@willie said:
By the way I asked about the company location because some potential users are avoiding US companies for privacy reasons.
Yes and that's why I am wondering if I can maybe migrate locations away from US? But does it matter if it's a US company?
It boils down to integrity and trust IMO. Hell, despite everything, I expect a US company to be in a better position to protect free speech and privacy than any EU-regulated company/location. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
@willie said:
By the way I asked about the company location because some potential users are avoiding US companies for privacy reasons.
Yes and that's why I am wondering if I can maybe migrate locations away from US? But does it matter if it's a US company?
It boils down to integrity and trust IMO. Hell, despite everything, I expect a US company to be in a better position to protect free speech and privacy than any EU-regulated company/location. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
Oh I'm curious why you think that?
I think it does have a lot to do with the provider and I trust @Francisco and I know frantech/BuyVM has hosted some controversial sites before. But I do worry about the political instability in the US and further overreach and oversight by government authorities against US citizens.
Also it's my understanding that it can be advantageous to have your company outside of the US because then you can reject legal claims that aren't made in your countries jurisdiction. I seem to remember a VPN company leveraging this fact and being based in a smaller country that was harder to throw lawsuits at. There are lots of frivolous legal threats and copyright claims made in the US and often there's pressure to do something about it.
@willie said:
By the way I asked about the company location because some potential users are avoiding US companies for privacy reasons.
Yes and that's why I am wondering if I can maybe migrate locations away from US? But does it matter if it's a US company?
It boils down to integrity and trust IMO. Hell, despite everything, I expect a US company to be in a better position to protect free speech and privacy than any EU-regulated company/location. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
A year ago, I'd have agreed with you. These days, not so sure.
The specific concern was that a US company would be obliged to honor requests from the US government to turn over people's email. I don't know how much it helps, but I don't think Canada is in the EU.
@willie said:
The specific concern was that a US company would be obliged to honor requests from the US government to turn over people's email. I don't know how much it helps, but I don't think Canada is in the EU.
Presumably, a Canadian and an EU company would be obliged to honor requests from the Canadian or an EU government to turn over people's email.
@willie said:
The specific concern was that a US company would be obliged to honor requests from the US government to turn over people's email. I don't know how much it helps, but I don't think Canada is in the EU.
Presumably, a Canadian and an EU company would be obliged to honor requests from the Canadian or an EU government to turn over people's email.
This is true. However, neither of them ( currently ) appear to be as wanton in their deployment of them and attempting to hide them with national security letters and such. The US is no longer rational and shouldn't be trusted by anybody.
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Yes and that's why I am wondering if I can maybe migrate locations away from US? But does it matter if it's a US company?
It boils down to integrity and trust IMO. Hell, despite everything, I expect a US company to be in a better position to protect free speech and privacy than any EU-regulated company/location. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
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Oh I'm curious why you think that?
I think it does have a lot to do with the provider and I trust @Francisco and I know frantech/BuyVM has hosted some controversial sites before. But I do worry about the political instability in the US and further overreach and oversight by government authorities against US citizens.
Also it's my understanding that it can be advantageous to have your company outside of the US because then you can reject legal claims that aren't made in your countries jurisdiction. I seem to remember a VPN company leveraging this fact and being based in a smaller country that was harder to throw lawsuits at. There are lots of frivolous legal threats and copyright claims made in the US and often there's pressure to do something about it.
A year ago, I'd have agreed with you. These days, not so sure.
The specific concern was that a US company would be obliged to honor requests from the US government to turn over people's email. I don't know how much it helps, but I don't think Canada is in the EU.
Presumably, a Canadian and an EU company would be obliged to honor requests from the Canadian or an EU government to turn over people's email.
Which is the EU company? Do you mean the data center?
This is true. However, neither of them ( currently ) appear to be as wanton in their deployment of them and attempting to hide them with national security letters and such. The US is no longer rational and shouldn't be trusted by anybody.
Edit: typo