, based on the experience I had with my flash sale package.
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Yeah, most probably there is some pressure from mom shareholders to fix sales especially since they are removed from OGF.
Of course such sales actually hurt their reputation, but don't forget that hurting own reputation has become a masterful art of C1V. Maybe due to inexperience, due to arrogance, or both combined.
They are still earning money, so minor hit to reputation don't matter. When the offer is good, people will buy regardless. Well, next time you'll know better then to buy a flash sale
Anyway, it could also be that the server he got for flash sale is lousy or he is overselling the flash sale server to make enough money to match is regular server and so on.
As for disclaimer, all are "get out of jail" free card. Google has a disclaimer that they have the right to sell your data and I still see people use google without worry.
You're at it again.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
It wisnae me! A big boy done it and ran away. || NVMe2G for life! until death (the end is nigh).
so much for a "Tier 3" lol.
c1vhosting is not a clown, it's the entire circus.
Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit.
Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
This performance is beyond words.
How much downtime is allowed for a Tier-4 (negative four) data center?
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Tier 4 is 27 minutes downtime in a year
VPS with “do not expect ANY performance” … 27 minutes downtime in a day
nope, he was upgrading it again