@Nubuki said:
Um @Not_Oles I can't seem to be able to modify '/home/nubuki/.cache/'
I think have messed it up while toying with lxc
Running ls with -la flag gives:
Should I send in the cavalry? I could delete the /home/nubuki/.cachedirectory if that's what you want. Or I could change the directory's permissions tonubuki:nubuki`. Or maybe something else? Please tell me what you want?
Oh please delete the directory then
root@fsn ~ # date
Sat Apr 22 07:42:34 PM UTC 2023
root@fsn ~ # rm -r /home/nubuki/.cache
root@fsn ~ #
Wow! Looks like @itsmepaddi is our resident expert on Windows!
I don't know anything about Windows. It's been years since I used it. Nowadays I like Open Source software, but I recognize that many people use Windows because almost everyone else with whom they interact is using Windows.
Thanks for your great PuTTY tutorial @itsmepaddi! ✨💖
@Nubuki said:
Um @Not_Oles I can't seem to be able to modify '/home/nubuki/.cache/'
I think have messed it up while toying with lxc
Running ls with -la flag gives:
Should I send in the cavalry? I could delete the /home/nubuki/.cachedirectory if that's what you want. Or I could change the directory's permissions tonubuki:nubuki`. Or maybe something else? Please tell me what you want?
Oh please delete the directory then
root@fsn ~ # date
Sat Apr 22 07:42:34 PM UTC 2023
root@fsn ~ # rm -r /home/nubuki/.cache
root@fsn ~ #
ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 {user@hostname here} {user}@fsn: qemu-system-x86_64 -display vnc=127.0.0.1:0 {rest of args here} {the 0 after the ip is the display, if you set it to 1 the port becomes 5901, if you set it to 2 it should become to 5902 i think.) vncviewer localhost:5900
Hope this helps for anyone else trying to run a VM with a GUI on MetalVPS!
Cheers!
It didn't take you very long to get all set up! That's super great!
I see the command you used to set up the VM on the server:
{user}@fsn: qemu-system-x86_64 -display vnc=127.0.0.1:0 {rest of args here}
{the 0 after the ip is the display, if you set it to 1 the port becomes 5901, if you set it to 2 it should become to 5902 i think.)
Even though I've done this a few times, I also am unsure whether the port changes in the way you describe. But I bet we are going to find out!
Next, I see the command you used on your local machine to connect to the server:
ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 {user@hostname here}
If you have time, could you please share how you set up the image that qemu booted? I am asking about the part where you say "{rest of args here}" and also what you set up inside the image after launching it with qemu and connecting. Even though what you already have is great, if somebody wants to reproduce exactly what you show in the image, they might need to know a little more about additional steps.
Thanks for putting up your great tutorial! Thanks for using the server! It's wonderful to have you with us!
@Nubuki said:
Um @Not_Oles I can't seem to be able to modify '/home/nubuki/.cache/'
I think have messed it up while toying with lxc
Running ls with -la flag gives:
Should I send in the cavalry? I could delete the /home/nubuki/.cachedirectory if that's what you want. Or I could change the directory's permissions tonubuki:nubuki`. Or maybe something else? Please tell me what you want?
Oh please delete the directory then
root@fsn ~ # date
Sat Apr 22 07:42:34 PM UTC 2023
root@fsn ~ # rm -r /home/nubuki/.cache
root@fsn ~ #
Thanks
Can you reply to my pm 🙂
Right now I am working here in this thread. As soon as I am finished here, I need to work on the public thread over at Nodeseek. After Nodeseek I will look at the PMs. Sincere apologies that I am so slow.
@Nubuki said:
Um @Not_Oles I can't seem to be able to modify '/home/nubuki/.cache/'
I think have messed it up while toying with lxc
Running ls with -la flag gives:
Should I send in the cavalry? I could delete the /home/nubuki/.cachedirectory if that's what you want. Or I could change the directory's permissions tonubuki:nubuki`. Or maybe something else? Please tell me what you want?
Oh please delete the directory then
root@fsn ~ # date
Sat Apr 22 07:42:34 PM UTC 2023
root@fsn ~ # rm -r /home/nubuki/.cache
root@fsn ~ #
Thanks
Can you reply to my pm 🙂
Fine I'll give up
Sorry! I don't understand. What are you giving up? Why? Maybe I can help you better if you kindly provide a few details? Thanks!
Hello
i just accidently lost my old private key, can i change new one?
My new public key one:ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIK6VAWbPU/F5f+BxMc5KXvuUme8heBf0VNQEg2qTerUm eddsa-key-20230423
Thanks
Dino
Somebody asked me a question via PM, and I thought I could put the reply here because it doesn't contain any personal information and because it's an important question. So . . .
How much ram and how much storage can a user use at a time? Just asking so I do not get over the limit or close to it.
This would be a great question to ask in the public thread. You can imagine how the answer would be important for everyone to know.
The answer comes from realizing that different users have different needs. And those different needs occur across different periods of time. Here on MetalVPS we have tools like htop where you can see what's happening. For example, right now, if somebody used 8 cores and 16 GB RAM and a TB of disk (approximately 1/4 of the machine) for a reasonable time, it probably wouldn't disturb anybody else too much. If somebody used half the machine for a little while, it probably wouldn't disturb anybody too much. Maybe it might be a little piggy to take half the machine or even more? But if needed, one could post in the public thread about what he was doing, how long it will take, and why.
Of course, it's always a good idea not to take more than you really need for something you actually are doing.
@dinopotato said:
Hello
i just accidently lost my old private key, can i change new one?
My new public key one:ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIK6VAWbPU/F5f+BxMc5KXvuUme8heBf0VNQEg2qTerUm eddsa-key-20230423
Thanks
Dino
Hi @dinopotato! I added your new key to /home/dinopotato/.ssh/authorized_keys. You can remove your old key yourself if you are sure you do not need it any more. Please let us know if you get in. I want to make sure you can access the server and join the fun! Best wishes! Tom
@Not_Oles said: How much ram and how much storage can a user use at a time?
The answer comes from realizing that different users have different needs. And those different needs occur across different periods of time. Here on MetalVPS we have tools like htop where you can see what's happening. For example, right now, if somebody used 8 cores and 16 GB RAM and a TB of disk (approximately 1/4 of the machine) for a reasonable time, it probably wouldn't disturb anybody else too much. If somebody used half the machine for a little while, it probably wouldn't disturb anybody too much. Maybe it might be a little piggy to take half the machine or even more? But if needed, one could post in the public thread about what he was doing, how long it will take, and why.
Please let me add that, if you have a heavy job, it sometimes might be better to do it directly on the node instead of inside a VM. First, you won't have to pay the virtualization penalty. Second, we all can see the processes, know the details of whatever is happening, and offer help and encouragement.
@dinopotato said:
Hello
i just accidently lost my old private key, can i change new one?
My new public key one:ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIK6VAWbPU/F5f+BxMc5KXvuUme8heBf0VNQEg2qTerUm eddsa-key-20230423
Thanks
Dino
Hi @dinopotato! I added your new key to /home/dinopotato/.ssh/authorized_keys. You can remove your old key yourself if you are sure you do not need it any more. Please let us know if you get in. I want to make sure you can access the server and join the fun! Best wishes! Tom
Hello Tom!
Thanks so much for support, now i can access it and now its working!
I'm having fun with it
Dino
@RtedPro said:
Hi, @Not_Oles Can i get your linux vps, i want to try creating on if qemu kvm VM, i tryed on linux Wine which worked very good, heres my ssh public key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIAdxnYG6YQ7yl/JpMl1v2+NS9fnaf+NiWWyWLsC7PUcg
Whoops! Sorry! It looks like I missed your earlier post!
Since you have a new account here at LES, could you please introduce yourself?
Please tell us a little about yourself, such as who and where you are.
Do you have a website?
Also please include a little about your computer education, experience, and interests.
Additionally, what binaries are you running with Wine?
I look forward to welcoming you on the server! Also, I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time here at LES!
Best wishes!
Tom
Hi @Not_Oles
I am from Slovakia, i have websites but from free websites ,in computer education,experience i know everything a normal person would uh do you mean by interests what do i want or something else.
Uh i do not know what you mean by what binaries are you running with Wine. I think you meaned the version of wine?
and i do not remember the version i runned.
@RtedPro said:
Hi, @Not_Oles Can i get your linux vps, i want to try creating on if qemu kvm VM, i tryed on linux Wine which worked very good, heres my ssh public key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIAdxnYG6YQ7yl/JpMl1v2+NS9fnaf+NiWWyWLsC7PUcg
Whoops! Sorry! It looks like I missed your earlier post!
Since you have a new account here at LES, could you please introduce yourself?
Please tell us a little about yourself, such as who and where you are.
Do you have a website?
Also please include a little about your computer education, experience, and interests.
Additionally, what binaries are you running with Wine?
I look forward to welcoming you on the server! Also, I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time here at LES!
Best wishes!
Tom
Hi @Not_Oles
I am from Slovakia, i have websites but from free websites ,in computer education,experience i know everything a normal person would uh do you mean by interests what do i want or something else.
Uh i do not know what you mean by what binaries are you running with Wine. I think you meaned the version of wine?
and i do not remember the version i runned.
Password access has been disabled. You need your key to log in.
Your password is in a mode 600 file in your home directory.
Your password might be needed later for sudo. But you have not yet been added to the sudo group.
Feel free to change your password.
You have been added to the kvm group.
If you want to make a KVM VPS it is recommended to start with slirp following this tutorial.
Alternatives include setting up proot as described earlier in this thread.
Additional node configuration might be needed for LXC and non-slirp qemu.
Please post your questions and progress reports and tutorials here in this thread. It benefits everyone to help answer everyone else's questions and to learn from everyone else's progress reports and tutorials. So, please post here instead of sending me PMs (except if privacy really is necessary).
Hope you have fun on the server! We are glad you are with us! Best wishes and kindest regards!
ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 {user@hostname here} {user}@fsn: qemu-system-x86_64 -display vnc=127.0.0.1:0 {rest of args here} {the 0 after the ip is the display, if you set it to 1 the port becomes 5901, if you set it to 2 it should become to 5902 i think.) vncviewer localhost:5900
Hope this helps for anyone else trying to run a VM with a GUI on MetalVPS!
Cheers!
It didn't take you very long to get all set up! That's super great!
I see the command you used to set up the VM on the server:
{user}@fsn: qemu-system-x86_64 -display vnc=127.0.0.1:0 {rest of args here}
{the 0 after the ip is the display, if you set it to 1 the port becomes 5901, if you set it to 2 it should become to 5902 i think.)
Even though I've done this a few times, I also am unsure whether the port changes in the way you describe. But I bet we are going to find out!
Next, I see the command you used on your local machine to connect to the server:
ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 {user@hostname here}
If you have time, could you please share how you set up the image that qemu booted? I am asking about the part where you say "{rest of args here}" and also what you set up inside the image after launching it with qemu and connecting. Even though what you already have is great, if somebody wants to reproduce exactly what you show in the image, they might need to know a little more about additional steps.
Thanks for putting up your great tutorial! Thanks for using the server! It's wonderful to have you with us!
Best!
Tom
The command I used was: qemu-system-x86_64 -display vnc=127.0.0.1:0 -machine type=q35,accel=kvm -smp cores=2,threads=2,sockets=1 -m 3192M -hda image.qcow2 -device virtio-net,netdev=vmnic -netdev user,id=vmnic -cdrom debian.iso
image.qcow2 is an 10G image.
debian.iso is well, the debian installation media.
What I set up in the image is a Debian 11 system running with the MATE desktop enviroment, with the terminal I used being kitty.
The system itself didnt take too long to install, just under 3ish minutes.
@Not_Oles said: Please let me add that, if you have a heavy job, it sometimes might be better to do it directly on the node instead of inside a VM. First, you won't have to pay the virtualization penalty. Second, we all can see the processes, know the details of whatever is happening, and offer help and encouragement.
Maybe worth adding that when running directly on the node you can also adjust it's niceness.
Wow! Looks like @itsmepaddi is our resident expert on Windows!
I don't know anything about Windows. It's been years since I used it. Nowadays I like Open Source software, but I recognize that many people use Windows because almost everyone else with whom they interact is using Windows.
Thanks for your great PuTTY tutorial @itsmepaddi! ✨💖
Your welcome!
I have used Windows for a long time already, but I recently learned Linux and thought it's a cool operating system too.
By the way, I have tried installing Windows 10 using QEMU and VNC (with password). The QEMU command is shown on the image.
Oh yeah, I also got remote desktop working on QEMU using QEMU port forwarding.
What I do is just adding the hostfwd option to port-forward connections from the outside of the MetalVPS like this
-net user,hostfwd=tcp::4444-:3389
Where 4444 is the port where QEMU listens to, then it should forward it to where the guest's port (3389). Hope this is helpful.
The next thing I would like to do is trying to install Squid proxy server inside QEMU. Wish me luck!
Back when I had a shared server account I used to use nice(1) a lot. Then, one day, both the server's drives blew up! 💥
The newly rebuilt server was installed with an improved variety of Linux specially tuned for shared hosting. In other words, built-in limits for everything for everybody. Instead of everybody getting great performance at all the various different times when performance was needed by various users, the new system seemed to give slow performance to everybody all the time. The wonderfully nice folks who were running the server increased my performance limits, but everything still seemed super slow all the time.
It's funny, just a few days ago I was looking through some old backups to find a file for a family member. I came across my backup from the server which blew up. Everyone on the server seemed so upset! The provider offered us 6 months credit. I simply reinstalled from my backup and told the provider, "No, thanks!" for the credit. Wow, the double disk drive explosion that happened to that server could have happened to anybody! It probably wasn't the provider's fault at all! Maybe choosing the new, improved, limits everywhere, shared-hosting-focused distro was their fault though. I dunno. I left. Such a shame! Great guys! Good days!
Thanks for pointing out how MetalVPSians still have the opportunity to go fast-as-metal while remaining nice(1)!
Excellent! Looks great! Maybe just saying these few words doesn't sound like praise, but, really, not everybody can do what you have done. So, congrats!
It's been mentioned previously in this thread ( @ehab ) about additional protection for password login by restricting connection to known IP addresses. There's also two factor authentication. Port knocking. Other alternatives. Maybe the simplest protection is to turn your remote desktop off when you are not using it. Haha, perhaps nobody can break in while it's off.
I don't mean to bother you unnecessarily about security, but probably the server is constantly under "attack." It might be a good idea to keep security in mind.
@itsmepaddi said: The next thing I would like to do is trying to install Squid proxy server inside QEMU. Wish me luck!
Best of luck!
By the way, you might be the neighbor who lives furthest away from the server. How is your ping time to the server? Wanna give us a ping and a traceroute or an mtr? Only if you want. And thanks either way!
I guess I should say the usual stuff that I say to new members. Want to introduce yourself? I'm sure everyone would love to hear a little about who and where you are, how you found out about us, your education, your native language, and your experience with Linux. Also, could you please describe more specifically what you want to do on the server? Finally, we need an ed25519 ssh public key to make your account, so it would help if you could post your key. Thanks very much!
Best wishes from New York City and Sonora, Mexico! 🗽🇺🇸🇲🇽🏜️
@Nikitas said:
Hello, @Not_Oles !
I'm a student that wanted to learn about Linux and KVM.
I'd like to get an account
My SSH key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIJDeBFV0G56I4Pj05/G3BCPu658Q3OCS8uN33t/8d84m eddsa-key-20230419
@ExAjiMag said:
Hi! @Not_Oles
I want to learn KVM and Linux
and I want to learn LXC . i want to get an account
My SSH Key : ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIL4cEgOmOktDjKDzg7W1Bp5EFI4OgY8+fNAyKTcKC53P eddsa-key-20230419
Hi Guys! Welcome to LES! Want to share a little more, please, about who and where you are, your Linux experience, and what you want to do with Linux, KVM, and LXC? Thanks! Best wishes! Tom
hello, I'm a student in high school, I live in Indonesia, I'm 14 years old, I'm using linux for 1 month, I want to
running KVM to create a VM, so can I get a free metalvps account?
Thanks again for your renewed request! Please ask three people who know you to write references for you and to email their references to me at the address on my LES profile. It would be helpful if at least one of the references is from a teacher or an administrator at your high school and if another could be from one of your parents. I look forward to reading the references and to provisioning your account soon!
Best wishes and kindest regards,
Tom
Hello @Not_Oles
I want to tell you that I have no references, I apologize profusely
@Nikitas said:
Hello, @Not_Oles !
I'm a student that wanted to learn about Linux and KVM.
I'd like to get an account
My SSH key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIJDeBFV0G56I4Pj05/G3BCPu658Q3OCS8uN33t/8d84m eddsa-key-20230419
@ExAjiMag said:
Hi! @Not_Oles
I want to learn KVM and Linux
and I want to learn LXC . i want to get an account
My SSH Key : ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIL4cEgOmOktDjKDzg7W1Bp5EFI4OgY8+fNAyKTcKC53P eddsa-key-20230419
Hi Guys! Welcome to LES! Want to share a little more, please, about who and where you are, your Linux experience, and what you want to do with Linux, KVM, and LXC? Thanks! Best wishes! Tom
hello, I'm a student in high school, I live in Indonesia, I'm 14 years old, I'm using linux for 1 month, I want to
running KVM to create a VM, so can I get a free metalvps account?
Thanks again for your renewed request! Please ask three people who know you to write references for you and to email their references to me at the address on my LES profile. It would be helpful if at least one of the references is from a teacher or an administrator at your high school and if another could be from one of your parents. I look forward to reading the references and to provisioning your account soon!
Best wishes and kindest regards,
Tom
Hello @Not_Oles
I want to tell you that I have no references, I apologize profusely
Hi @ExAjiMag! Thank you for telling me that you have no references! But now I am confused. How can you verify what you originally said, that you are a high school student, 14 years old, and living in Indonesia? Best wishes! Tom
It's been mentioned previously in this thread ( @ehab ) about additional protection for password login by restricting connection to known IP addresses. There's also two factor authentication. Port knocking. Other alternatives. Maybe the simplest protection is to turn your remote desktop off when you are not using it. Haha, perhaps nobody can break in while it's off.
I don't mean to bother you unnecessarily about security, but probably the server is constantly under "attack." It might be a good idea to keep security in mind.
Thanks to remind me about security! I always turned my QEMU VM off when I'm not using it. I might use another remote desktop alternative such as AnyDesk or Teamviewer.
By the way, you might be the neighbor who lives furthest away from the server. How is your ping time to the server? Wanna give us a ping and a traceroute or an mtr? Only if you want. And thanks either way!
My home network has 20Mbps of internet speed. Using my home network for browsing, watching video, and attending online classes is not a problem for me, except downloading large files sometimes takes hours.
Connecting to MetalVPS using VNC and SSH through my 20Mbps home network also not a problem for me. Here is a screenshot of ping time and a traceroute as you requested.
Thanks for your nice message and the ping and traceroute data. Here's mine. As you can see, your latency and my latency are the same! I am surprised! I would have guessed that yours would be more than mine.
Thanks again! Please let me know any time you need anything on the server! Best of luck with all your projects!
Tom
chronos@penguin:~/servers/hetzner/ex101/debian-20230408$ ping -c 2 fsn.metalvps.com
PING fsn.metalvps.com (88.198.14.252) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from fsn.metalvps.com (88.198.14.252): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=175 ms
64 bytes from fsn.metalvps.com (88.198.14.252): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=173 ms
--- fsn.metalvps.com ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 172.704/173.878/175.052/1.174 ms
chronos@penguin:~/servers/hetzner/ex101/debian-20230408$ traceroute fsn.metalvps.com
traceroute to fsn.metalvps.com (88.198.14.252), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 _gateway.lxd (100.115.92.193) 0.050 ms 0.009 ms 0.007 ms
2 100.115.92.25 (100.115.92.25) 2.687 ms 2.650 ms 2.636 ms
3 192.168.101.1 (192.168.101.1) 2.624 ms 2.614 ms 2.600 ms
4 10.2.5.1 (10.2.5.1) 2.589 ms 2.578 ms 4.400 ms
5 10.116.60.1 (10.116.60.1) 4.400 ms 4.383 ms 4.366 ms
6 10.180.52.160 (10.180.52.160) 17.930 ms 17.114 ms 17.033 ms
7 10.180.52.161 (10.180.52.161) 16.979 ms 18.546 ms 18.385 ms
8 201-174-160-25.transtelco.net (201.174.160.25) 31.452 ms 31.405 ms 31.362 ms
9 201-174-250-38.transtelco.net (201.174.250.38) 25.514 ms 25.496 ms 25.470 ms
10 201-174-251-16.transtelco.net (201.174.251.16) 31.209 ms 31.188 ms 31.071 ms
11 201-174-250-168.transtelco.net (201.174.250.168) 45.082 ms 201-174-251-24.transtelco.net (201.174.251.24) 24.724 ms 24.519 ms
12 ae7.cr7-dal3.ip4.gtt.net (208.116.218.89) 43.637 ms 43.614 ms 42.310 ms
13 ae9.cr6-fra2.ip4.gtt.net (141.136.110.41) 163.691 ms 160.325 ms 160.280 ms
14 ip4.gtt.net (154.14.78.154) 170.396 ms 178.318 ms 178.294 ms
15 core23.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.69) 173.283 ms 173.255 ms 179.519 ms
16 ex9k2.dc13.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.2) 175.338 ms ex9k2.dc13.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.6) 173.165 ms 173.149 ms
17 fsn.metalvps.com (88.198.14.252) 177.988 ms 178.011 ms 177.793 ms
chronos@penguin:~/servers/hetzner/ex101/debian-20230408$
@Nikitas said:
Hello, @Not_Oles !
I'm a student that wanted to learn about Linux and KVM.
I'd like to get an account
My SSH key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIJDeBFV0G56I4Pj05/G3BCPu658Q3OCS8uN33t/8d84m eddsa-key-20230419
@ExAjiMag said:
Hi! @Not_Oles
I want to learn KVM and Linux
and I want to learn LXC . i want to get an account
My SSH Key : ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIL4cEgOmOktDjKDzg7W1Bp5EFI4OgY8+fNAyKTcKC53P eddsa-key-20230419
Hi Guys! Welcome to LES! Want to share a little more, please, about who and where you are, your Linux experience, and what you want to do with Linux, KVM, and LXC? Thanks! Best wishes! Tom
hello, I'm a student in high school, I live in Indonesia, I'm 14 years old, I'm using linux for 1 month, I want to
running KVM to create a VM, so can I get a free metalvps account?
Thanks again for your renewed request! Please ask three people who know you to write references for you and to email their references to me at the address on my LES profile. It would be helpful if at least one of the references is from a teacher or an administrator at your high school and if another could be from one of your parents. I look forward to reading the references and to provisioning your account soon!
Best wishes and kindest regards,
Tom
Hello @Not_Oles
I want to tell you that I have no references, I apologize profusely
Hi @ExAjiMag! Thank you for telling me that you have no references! But now I am confused. How can you verify what you originally said, that you are a high school student, 14 years old, and living in Indonesia? Best wishes! Tom
please , I want to run KVM and Qemu on metalvps because my laptop is too weak to run qemu and KVM
Just to check, you are providing ssh access to your server for people to play/learn linux terminal? What's stopping a user with sudo access to install a control panel like "proxmox" or some other VM management control panel? It runs great on debian: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_11_Bullseye
I speak fluent sarcasm and broken logic. | I would agree with you, but thæn we’d both be wrong.
@Nikitas said:
Hello, @Not_Oles !
I'm a student that wanted to learn about Linux and KVM.
I'd like to get an account
My SSH key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIJDeBFV0G56I4Pj05/G3BCPu658Q3OCS8uN33t/8d84m eddsa-key-20230419
@ExAjiMag said:
Hi! @Not_Oles
I want to learn KVM and Linux
and I want to learn LXC . i want to get an account
My SSH Key : ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIL4cEgOmOktDjKDzg7W1Bp5EFI4OgY8+fNAyKTcKC53P eddsa-key-20230419
Hi Guys! Welcome to LES! Want to share a little more, please, about who and where you are, your Linux experience, and what you want to do with Linux, KVM, and LXC? Thanks! Best wishes! Tom
hello, I'm a student in high school, I live in Indonesia, I'm 14 years old, I'm using linux for 1 month, I want to
running KVM to create a VM, so can I get a free metalvps account?
Thanks again for your renewed request! Please ask three people who know you to write references for you and to email their references to me at the address on my LES profile. It would be helpful if at least one of the references is from a teacher or an administrator at your high school and if another could be from one of your parents. I look forward to reading the references and to provisioning your account soon!
Best wishes and kindest regards,
Tom
Hello @Not_Oles
I want to tell you that I have no references, I apologize profusely
Hi @ExAjiMag! Thank you for telling me that you have no references! But now I am confused. How can you verify what you originally said, that you are a high school student, 14 years old, and living in Indonesia? Best wishes! Tom
please , I want to run KVM and Qemu on metalvps because my laptop is too weak to run qemu and KVM
Please read this thread carefully. Here are a few basics:
Password access has been disabled. You need your key to log in.
Your password is in a mode 600 file in your home directory.
Your password might be needed later for sudo. But you have not yet been added to the sudo group.
Feel free to change your password.
You have been added to the kvm group.
If you want to make a KVM VPS it is recommended to start with slirp following this tutorial.
Alternatives include setting up proot as described earlier in this thread.
Additional node configuration might be needed for LXC and non-slirp qemu.
Please post your questions and progress reports and tutorials here in this thread. It benefits everyone to help answer everyone else's questions and to learn from everyone else's progress reports and tutorials. So, please post here instead of sending me PMs (except if privacy really is necessary).
Again, welcome to MetalVPS! I hope you have fun on the server! It is good to have you with us!
Just to check, you are providing ssh access to your server for people to play/learn linux terminal?
Yes! 🤩
What's stopping a user with sudo access to install a control panel like "proxmox" or some other VM management control panel? It runs great on debian: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_11_Bullseye
Not much is stopping most anybody from running most anything, as long as the use case is unselfish and open. Personally, I like open source software, and I am grateful when people use open source at MetalVPS! But . . . people want different things. So, if somebody wants to install a panel for their own use (not for reselling the MetalVPS service they got for free), that's fine.
In the past MetalVPS has had users with sudo privileges. However, there are not yet any sudo users on the i9-13900 node. Instead of sudo, MetalVPSians seem to be making great use of proot.
@iamvinh123 said: I got Debian 11 with Chrome Remote Desktop + Xfce4 working
Hey, that's great! Congrats! 🌟 Thank you for using open source software at MetalVPS!
No problem.
but can you add my newly generated SSH key so i can access the server via my tablet
ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIMhCzNxoNoUQr7LVSqaGmffnx1RqVpnKa3O8dVhcrgDH imm0nv1nhtv@ipad
Ah! But you are using VNC? You don't have cut-and-paste?
Sometime I wanna try Spice. I heard Spice has cut-and-paste.
I’m using VNC for OS installation in my VMs
I could add the SSH key by myself but since I don’t use my PC rn so I can’t add the key
Even tho, I would love to try Spice out
@Nikitas said:
Hello, @Not_Oles !
I'm a student that wanted to learn about Linux and KVM.
I'd like to get an account
My SSH key: ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIJDeBFV0G56I4Pj05/G3BCPu658Q3OCS8uN33t/8d84m eddsa-key-20230419
@ExAjiMag said:
Hi! @Not_Oles
I want to learn KVM and Linux
and I want to learn LXC . i want to get an account
My SSH Key : ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIL4cEgOmOktDjKDzg7W1Bp5EFI4OgY8+fNAyKTcKC53P eddsa-key-20230419
Hi Guys! Welcome to LES! Want to share a little more, please, about who and where you are, your Linux experience, and what you want to do with Linux, KVM, and LXC? Thanks! Best wishes! Tom
hello, I'm a student in high school, I live in Indonesia, I'm 14 years old, I'm using linux for 1 month, I want to
running KVM to create a VM, so can I get a free metalvps account?
Thanks again for your renewed request! Please ask three people who know you to write references for you and to email their references to me at the address on my LES profile. It would be helpful if at least one of the references is from a teacher or an administrator at your high school and if another could be from one of your parents. I look forward to reading the references and to provisioning your account soon!
Best wishes and kindest regards,
Tom
Hello @Not_Oles
I want to tell you that I have no references, I apologize profusely
Hi @ExAjiMag! Thank you for telling me that you have no references! But now I am confused. How can you verify what you originally said, that you are a high school student, 14 years old, and living in Indonesia? Best wishes! Tom
please , I want to run KVM and Qemu on metalvps because my laptop is too weak to run qemu and KVM
Please read this thread carefully. Here are a few basics:
Password access has been disabled. You need your key to log in.
Your password is in a mode 600 file in your home directory.
Your password might be needed later for sudo. But you have not yet been added to the sudo group.
Feel free to change your password.
You have been added to the kvm group.
If you want to make a KVM VPS it is recommended to start with slirp following this tutorial.
Alternatives include setting up proot as described earlier in this thread.
Additional node configuration might be needed for LXC and non-slirp qemu.
Please post your questions and progress reports and tutorials here in this thread. It benefits everyone to help answer everyone else's questions and to learn from everyone else's progress reports and tutorials. So, please post here instead of sending me PMs (except if privacy really is necessary).
Again, welcome to MetalVPS! I hope you have fun on the server! It is good to have you with us!
What equipment do you want to use to access the MetalVPS server? Please tell us the manufacturer and the model number.
What Operating System is running on your equipment? Please tell us the name of the Operating System and the version.
With this additional information, maybe we can help. Alternatvely, maybe we can figure out a way to get you web access with just your browser.
Best wishes!
Tom
@Not_Oles I want to use laptop to access MetalVPS server. It's HP Pavilion 14 dv0536tu. It runs Windows 11 operating system version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.1555)
Sadly, I cannot help you with Windows because I do not know anything about it. A long time ago I used to use DOS software from Microsoft, and then, briefly, Windows 98 and XP, but that was it.
There is, I hear, a program called PuTTY which people sometimes (?) use (?) to bring ssh to Windows. Also, I hear that some of the new Windows versions have Linux. I guess that the Windows-Linux might have ssh capability. Maybe you can use Google to find a PuTTY tutorial or a Linux-on-Windows tutorial?
Fortunately there are many guys here on LES who are really good with Windows. I am sure some of them can help you. I am sorry that I cannot help you with Windows!
Sadly, I cannot help you with Windows because I do not know anything about it. A long time ago I used to use DOS software from Microsoft, and then, briefly, Windows 98 and XP, but that was it.
There is, I hear, a program called PuTTY which people sometimes (?) use (?) to bring ssh to Windows. Also, I hear that some of the new Windows versions have Linux. I guess that the Windows-Linux might have ssh capability. Maybe you can use Google to find a PuTTY tutorial or a Linux-on-Windows tutorial?
Fortunately there are many guys here on LES who are really good with Windows. I am sure some of them can help you. I am sorry that I cannot help you with Windows!
Sadly, I cannot help you with Windows because I do not know anything about it. A long time ago I used to use DOS software from Microsoft, and then, briefly, Windows 98 and XP, but that was it.
There is, I hear, a program called PuTTY which people sometimes (?) use (?) to bring ssh to Windows. Also, I hear that some of the new Windows versions have Linux. I guess that the Windows-Linux might have ssh capability. Maybe you can use Google to find a PuTTY tutorial or a Linux-on-Windows tutorial?
Fortunately there are many guys here on LES who are really good with Windows. I am sure some of them can help you. I am sorry that I cannot help you with Windows!
@Not_Oles I can use WSL to run Linux commands on Windows 11. I also know that PuTTY is used to SSH into the server. If you want me to install PuTTY on Linux, I can. What should I do next? Thank.
Sadly, I cannot help you with Windows because I do not know anything about it. A long time ago I used to use DOS software from Microsoft, and then, briefly, Windows 98 and XP, but that was it.
There is, I hear, a program called PuTTY which people sometimes (?) use (?) to bring ssh to Windows. Also, I hear that some of the new Windows versions have Linux. I guess that the Windows-Linux might have ssh capability. Maybe you can use Google to find a PuTTY tutorial or a Linux-on-Windows tutorial?
Fortunately there are many guys here on LES who are really good with Windows. I am sure some of them can help you. I am sorry that I cannot help you with Windows!
@Not_Oles Oh after a while of researching, I know what SSH is ) This is my ssh ed25519 public key:
ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIFUHaQC8BCZViUt9nbsfD0ggxrlETddm+dGTZA7OG1xa
Please let me know what i need to do next.
Just to check, you are providing ssh access to your server for people to play/learn linux terminal?
Yes! 🤩
What's stopping a user with sudo access to install a control panel like "proxmox" or some other VM management control panel? It runs great on debian: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_11_Bullseye
Not much is stopping most anybody from running most anything, as long as the use case is unselfish and open. Personally, I like open source software, and I am grateful when people use open source at MetalVPS! But . . . people want different things. So, if somebody wants to install a panel for their own use (not for reselling the MetalVPS service they got for free), that's fine.
In the past MetalVPS has had users with sudo privileges. However, there are not yet any sudo users on the i9-13900 node. Instead of sudo, MetalVPSians seem to be making great use of proot.
Best wishes and kindest regards!
That's... something...
I see you are collecting the achievements by the users on your server. Do keep it up.
I speak fluent sarcasm and broken logic. | I would agree with you, but thæn we’d both be wrong.
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Thanks
Can you reply to my pm 🙂
Teehee!
Wow! Looks like @itsmepaddi is our resident expert on Windows!
I don't know anything about Windows. It's been years since I used it. Nowadays I like Open Source software, but I recognize that many people use Windows because almost everyone else with whom they interact is using Windows.
Thanks for your great PuTTY tutorial @itsmepaddi! ✨💖
Kids come out to play when there is fun!
Maybe your hosting company could offer a special deal for kids? 
Fine I'll give up
Teehee!
Hi @dough!
It didn't take you very long to get all set up!
That's super great! 
I see the command you used to set up the VM on the server:
Even though I've done this a few times, I also am unsure whether the port changes in the way you describe. But I bet we are going to find out!
Next, I see the command you used on your local machine to connect to the server:
If you have time, could you please share how you set up the image that qemu booted? I am asking about the part where you say "{rest of args here}" and also what you set up inside the image after launching it with qemu and connecting. Even though what you already have is great, if somebody wants to reproduce exactly what you show in the image, they might need to know a little more about additional steps.
Thanks for putting up your great tutorial! Thanks for using the server! It's wonderful to have you with us!
Best!
Tom
Right now I am working here in this thread. As soon as I am finished here, I need to work on the public thread over at Nodeseek. After Nodeseek I will look at the PMs. Sincere apologies that I am so slow.
Sorry! I don't understand. What are you giving up? Why? Maybe I can help you better if you kindly provide a few details? Thanks!
Hello
i just accidently lost my old private key, can i change new one?
My new public key one:ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIK6VAWbPU/F5f+BxMc5KXvuUme8heBf0VNQEg2qTerUm eddsa-key-20230423
Thanks
Dino
Hi Everyone!
Somebody asked me a question via PM, and I thought I could put the reply here because it doesn't contain any personal information and because it's an important question. So . . .
This would be a great question to ask in the public thread. You can imagine how the answer would be important for everyone to know.
The answer comes from realizing that different users have different needs. And those different needs occur across different periods of time. Here on MetalVPS we have tools like
htopwhere you can see what's happening. For example, right now, if somebody used 8 cores and 16 GB RAM and a TB of disk (approximately 1/4 of the machine) for a reasonable time, it probably wouldn't disturb anybody else too much. If somebody used half the machine for a little while, it probably wouldn't disturb anybody too much. Maybe it might be a little piggy to take half the machine or even more? But if needed, one could post in the public thread about what he was doing, how long it will take, and why.Of course, it's always a good idea not to take more than you really need for something you actually are doing.
Hope this helps!
Hi @dinopotato! I added your new key to /home/dinopotato/.ssh/authorized_keys. You can remove your old key yourself if you are sure you do not need it any more. Please let us know if you get in. I want to make sure you can access the server and join the fun! Best wishes! Tom
Please let me add that, if you have a heavy job, it sometimes might be better to do it directly on the node instead of inside a VM. First, you won't have to pay the virtualization penalty. Second, we all can see the processes, know the details of whatever is happening, and offer help and encouragement.
Hello Tom!
Thanks so much for support, now i can access it and now its working!
I'm having fun with it
Dino
Hi @Not_Oles
I am from Slovakia, i have websites but from free websites ,in computer education,experience i know everything a normal person would uh do you mean by interests what do i want or something else.
Uh i do not know what you mean by what binaries are you running with Wine. I think you meaned the version of wine?
and i do not remember the version i runned.
oh, Slovakia! I love your country
, which city are you from ?
Hi @RtedPro!
Welcome to MetalVPS! Please try something like
ssh [email protected] -p 42365Hope you have fun on the server! We are glad you are with us!
Best wishes and kindest regards!
Tom
The command I used was:
qemu-system-x86_64 -display vnc=127.0.0.1:0 -machine type=q35,accel=kvm -smp cores=2,threads=2,sockets=1 -m 3192M -hda image.qcow2 -device virtio-net,netdev=vmnic -netdev user,id=vmnic -cdrom debian.isoimage.qcow2 is an 10G image.
debian.iso is well, the debian installation media.
What I set up in the image is a Debian 11 system running with the MATE desktop enviroment, with the terminal I used being kitty.
The system itself didnt take too long to install, just under 3ish minutes.
If any more details are needed, please ask!
http://dough.h4ck.me/ - we gonna get out of mcdonalds with this one!!!
Maybe worth adding that when running directly on the node you can also adjust it's niceness.
@Not_Oles new ssh key is working. I can access the rdp now. Thank you for helping me get the ssh working. Best wishes! Ken
Your welcome!
I have used Windows for a long time already, but I recently learned Linux and thought it's a cool operating system too.
By the way, I have tried installing Windows 10 using QEMU and VNC (with password). The QEMU command is shown on the image.
Oh yeah, I also got remote desktop working on QEMU using QEMU port forwarding.
What I do is just adding the hostfwd option to port-forward connections from the outside of the MetalVPS like this
-net user,hostfwd=tcp::4444-:3389Where 4444 is the port where QEMU listens to, then it should forward it to where the guest's port (3389). Hope this is helpful.
The next thing I would like to do is trying to install Squid proxy server inside QEMU. Wish me luck!
Hi
I would like to create an account
I'm interested to learn about containers and creating vps with kvm
Nice one!
Back when I had a shared server account I used to use nice(1) a lot. Then, one day, both the server's drives blew up! 💥
The newly rebuilt server was installed with an improved variety of Linux specially tuned for shared hosting. In other words, built-in limits for everything for everybody. Instead of everybody getting great performance at all the various different times when performance was needed by various users, the new system seemed to give slow performance to everybody all the time. The wonderfully nice folks who were running the server increased my performance limits, but everything still seemed super slow all the time.
It's funny, just a few days ago I was looking through some old backups to find a file for a family member. I came across my backup from the server which blew up. Everyone on the server seemed so upset! The provider offered us 6 months credit. I simply reinstalled from my backup and told the provider, "No, thanks!" for the credit. Wow, the double disk drive explosion that happened to that server could have happened to anybody! It probably wasn't the provider's fault at all!
Maybe choosing the new, improved, limits everywhere, shared-hosting-focused distro was their fault though. I dunno. I left. Such a shame! Great guys! Good days!
Thanks for pointing out how MetalVPSians still have the opportunity to go fast-as-metal while remaining nice(1)!
Glad it's working for you, Ken! Have fun! Best wishes! Tom
Excellent! Looks great! Maybe just saying these few words doesn't sound like praise, but, really, not everybody can do what you have done. So, congrats!
It's been mentioned previously in this thread ( @ehab ) about additional protection for password login by restricting connection to known IP addresses. There's also two factor authentication. Port knocking. Other alternatives. Maybe the simplest protection is to turn your remote desktop off when you are not using it. Haha, perhaps nobody can break in while it's off.
I don't mean to bother you unnecessarily about security, but probably the server is constantly under "attack." It might be a good idea to keep security in mind.
Best of luck!
By the way, you might be the neighbor who lives furthest away from the server. How is your ping time to the server? Wanna give us a ping and a traceroute or an mtr? Only if you want. And thanks either way!
Hi @Sankara! Welcome to LES! Welcome to MetalVPS!
I guess I should say the usual stuff that I say to new members.
Want to introduce yourself? I'm sure everyone would love to hear a little about who and where you are, how you found out about us, your education, your native language, and your experience with Linux. Also, could you please describe more specifically what you want to do on the server? Finally, we need an ed25519 ssh public key to make your account, so it would help if you could post your key. Thanks very much!
Best wishes from New York City and Sonora, Mexico! 🗽🇺🇸🇲🇽🏜️
Tom
Hello @Not_Oles
I want to tell you that I have no references, I apologize profusely
Hi @ExAjiMag! Thank you for telling me that you have no references! But now I am confused. How can you verify what you originally said, that you are a high school student, 14 years old, and living in Indonesia? Best wishes! Tom
Thanks to remind me about security! I always turned my QEMU VM off when I'm not using it. I might use another remote desktop alternative such as AnyDesk or Teamviewer.
My home network has 20Mbps of internet speed. Using my home network for browsing, watching video, and attending online classes is not a problem for me, except downloading large files sometimes takes hours.
Connecting to MetalVPS using VNC and SSH through my 20Mbps home network also not a problem for me. Here is a screenshot of ping time and a traceroute as you requested.
Hi @itsmepaddi
Thanks for your nice message and the ping and traceroute data. Here's mine. As you can see, your latency and my latency are the same! I am surprised! I would have guessed that yours would be more than mine.
Thanks again! Please let me know any time you need anything on the server! Best of luck with all your projects!
Tom
I got Debian 11 with Chrome Remote Desktop + Xfce4 working
(Chrome Remote Desktop doesn't require port forwarding but SSHing does)
please , I want to run KVM and Qemu on metalvps because my laptop is too weak to run qemu and KVM
Hi @Not_Oles
Just to check, you are providing ssh access to your server for people to play/learn linux terminal? What's stopping a user with sudo access to install a control panel like "proxmox" or some other VM management control panel? It runs great on debian:
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_11_BullseyeHey, that's great! Congrats! 🌟 Thank you for using open source software at MetalVPS!
Hi @Not_Oles , I just created an account but still don't know how to do it. Can you help me ?
Hi @ExAjiMag!
I went ahead and made an account for you. So, welcome to MetalVPS! Please try something like:
ssh [email protected] -p 42365Please read this thread carefully. Here are a few basics:
Again, welcome to MetalVPS! I hope you have fun on the server! It is good to have you with us!
Tom
Hi @somik!
Yes! 🤩
Not much is stopping most anybody from running most anything, as long as the use case is unselfish and open. Personally, I like open source software,
and I am grateful when people use open source at MetalVPS! But . . . people want different things. So, if somebody wants to install a panel for their own use (not for reselling the MetalVPS service they got for free), that's fine.
In the past MetalVPS has had users with sudo privileges. However, there are not yet any sudo users on the i9-13900 node. Instead of sudo, MetalVPSians seem to be making great use of proot.
Best wishes and kindest regards!
Hi @anhkhoals01! Welcome to MetalVPS!
What equipment do you want to use to access the MetalVPS server? Please tell us the manufacturer and the model number.
What Operating System is running on your equipment? Please tell us the name of the Operating System and the version.
With this additional information, maybe we can help. Alternatvely, maybe we can figure out a way to get you web access with just your browser.
Best wishes!
Tom
No problem.
but can you add my newly generated SSH key so i can access the server via my tablet
ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIMhCzNxoNoUQr7LVSqaGmffnx1RqVpnKa3O8dVhcrgDH imm0nv1nhtv@ipad
ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIMhCzNxoNoUQr7LVSqaGmffnx1RqVpnKa3O8dVhcrgDH imm0nv1nhtv@ipad
Added. Thank you!
@iamvinh123 It's okay that you asked me, but I think you could have added the additional key yourself. Best wishes!
You are the owner of the authorized_keys file and you have read + write permission:
Ah! But you are using VNC? You don't have cut-and-paste?
Sometime I wanna try Spice. I heard Spice has cut-and-paste.
I’m using VNC for OS installation in my VMs
I could add the SSH key by myself but since I don’t use my PC rn so I can’t add the key
Even tho, I would love to try Spice out
thanks @Not_Oles
@Not_Oles I want to use laptop to access MetalVPS server. It's HP Pavilion 14 dv0536tu. It runs Windows 11 operating system version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.1555)
Sadly, I cannot help you with Windows because I do not know anything about it. A long time ago I used to use DOS software from Microsoft, and then, briefly, Windows 98 and XP, but that was it.
There is, I hear, a program called PuTTY which people sometimes (?) use (?) to bring ssh to Windows. Also, I hear that some of the new Windows versions have Linux. I guess that the Windows-Linux might have ssh capability. Maybe you can use Google to find a PuTTY tutorial or a Linux-on-Windows tutorial?
Fortunately there are many guys here on LES who are really good with Windows. I am sure some of them can help you. I am sorry that I cannot help you with Windows!
you can just add openssh capability to your command prompt and use the same commands as you would in linux.
https://winbuzzer.com/2021/08/25/how-to-enable-and-use-ssh-commands-on-windows-10-xcxwbt/
@Not_Oles I can use WSL to run Linux commands on Windows 11. I also know that PuTTY is used to SSH into the server. If you want me to install PuTTY on Linux, I can. What should I do next? Thank.
@Not_Oles Oh after a while of researching, I know what SSH is
) This is my ssh ed25519 public key:
ssh-ed25519 AAAAC3NzaC1lZDI1NTE5AAAAIFUHaQC8BCZViUt9nbsfD0ggxrlETddm+dGTZA7OG1xa
Please let me know what i need to do next.
That's... something...
I see you are collecting the achievements by the users on your server. Do keep it up.
Hi I am NgocNguyen
I would love to try this vps so I can run VM and stuff thanks!
ssh-ed25519 255 SHA256:e30mHWxpbhrOM6KszuRyUu6HgSiaEYIQZOUNyB0xPc4
Finally I got Squid proxy server working on MetalVPS with QEMU host forwarding!
