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  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    Chicken? I want chicken.

  • @imok said:
    Chicken? I want chicken.

    Chicken and rice with a hole?

  • @host_c said:

    @NullSir said: I started F5, finally I don't have to stay up late

    If you take down the forum, @AuroraZero will kick your ass =) =)

    Damned right I will don't make send out the phone spiders!!

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @wankel said:

    @imok said:
    Chicken? I want chicken.

    Chicken and rice with a hole?

    Weird hole right? I'm going to tell them to not make holes to my food.

  • @imok said:

    @wankel said:

    @imok said:
    Chicken? I want chicken.

    Chicken and rice with a hole?

    Weird hole right? I'm going to tell them to not make holes to my food.

    I think the hole is to put sauce in?

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @wankel said:

    @imok said:

    @wankel said:

    @imok said:
    Chicken? I want chicken.

    Chicken and rice with a hole?

    Weird hole right? I'm going to tell them to not make holes to my food.

    I think the hole is to put sauce in?

    Never. We don't do that.

  • Fellas,

    We will halt all sales for the next 24 hours due to the fact that the 3 newly published /48 ( that get divided into /64 for you ) are only partially visible on global BGP

    Plus we have an issue with the old 2A0D:8140::/48 that our ISP accidentally removed from the filters rather then adding the new ones. - this is a more pressing issue =)

    We will be back tomorrow, but first we need to fix our stuff :3 <3

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c fix my stuffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • edited December 2024

    @host_c said:
    We will halt all sales for the next 24 hours due to the fact that the 3 newly published /48 ( that get divided into /64 for you ) are only partially visible on global BGP

    Plus we have an issue with the old 2A0D:8140::/48 that our ISP accidentally removed from the filters rather then adding the new ones. - this is a more pressing issue =)

    We support providers that treat IPv6 as an essential service rather than secondary to IPv4.
    It is honorable to halt sales when IPv6 isn't working.

    We accept Karma donations for the last flan. 🍮 affbrr

  • AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr

    Self rdns change would be cool.

  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited December 2024

    I will quote @imok

    @imok said:
    I'm worried now. These deals are unsustainable right?

    How much time is @host_c going to survive?

    Don't leave too early please.

    Rest assured that the "Marketing Department" has enough funds to sustain these crazy deals.

    If you read the beginning of of this thread, I have stated that we have other measures of income also.

    With that said, we will make some more =) , on IPV6 only as that does lower the expense on this.

    We tried to implement NAT64, but it did not go as expected , so we dropped it and focus on more important stuff.

    We managed to fix the IPV6 problems ( almost all ) since last night so sales will resume shortly.

    We need a little time-off by the way, so see you shortly.

    HOST-C

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said:
    I will quote imok

    @imok said:
    I'm worried now. These deals are unsustainable right?

    How much time is @host_c going to survive?

    Don't leave too early please.

    Rest assured that the "Marketing Department" has enough funds to sustain these crazy deals.

    If you read the beginning of of this thread, I have stated that we have other measures of income also.

    With that said, we will make some more =) , on IPV6 only as that does lower the expense on this.

    We tried to implement NAT64, but it did not go as expected , so we dropped it and focus on more important stuff.

    We managed to fix the IPV6 problems ( almost all ) since last night so sales will resume shortly.

    We need a little time-off by the way, so see you shortly.

    HOST-C

    LETS GO FAT32 SPECIAL DEAL

    食之无味 弃之可惜 - Too arduous to relish, too wasteful to discard.

  • @host_c said: Plus we have an issue with the old 2A0D:8140::/48 that our ISP accidentally removed from the filters rather then adding the new ones. - this is a more pressing issue

    What's the current status of this more pressing issue? :P

  • edited December 2024

    @host_c said:
    I will quote @imok

    @imok said:
    I'm worried now. These deals are unsustainable right?

    How much time is @host_c going to survive?

    Don't leave too early please.

    Rest assured that the "Marketing Department" has enough funds to sustain these crazy deals.

    If you read the beginning of of this thread, I have stated that we have other measures of income also.

    With that said, we will make some more =) , on IPV6 only as that does lower the expense on this.

    We tried to implement NAT64, but it did not go as expected , so we dropped it and focus on more important stuff.

    We managed to fix the IPV6 problems ( almost all ) since last night so sales will resume shortly.

    We need a little time-off by the way, so see you shortly.

    HOST-C

    So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

  • @gritty said: So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

    yes

    @Mumbly said: What's the current status of this more pressing issue? :P

    if you do not have connectivity by now, open a ticket, this goes for any of you reading this.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said:

    @gritty said: So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

    yes

    @Mumbly said: What's the current status of this more pressing issue? :P

    if you do not have connectivity by now, open a ticket, this goes for any of you reading this.

    I have multiple vps ipv6

    ping ipv6.google.com
    PING ipv6.google.com(sof02s48-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4017:811::200e)) 56 data bytes

    Do I need to open a work order as well?

  • edited December 2024

    @NullSir said:

    @host_c said:

    @gritty said: So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

    yes

    @Mumbly said: What's the current status of this more pressing issue? :P

    if you do not have connectivity by now, open a ticket, this goes for any of you reading this.

    I have multiple vps ipv6

    ping ipv6.google.com
    PING ipv6.google.com(sof02s48-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4017:811::200e)) 56 data bytes

    Do I need to open a work order as well?

    What is the output of ip a?

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  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited December 2024

    @NullSir said:

    @host_c said:

    @gritty said: So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

    yes

    @Mumbly said: What's the current status of this more pressing issue? :P

    if you do not have connectivity by now, open a ticket, this goes for any of you reading this.

    I have multiple vps ipv6

    ping ipv6.google.com
    PING ipv6.google.com(sof02s48-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4017:811::200e)) 56 data bytes

    Do I need to open a work order as well?

    please do,1 ticket, and we will take it from there.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said:

    @gritty said: So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

    yes

    Tonight? or Now? ;)

  • edited December 2024

    @lukast__ said:

    @NullSir said:

    @host_c said:

    @gritty said: So, will the crazy IPV6 storage VPS deal make a comeback? :p

    yes

    @Mumbly said: What's the current status of this more pressing issue? :P

    if you do not have connectivity by now, open a ticket, this goes for any of you reading this.

    I have multiple vps ipv6

    ping ipv6.google.com
    PING ipv6.google.com(sof02s48-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4017:811::200e)) 56 data bytes

    Do I need to open a work order as well?

    What is the output of ip a?

    ticket

  • open a ticket so we can fix these, this is not the place.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said: open a ticket so we can fix these, this is not the place.

    Thank you for those that already did :3

    we will issue an official statement via e-mail once we sort all out.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • While this is a bit off-topic, I have a question to those who know more about IPv6 than I do. I could reach the server from outside (via ssh and ICMP ping) over IPv6, however from inside the VPS I couldn't reach any IPv6.
    The output from ip a was the following:

    2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
        link/ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
        inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/24 brd XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.255 scope global eth0 // allocated IPv4
           valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
        inet6 2a0d:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX::XX/64 scope global                     // allocated IPv6
           valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
        inet6 fe80::XXXX:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX/64 scope link                     // link-local address
           valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
        inet6 2a0d:XXXX:0:4b:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX/64 scope global dynamic mngtmpaddr noprefixroute
           valid_lft XXXXXXXsec preferred_lft XXXXXXsec
        inet6 2a0d:XXXX:0:125:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX/64 scope global dynamic mngtmpaddr noprefixroute
           valid_lft XXXXXXXsec preferred_lft XXXXXXsec
    

    I have no idea where the last two addresses (on some of my VPSes from @host_c there were even more) come from, I have set net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf, net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra and net.ipv6.conf.all.use_tempaddr all to 0 and DHCP was disabled.
    When I deleted the two addresses with ip a del ADDRESS dev eth0, IPv6 worked from inside the VPS, but after a few seconds those addresses reappeared.
    But after some time (I think around 11 PM GMT+1), the addresses weren't added anymore and IPv6 works since then.
    (This is no criticism in any way, I'm just interested in how that happened.)
    Now my question is: where did these addresses come from and could I have disabled that?
    If this is too off-topic, mods can maybe move this post to the cest pit.

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  • The RA announcement were Meade wrongly by us. In attempt to preserve old configuration and the new one for /64 allocation

    Check your e-mail, we already announced that we will modify all services to /64 from /127

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • Since you push IPv6 automagically through Router Advertisements for most(?) customers, why not just simply provide the "new IPv6 settings" in the Control Panel (under "Assigned IPs"), for the few customers clever enough to manage IPv6 manually?

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • @host_c said:
    The RA announcement were Meade wrongly by us. In attempt to preserve old configuration and the new one for /64 allocation

    Check your e-mail, we already announced that we will modify all services to /64 from /127

    When will the IPv6 network update be implemented?

  • @Shot² said:
    Since you push IPv6 automagically through Router Advertisements for most(?) customers, why not just simply provide the "new IPv6 settings" in the Control Panel (under "Assigned IPs"), for the few customers clever enough to manage IPv6 manually?

    these will be available there.

    but we have to update ~500+ services, I doubt 50 will set the up manually.

    @zizi said:

    @host_c said:
    The RA announcement were Meade wrongly by us. In attempt to preserve old configuration and the new one for /64 allocation

    Check your e-mail, we already announced that we will modify all services to /64 from /127

    When will the IPv6 network update be implemented?

    It has already started. It will take some time .....

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited December 2024

    As a pain i the but this is for most of you, we wished tu finalize these ASAP, so we can all enjoy quiet holidays and other “stuff” :3

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said:
    As a pain i the but this is for most of you, we wished tu finalize these ASAP, so we can all enjoy quiet holidays and other “stuff” :3

    Keep up to good work man I for one appreciate it

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @lukast__ said: While this is a bit off-topic, I have a question to those who know more about IPv6 than I do. I could reach the server from outside (via ssh and ICMP ping) over IPv6, however from inside the VPS I couldn't reach any IPv6.

    Is this fixed? I've been there as well. They resolved it by manually whitelisting my subnet.

  • @Mumbly said:

    @lukast__ said: While this is a bit off-topic, I have a question to those who know more about IPv6 than I do. I could reach the server from outside (via ssh and ICMP ping) over IPv6, however from inside the VPS I couldn't reach any IPv6.

    Is this fixed? I've been there as well. They resolved it by manually whitelisting my subnet.

    For me it works since around 11 PM GMT+1 yesterday, but I didn't need to open a ticket.

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  • @host_c you fixering the Yeti's crapola today?

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027
    edited December 2024

    @AuroraZero said:
    @host_c you fixering the Yeti's crapola today?

    Please open a ticket, forum is NOT* a valid place to ask for a support.

    /s

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @Jab said:

    @AuroraZero said:
    @host_c you fixering the Yeti's crapola today?

    Please open a ticket, forum is NOT* a valid place to ask for a support.

    /s

    Flagging

  • @AuroraZero said: @host_c you fixering the Yeti's crapola today?

    Have no clue, I left STU to fix as much as he can. I am out of town.
    He is going over services 1 by 1

    I will join him tomorrow on this.

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said:

    @AuroraZero said: @host_c you fixering the Yeti's crapola today?

    Have no clue, I left STU to fix as much as he can. I am out of town.
    He is going over services 1 by 1

    I will join him tomorrow on this.

    Tell STU that you will sell him to the Yeti if he fails!!! :tongue:

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @AuroraZero said: Tell STU that you will sell him to the Yeti if he fails!!! :tongue:

    told him.

    Now, going back to tickets, only a few hundred services remaining to fix. :3

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • edited December 2024

    For us IPv6 nerds (who manage IPv6 manually): should we power-off the server before or after opening a ticket? it's not clear in the mail.
    Is there a time limit? What happens if we don't open a ticket by then? Service cancelled?

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited December 2024

    @Shot² said:
    For us IPv6 nerds (who manage IPv6 manually): should we power-off the server before or after opening a ticket? it's not clear in the mail.
    Is there a time limit? What happens if we don't open a ticket by then? Service cancelled?

    Nerds receive a ticket from us with the settings to set up =) ( "nerds" are identified by having custom install, 99% of the cases this is true, and most of them opened a ticket already )

    All usual folks, we will set the new ip in cloud-init and issue a power-off / power on - they need to do nothing. =)

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c thanks for the /64
    Any quick quides to enable ipv6 on AlmaLinux 9?
    Seems when I installed via iso only ipv4 is enabled by default

    Thanks

  • @localhost said:
    @host_c thanks for the /64
    Any quick quides to enable ipv6 on AlmaLinux 9?
    Seems when I installed via iso only ipv4 is enabled by default

    Thanks

    nmtui and off you go.

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  • @Brueggus said:

    @localhost said:
    @host_c thanks for the /64
    Any quick quides to enable ipv6 on AlmaLinux 9?
    Seems when I installed via iso only ipv4 is enabled by default

    Thanks

    nmtui and off you go.

    Is there a way to use nmtui which would setup ipv6 like a dhcp does for ipv4? For me it is asking me to enter the details manually. Thnx

  • @localhost said:

    @Brueggus said:

    @localhost said:
    @host_c thanks for the /64
    Any quick quides to enable ipv6 on AlmaLinux 9?
    Seems when I installed via iso only ipv4 is enabled by default

    Thanks

    nmtui and off you go.

    Is there a way to use nmtui which would setup ipv6 like a dhcp does for ipv4? For me it is asking me to enter the details manually. Thnx

    You can set IPv6 to "automatic" and see what happens... But it depends on the network whether it works or not.

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  • @Brueggus said:

    @localhost said:

    @Brueggus said:

    @localhost said:
    @host_c thanks for the /64
    Any quick quides to enable ipv6 on AlmaLinux 9?
    Seems when I installed via iso only ipv4 is enabled by default

    Thanks

    nmtui and off you go.

    Is there a way to use nmtui which would setup ipv6 like a dhcp does for ipv4? For me it is asking me to enter the details manually. Thnx

    You can set IPv6 to "automatic" and see what happens... But it depends on the network whether it works or not.

    DHCP will do nothing on our infrastructure.

    There is no such service enabled.

    Ip addresses are allocated / service by a provisioning module ( that started working as it should , hence the posibility to allocate a whole /64 rather rather then 1 /127 )

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @Shot² said: For us IPv6 nerds (who manage IPv6 manually):

    I am happy to report, we have a lot of 'nerds', much more then I anticipated. I am proud of you all :3

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • I might be wrong, but for a single IPv6 address, the subnet mask should be /128 right?

  • This incident should definitely be recorded in HOST-C's history.

  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited December 2024

    @tmntwitw said: I might be wrong, but for a single IPv6 address, the subnet mask should be /128 right?

    not in our setup, this whole shit started ~1 year back.

    Let me give you all an insight.

    We used IP Manager 2 from ModulesGarden, at that was and is awesome for IPV4 but not for IPV6, it could not allocate a whole /64 ( from a /48 or any )

    So we did a temporary work around, ( these usually bit you in the ass or in other sensitive places) by setting a /64 on each subnet we have, allocating a single IP from that /64 to customer ( as that worked in the module ) and wait out the update to IPMANAGER 3.

    Update came ~2 months ago, but by that time we had give out a bunch of manually assigned /64's.
    Each of these had :1 set up on the router and usually :2,3,4 for the customer - yeah, I know, lame, but it is what it is.

    We ditched IP Manager 2 ~2 months ago ( that was fun as it was a ton of work so you all do not loos the already assigned ip's at the moment we selected disabled module).

    And by the tests we did over the past 1 month we manage to implement the correct way to allocate a /64 from a /48 set up on each IPV4 subnet. ( all IPV4 subnets are separated at layer 2, each one has it's own broadcast domain and separate IPV6 GW + firewall stuff and other )

    So when our ISP took out by mistake a /48 we used before for the old setup, I said to myself that this is as any good moment to do the implementation.

    And here we are, modifying all to standard so we can ditch the " open a tiket for IPV6 /64 " and also this give us the following flexibility wise:

    • allocate multiple /64 IPV6 at product check-out
    • create IPV6 only services ( save a few bucks / year )
    • create IPV6 only products that can select to allocate one IPV4 address if desired by the customer at check-out

    I know we are not winning loyalty points stopping your services, but we had 2 options on the table:

    A. send out 500-600 E-mails so customers set up the new IPV6 setup or do a power off power on to auto apply the stings - all this when they read the email. - most probably this would taken 1 Decade =)
    B. kill the old setup, we do all the work + some of you that have "nerd" setups - this will take ~1 week by our estimates.

    I chose option B, and if you want to blame someone, blame me. :)
    I really did not want to drag with us into 2025 an "improvisation" but rather start the year clean and focus on the more important stuff.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • edited December 2024

    Sorry but I am still a bit confused.

    From your previous offers:

    1 Dedicated IPV6 IP, /64 upon request via ticket

    As I did not request for a /64 previously, will my "1 Dedicated IPv6 IP" continue to work?

    Or does it has to be replaced with a /64?

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