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  • rootroot OG
    edited December 2024

    @host_c - upon trying your services so far I am happy. Thank you.

    Since you seem to take a seat left available by Marius of HostSolutions, I can't stop but wonder if your services are also DMCA ignore. This was a great selling point for HostSolutions back in the days. As many know around here, Romania is a great country for torrenting due to its geographical position, network quality, and corrupted politics. So the question is: will you ignore DMCA complaints?

    Another important question: will you accept (or did you already accept) traffic mirroring to Romanian Intelligence Service? They will knock on your door for traffic mirroring as your business evolves (if they did not do so already). This is important on one hand for freedom of speech of customers, but on the other hand if you accept it they will not "bother" you with "legalities". I wish to know your point of view, at least now, even if I can understand changing views later :kissing_wink:

  • @SocksAreComfortable said:

    @host_c said:

    @host_c said: If we ran the 5TB and 10Tb all year long, where is the promotion then? it would be a normal sale. It would contradict it's purpose.

    Ah yes,

    Since these 2 product were from the same "promotion window", the 5 TB can be upgraded to the 10 TB deal.

    5TB Pioneer -> 10TB Nimitz.

    All this via a ticket. Service is modified on the fly, no reinstall needed.

    Interesting...I have the 5TB, which in reality is plenty for my use-case, but how much is the 10TB in case I wanted to do this?

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  • @root said: Since you seem to take a seat left available by Marius of HostSolutions, I can't stop but wonder if your services are also DMCA ignore. This was a great selling point for HostSolutions back in the days. As many know around here, Romania is a great country for torrenting due to its geographical position, network quality, and corrupted politics. So the question is: will you ignore DMCA complaints?

    First post in this thread (and they have always been very clear about this):

    I wish to underline to everyone that we are no DMCA ignore, that term is pretty widely interpreted as PORN, Shady Stuff over the internet and other, some might got this idea as I am from Romania and some of my fella providers endorsed this type of activity in the past or still do, I will gladly disappoint some in this statement. Whatever you publish must follow this rule, whatever you store, that is not our business.

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  • rootroot OG
    edited December 2024

    @lukast__ said:

    @root said: Since you seem to take a seat left available by Marius of HostSolutions, I can't stop but wonder if your services are also DMCA ignore. This was a great selling point for HostSolutions back in the days. As many know around here, Romania is a great country for torrenting due to its geographical position, network quality, and corrupted politics. So the question is: will you ignore DMCA complaints?

    First post in this thread (and they have always been very clear about this):

    Yeah, I did not read properly. My fault. I kept dreaming about that story of HostSolutions reminding me of their failure with storage and Chia criptocurrency impact. I read it, but my brain was in dreams and memories. Thanks for the notice :+1:

  • edited December 2024

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    I have the 5TB

    If you get tired of renewing it, HMU :P. I'm a dum dum who held off because I was just a few months into my prepaid year of 9TB from a different Romanian compatriot and hoped his service would mature and settle if I waited patiently.* Anyway, by the time I realized it wasn't going to happen, the 5TB & 10TB plans were no longer available. 4TB is unfortunately too small, and 20TB and non-promo VPS are beyond my budget.

    It sounds like @host_c is doing things well and also engaging with the community, so I'm also interested in seeing his service continue developing.

    *It did not, and he also accidentally deleted my complete VPS container, making it the third or fourth time my entire VPS was completed lost in less than 8 months for reasons entirely outside of my control. Other ridiculous things happened too - there's a thread about it on OGF.

  • @user123 said:

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    I have the 5TB

    If you get tired of renewing it, HMU :P. I'm a dum dum who held off because I was just a few months into my prepaid year of 9TB from a different Romanian compatriot and hoped his service would mature and settle if I waited patiently.* Anyway, by the time I realized it wasn't going to happen, the 5TB & 10TB plans were no longer available. 4TB is unfortunately too small, and 20TB and non-promo VPS are beyond my budget.

    It sounds like @host_c is doing things well and also engaging with the community, so I'm also interested in seeing his service continue developing.

    *It did not, and he also accidentally deleted my complete VPS container, making it the third or fourth time my entire VPS was completed lost in less than 8 months for reasons entirely outside of my control. Other ridiculous things happened too - there's a thread about it on OGF.

    Honestly, when I got it I did not realize how good of a deal it was, but the longer I have it, the more likely I am to keep it now :P If a 4TB was cheaper I might swap down to that, maaaaaybe even a 3TB, but 5TB is a nice sweet spot for my situation (backing up 2TB of data but with versioning). I already do a primary backup to Backblaze for it which of course costs more per TB (though also scales based on actual usage instead of pre-allocating a certain amount), but I prefer having a backup location that I have root access to as well, so the VPS-style + storage drive is a great solution.

    Also, random aside, does anyone know if the boot drives are in a raid configuration at all, or have any other form of redundancy?

  • I am here as usual. This has become my vacation cave

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @host_c said:

    @NullSir said: Feeling good

    Deal,

    Now just wait till I get my hand on that /24 .....

    It will be in BGP by weekend ( hopefully )

    BGP - Slowest Routing Protocol on the Planet. ( SRP should have been the name ) =) =) =)

    ok, Challenge is on, let me see what we can do....

    New subnet already there or is this unrelated?

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  • officialyy we depleted 2 x /24 durindg these p

    @lukast__ said: New subnet already there or is this unrelated?

    I feel stalked...... =) =) =) =)

    Yapp, that is the one, it will take 24-48h to propagate.

    Geo-Location is a fucking mess on that, US and Switzerland from what I saw. It will take a few weeks to sort it out.

    My agent asked me, is this god? I said to him, do you have something from RO? he said no, then why do you ask? =) =)

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  • @host_c said: Geo-Location is a fucking mess on that, US and Switzerland from what I saw. It will take a few weeks to sort it out.

    good f**king luck my friend, Still sorting stuff from 1996

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @host_c said:
    officialyy we depleted 2 x /24 durindg these p

    @lukast__ said: New subnet already there or is this unrelated?

    I feel stalked...... =) =) =) =)

    Yapp, that is the one, it will take 24-48h to propagate.

    Geo-Location is a fucking mess on that, US and Switzerland from what I saw. It will take a few weeks to sort it out.

    My agent asked me, is this god? I said to him, do you have something from RO? he said no, then why do you ask? =) =)

    I checked this first when you said about the new secret location, but was left disappointed 🤣

  • @host_c said: Geo-Location is a fucking mess on that, US and Switzerland from what I saw. It will take a few weeks to sort it out.

    Just FYI: the geofeed for the new subnet is "https://www.host-c.com/geofeed.txt", but I think it should be "https://www.host-c.com/geofeed.csv" because the former returns 404.

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  • @root said:
    @host_c - upon trying your services so far I am happy. Thank you.

    Since you seem to take a seat left available by Marius of HostSolutions, I can't stop but wonder if your services are also DMCA ignore. This was a great selling point for HostSolutions back in the days. As many know around here, Romania is a great country for torrenting due to its geographical position, network quality, and corrupted politics. So the question is: will you ignore DMCA complaints?

    Another important question: will you accept (or did you already accept) traffic mirroring to Romanian Intelligence Service? They will knock on your door for traffic mirroring as your business evolves (if they did not do so already). This is important on one hand for freedom of speech of customers, but on the other hand if you accept it they will not "bother" you with "legalities". I wish to know your point of view, at least now, even if I can understand changing views later :kissing_wink:

    I doubt I took over whatever Marius left, other than RO HOST = SHIT

    Junior Marius did not help either in this image.

    None of them realized that this is not to their advantage.

    SRI ( Romanian Intelligence Service ) ( RO version of FBI ) will approach you if you host shit ( as any gov agency will approach any provider in any country if thatis the case ) , hence the statement in the start of the discussion, it is not our mission to provide such services.

    Users cough in malicious activities that were banned from our network are welcome to share their experience here.

    Assumption that we wish to fill a shit hole is wrong, I leave that to others that do not realize doing that will only put yourself, your buisness and ultimately your customers to the ground.

    Free speech is not a synonym for Ignore all and malicious activities are welcomed.

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  • @host_c said:

    @root said:
    @host_c - upon trying your services so far I am happy. Thank you.

    Since you seem to take a seat left available by Marius of HostSolutions, I can't stop but wonder if your services are also DMCA ignore. This was a great selling point for HostSolutions back in the days. As many know around here, Romania is a great country for torrenting due to its geographical position, network quality, and corrupted politics. So the question is: will you ignore DMCA complaints?

    Another important question: will you accept (or did you already accept) traffic mirroring to Romanian Intelligence Service? They will knock on your door for traffic mirroring as your business evolves (if they did not do so already). This is important on one hand for freedom of speech of customers, but on the other hand if you accept it they will not "bother" you with "legalities". I wish to know your point of view, at least now, even if I can understand changing views later :kissing_wink:

    I doubt I took over whatever Marius left, other than RO HOST = SHIT

    Junior Marius did not help either in this image.

    None of them realized that this is not to their advantage.

    SRI ( Romanian Intelligence Service ) ( RO version of FBI ) will approach you if you host shit ( as any gov agency will approach any provider in any country if thatis the case ) , hence the statement in the start of the discussion, it is not our mission to provide such services.

    Users cough in malicious activities that were banned from our network are welcome to share their experience here.

    Assumption that we wish to fill a shit hole is wrong, I leave that to others that do not realize doing that will only put yourself, your buisness and ultimately your customers to the ground.

    Free speech is not a synonym for Ignore all and malicious activities are welcomed.

    I just store Linux ISOs on 5tb nothing to see here

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  • @lukast__ said:

    @host_c said: Geo-Location is a fucking mess on that, US and Switzerland from what I saw. It will take a few weeks to sort it out.

    Just FYI: the geofeed for the new subnet is "https://www.host-c.com/geofeed.txt", but I think it should be "https://www.host-c.com/geofeed.csv" because the former returns 404.

    Noted, and forwarded, THX, I am exhausted from the past days fixing the /64 auto allocation, it took me a lot of hours.

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  • edited December 2024

    @host_c said:
    Free speech is not a synonym for Ignore all and malicious activities are welcomed.

    It sounded like @root was specifically asking about DMCA, since that relates only to US IP protection/copyright stuff (aka Linux ISOs), not other malicious activities.

  • @AuroraZero said: I just store Linux ISOs on 5tb nothing to see here

    none asked :3

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  • @user123 said: It sounded like @root was specifically asking about DMCA, since that relates only to US IP protection/copyright stuff (aka Linux ISOs), not other malicious activities.

    DMCA is treated different in the EU, bu it is present,

    You need a pretty big amount of complains to get in trouble, that might change in RO, as GOV ran out of cash, so for 2025 this might seem to them a good source of income.

    Atho I wish to see how a small provider that has assets under a fe $$$K usd can pay Millions in Copyright cases =) .

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  • Thanks for the answer @host_c - I simply wanted to know your stance on these things. It is not that I am an abuser or something, don't get me wrong. I was simply curious about your stance as a provider.

    Meanwhile I highly recommend @host_c so far due to performance of services, openness in replies and transparency using pictures.

  • @root said:
    Thanks for the answer @host_c - I simply wanted to know your stance on these things. It is not that I am an abuser or something, don't get me wrong. I was simply curious about your stance as a provider.

    Meanwhile I highly recommend @host_c so far due to performance of services, openness in replies and transparency using pictures.

    I did not. :3

    Thank you for the question, as this way, my answer is more precise.

    So, any of you on the BF thread got a service? please either open a ticket or reply here if the IPV6 routing does not work correctly.

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  • @host_c said:

    @root said:
    Thanks for the answer @host_c - I simply wanted to know your stance on these things. It is not that I am an abuser or something, don't get me wrong. I was simply curious about your stance as a provider.

    Meanwhile I highly recommend @host_c so far due to performance of services, openness in replies and transparency using pictures.

    I did not. :3

    Thank you for the question, as this way, my answer is more precise.

    So, any of you on the BF thread got a service? please either open a ticket or reply here if the IPV6 routing does not work correctly.

    Mine don't work but, it might be because I don't have any? :tongue:

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  • @AuroraZero said:

    Mine don't work but, it might be because I don't have any? :tongue:

    What's your excuse for that? :P

  • @Mumbly said:

    @AuroraZero said:

    Mine don't work but, it might be because I don't have any? :tongue:

    What's your excuse for that? :P

    I have other needs ATM and we have a backdoor deal brewing

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  • edited December 2024

    @AuroraZero said:
    I have other needs ATM and we have a backdoor deal brewing

    I don't think I've come across that euphemism before. Bravo!

  • @AuroraZero

    Here?

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  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited December 2024

    everyone went to sleep?

    Wrong thread =)

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  • I am everywhere and no where, I am the beginning and the end

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  • @AuroraZero said:
    I am everywhere and no where, I am the beginning and the end

    And now you have become death, destroyer of worlds.

  • Once you try a host-c storage deal, you know. No drama, BS, even runs windows fine, and no one mining shitcoin or running a train on the hypervisor... to the point of people stalking the ASN waiting for new deals.

    I feel bad taking one of the three but couldn't resist another machine... At least I have another storage machine + UptimeKuma instance (original purpose)

    Thanks @host_c for a very uneventful hosting experience - my favorite kind.

  • @SocksAreComfortable said:
    Honestly, when I got it I did not realize how good of a deal it was, but the longer I have it, the more likely I am to keep it now :P If a 4TB was cheaper I might swap down to that

    Same here... it's unlikely that any future 4TB deal might be cheaper than the 5TB special (~USD61/yr, with extra 2GB add-on).
    So I'll have to live with 1TB of /dev/sdb remaining unpartitioned and of no use (boo-hoo-hoo). :p

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • will always do some crazy stuff, but yes, at that price / TB, only if someone finds cociu's drives and sends them to us.

    we have some NETAPP shelves around, so even 4 TB disks will do. =)

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  • edited December 2024

    @Kris said:
    This has sort of been my go to since... forever, just swap: ext2 -> 3 -> 4 -> xfs.

    Oh I meant to ask -- why xfs over ext4? My filesystem knowledge is not great, tbh.

  • Xfs is a more modern film system, for todays work loads

    In the teste we did, and we tested all, it was a clear winner

    Especially handling large files, resiliency on hard reset, paralel read and write performance, IO handling, and low impact on cpu and ram.

    Since I am already in bed I will just quote this

    Best Use Cases:
    1. Large File Storage: XFS excels in environments where large files are common, such as video editing and large database applications.
    2. High-performance Applications: It is optimized for high-performance computing and I/O-intensive tasks, making it suitable for enterprise applications.
    3. Scalability: XFS can handle massive amounts of data and is designed to scale efficiently, which is beneficial for large storage systems.
    4. File Systems with High Throughput: If your application requires high throughput and low latency, XFS is a strong candidate.
    5. Multi-threaded Environments: XFS handles concurrent access well, making it ideal for multi-threaded applications and workloads.

    Advantages:

    • Excellent performance with large files and high I/O operations.
    • Dynamic allocation of inodes, which allows for more efficient space management.
    • Supports online resizing, enabling administrators to expand the file system without downtime.

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    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • @host_c said:
    Xfs is a more modern film system, for todays work loads

    In the teste we did, and we tested all, it was a clear winner

    Especially handling large files, resiliency on hard reset, paralel read and write performance, IO handling, and low impact on cpu and ram.

    Since I am already in bed I will just quote this

    Best Use Cases:
    1. Large File Storage: XFS excels in environments where large files are common, such as video editing and large database applications.
    2. High-performance Applications: It is optimized for high-performance computing and I/O-intensive tasks, making it suitable for enterprise applications.
    3. Scalability: XFS can handle massive amounts of data and is designed to scale efficiently, which is beneficial for large storage systems.
    4. File Systems with High Throughput: If your application requires high throughput and low latency, XFS is a strong candidate.
    5. Multi-threaded Environments: XFS handles concurrent access well, making it ideal for multi-threaded applications and workloads.

    Advantages:

    • Excellent performance with large files and high I/O operations.
    • Dynamic allocation of inodes, which allows for more efficient space management.
    • Supports online resizing, enabling administrators to expand the file system without downtime.

    Noted. Will go reformat my 5tb drive :tongue:

  • @host_c You are supposed to be in bed mister!!!

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  • edited December 2024

    @SocksAreComfortable said: Oh I meant to ask -- why xfs over ext4? My filesystem knowledge is not great, tbh.

    Mostly parallel I/O over ext4 so large files, etc. will transfer faster. In some situations ext4 can serve smaller files faster. In most cases with large files and nowadays xfs has the upperhand. Also should something go wrong, xfs has a degree of built-in online self-healing, where as with ext4 in the same situation, you'll need a boot CD or fsck.

    EDIT: Just realized @host_c already gave a much better complete answer than I did, whoops.

  • edited December 2024

    @Kris said:
    Mostly parallel I/O over ext4 so large files, etc. will transfer faster. In some situations ext4 can serve smaller files faster. In most cases with large files and nowadays xfs has the upperhand. Also should something go wrong, xfs has a degree of built-in online self-healing, where as with ext4 in the same situation, you'll need a boot CD or fsck.

    EDIT: Just realized @host_c already gave a much better complete answer than I did, whoops.

    I already got it reformatted! Even updated my /etc/fstab (which helped me learn that changing filesystem would change the UUID...guessing it's whenever it reformats).

    NAME    FSTYPE  FSVER LABEL  UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
    sda                                                                              
    └─sda1  xfs                  5d3651c8-3c48-40a6-a429-2c1af829ff25    4.8T     1% /storage
    sdb                                                                              
    ├─sdb1  ext4    1.0          84a58396-4a46-48f9-a4e6-1a0b1dfd14c4     17G     9% /
    ├─sdb14                                                                          
    └─sdb15 vfat    FAT16        7B7C-64F9                             112.1M     9% /boot/efi
    sr0     iso9660       cidata 2024-11-15-02-54-12-00                              
    
  • edited December 2024

    There's no one-size-fit-all solution when it comes to filesystems -- different user have different needs, different FSes have different pros/cons; one should always give some thought, rather than going for the purported "best" or "most popular". (FYI: vanilla BTRFS also works great for /sdb :bleep_bloop: )

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • @Kris said: xfs has a degree of built-in online self-healing, where as with ext4 in the same situation, you'll need a boot CD or fsck.

    I Will underline this, THX @Kris , should have started with this.

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  • edited December 2024

    Let's take a guess at what crazy deal host-c will offer today. :p ipv6 only / 2TB/4TB deals?

  • Hmmmmm might , ah, sorry, for sure =)

    Just keep an eye on the BF thread

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  • it is alive!!!

    https://ping.pe/188.119.191.1

    I hate LOVE BGP!

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  • JabJab TOP Member 2027

    CHICKENS?!

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • @Jab said: CHICKENS?!

    soon,

    need to do the usual stuff, filters, vlans, you know, the boring stufff.

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  • @host_c said:

    @Jab said: CHICKENS?!

    soon,

    need to do the usual stuff, filters, vlans, you know, the boring stufff.

    I started F5, finally I don't have to stay up late

  • Host-C has the best chicken!

  • @NullSir said: I started F5, finally I don't have to stay up late

    If you take down the forum, @AuroraZero will kick your ass =) =)

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  • @host_c is the new deal on BF mega thread or this thread?

  • Mega thread ,

    Until that is closed, we will only post there the dealzzzz

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  • It seems like today it won't have to stay up late to get host-c's "chicken" ?

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