🎉 C1V's 15th Anniversary Extravaganza: Unbeatable Virtual Server Offer for One Day Only! 🎁

c1vhosting

🎉 Celebrating 15 years of emotions, collaboration, and growth, with our clients always at the heart of our mission. Join us today in commemorating C1V's #anniversary!

🎁 For today only, enjoy a Virtual Server with 2 vCore CPU, 4GB RAM, 60GB SSD, 10TB @ 2Gbps bandwidth, 100Gbps anti-DDoS protection, and dual stack IPv4/IPv6 network for just €15/year + VAT.

✍️ To take advantage of this offer, please DM me or email us at [email protected]

c1vhosting

For more information about our LG and AS, please visit:
LG: https://www.c1vhosting.it/lg/
AS: https://bgp.he.net/AS212271

We accept payments made via credit card, bank transfer, digital currencies (BTC, ETH, TON), and payment services such as Skrill and PayPal.

iaecm

15years? But whois record shows that your website was created at 2020-09-17.
Did I miss anything?

ableable

Sounds Great !!! how can get it?

c1vhosting

@ableable said:
Sounds Great !!! how can get it?

DM me

c1vhosting

@iaecm said:
15years? But whois record shows that your website was created at 2020-09-17.
Did I miss anything?

we're talking about C1V group, not only C1V hosting

MoonKeey

@iaecm said:
15years? But whois record shows that your website was created at 2020-09-17.
Did I miss anything?

You did not. Luca himself can't be more than 25 years old.
c1v.org is his mom's bookstore or smth, but that's it. They run a hosting business for two years at best.

c1vhosting

Note: It's a recurring plan

TanXS

someone please send a yabs if you got this vps

ehab

@coo said:

• You may have to wait upto 90 days for service activation.

i made 2 recent orders and were activated in 1 hour or less.

in fact the above offer was activated before i moved my ass from the chair.

c1vhosting

@ehab said:

@coo said:

• You may have to wait upto 90 days for service activation.

i made 2 recent orders and were activated in 1 hour or less.

in fact the above offer was activated before i moved my ass from the chair.

FrankZ

KVM, LXC, or OpenVZ ?

cold

@iaecm said:
15years? But whois record shows that your website was created at 2020-09-17.
Did I miss anything?

they use to sell vacuum cleaners and toasters and they move to hosting

mannen

Might jump on this. BGP is free?
And if I sign up as a company with valid VAT number, no VAT right?

yabs? What is the CPU/hardware?

ehab

@FrankZ said:
KVM, LXC, or OpenVZ ?

i think you can request to be converted to KVM

cmeerw

@FrankZ said: KVM, LXC, or OpenVZ ?

Any blocked ports (SMTP/25?), /64 IPv6 included?

c1vhosting

@mannen said:
Might jump on this. BGP is free?
And if I sign up as a company with valid VAT number, no VAT right?

yabs? What is the CPU/hardware?

BGP is not free, it’s €9,90 vat excl. one time fee
You’re right, just DM me this
E5-2680v4, DDR4 RAM, SAMSUNG datacenter SSD

c1vhosting

@cmeerw said:

@FrankZ said: KVM, LXC, or OpenVZ ?

Any blocked ports (SMTP/25?), /64 IPv6 included?

No blocked ports but no spam/malicious usage allowed (read contract before purchasing).
1 IPv6 included, just DM me and I’ll add you a /48 or more addresses.

c1vhosting

@ehab said:

@FrankZ said:
KVM, LXC, or OpenVZ ?

i think you can request to be converted to KVM

exactly

c1vhosting

@FrankZ said:
KVM, LXC, or OpenVZ ?

it comes with LXC, available KVM on request

c1vhosting

Expiring in 10 minutes…

c1vhosting

PROMOTION ENDED

ehab

Easter should bring 8GB Rams

DP

@c1vhosting said:
PROMOTION ENDED

That was quick.

Unbeatable Virtual Server Offer for One Day Only! 🎁

More like 5 hours only

jcolideles

Damn missed it. Its 1AM to 6AM promotion on our timezone.

Ganonk

one day is 24 hours.

c1vhosting

I suggest you to follow our social channels, like LinkedIn, as we posted it much time earlier.

FrankZ

@Ganonk said:
one day is 24 hours.

or until stock runs out.

ehab

@c1vhosting said:
I suggest you to follow our social channels, like LinkedIn, as we posted it much time earlier.

what is your Linkedin channel ?

cmeerw

Not the best experience so far. On the order page (after selecting your desired payment type) it shows you the total as (EUR 18.30 - ok, it's EUR 15.00 plus 22% VAT). But then after you submit the order, you get an order confirmation email, still showing "EUR 18.30", but it then adds payment fees for your selected payment type when you actually try to pay (why didn't you show those fees before submitting the order when you already knew the desired payment type?).

There is a ticket system in the client area - where you only get a reply saying that you shouldn't use that ticket system. Aehh, so why don't you remove that ticket system from the client area then?

@c1vhosting said: We accept payments made via credit card

Still waiting for their support to clarify how I can pay by credit card (which needs to be without any additional surcharges thanks to PSD2)

c1vhosting

@ehab said:

@c1vhosting said:
I suggest you to follow our social channels, like LinkedIn, as we posted it much time earlier.

what is your Linkedin channel ?

https://www.linkedin.com/company/c1v-hosting/

root

I know the promotion has ended, but out of curiosity now:

• Do they apply VAT only for customers of European Union, or they apply VAT to everyone (including non-EU customers)?
• Do they do the same with fees regarding bank cards?

MallocVoidstar

@root said:
I know the promotion has ended, but out of curiosity now:

• Do they apply VAT only for customers of European Union, or they apply VAT to everyone (including non-EU customers)?
• Do they do the same with fees regarding bank cards?

VAT for everyone unless you can provide a business ID of some kind that is outside the EU.

dosai

Anyone managed to grab this? Yabs?

cmeerw

@root said: Do they do the same with fees regarding bank cards?

What they do is that they ask for your payment method and show the price of "EUR 18.30" before you click on the "Order" button.

Once you have ordered they then present you with an invoice which might have additional fees on it (even if it's the same payment method you had selected when ordering):

Clearly, they need to read up on Unfair pricing:

Throughout the EU, sellers must indicate product prices clearly enough for you to easily compare similar products and make informed choices – no matter how they're packaged or how many units are sold together.
Companies are legally obliged to be completely clear about the price you'll have to pay when they advertise or sell something to you.

carlin0

The difference is little, but it is not an honest behavior

chris

@cmeerw said:

@root said: Do they do the same with fees regarding bank cards?

What they do is that they ask for your payment method and show the price of "EUR 18.30" before you click on the "Order" button.

Once you have ordered they then present you with an invoice which might have additional fees on it (even if it's the same payment method you had selected when ordering):

Clearly, they need to read up on Unfair pricing:

Throughout the EU, sellers must indicate product prices clearly enough for you to easily compare similar products and make informed choices – no matter how they're packaged or how many units are sold together.
Companies are legally obliged to be completely clear about the price you'll have to pay when they advertise or sell something to you.

Also charging extra for PayPal fees is against TOS

bruh21

@dosai said:
Anyone managed to grab this? Yabs?

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Wed Apr  5 18:54:32 UTC 2023

Basic System Information:
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Uptime     : 0 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz
CPU cores  : 2 @ 3300.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 3.9 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 58.8 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Kernel     : 5.15.85-1-pve
VM Type    : LXC
Net Online : IPv4 & IPv6

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : Cinzia Tocci trading as C1V
ASN        : AS212271 Cinzia Tocci trading as C1V
Host       : C1V Hosting
Location   : Milan, Lombardy (25)
Country    : Italy

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 151.86 MB/s  (37.9k) | 243.95 MB/s   (3.8k)
Write      | 152.26 MB/s  (38.0k) | 245.23 MB/s   (3.8k)
Total      | 304.13 MB/s  (76.0k) | 489.18 MB/s   (7.6k)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 237.62 MB/s    (464) | 235.01 MB/s    (229)
Write      | 250.25 MB/s    (488) | 250.66 MB/s    (244)
Total      | 487.87 MB/s    (952) | 485.67 MB/s    (473)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 811 Mbits/sec   | 1.89 Gbits/sec  | 32.6 ms        
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.05 Gbits/sec  | 1.90 Gbits/sec  | 25.7 ms        
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 68.2 Mbits/sec  | 1.74 Gbits/sec  | 33.1 ms        
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 21.7 Mbits/sec  | 1.39 Gbits/sec  | 102 ms         
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 24.3 Mbits/sec  | 1.31 Gbits/sec  | 106 ms         
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 41.9 Mbits/sec  | 713 Mbits/sec   | 137 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 38.0 Mbits/sec  | 366 Mbits/sec   | 160 ms         

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 796 Mbits/sec   | 48.9 Mbits/sec  | 32.6 ms        
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 239 Mbits/sec   | 1.89 Gbits/sec  | 25.10 ms       
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 678 Mbits/sec   | 1.70 Gbits/sec  | 32.3 ms        
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 23.8 Mbits/sec  | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 102 ms         
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 20.7 Mbits/sec  | 1.28 Gbits/sec  | 106 ms         
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | busy            | 1.15 Gbits/sec  | 136 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 104 Mbits/sec   | 322 Mbits/sec   | 160 ms         

Their only upstream on IPv4 is telia
Waiting for them to change it to KVM currently

Also, there are two entires for Debian 11 in the order form but one of them is Debian 10

root

Too many weird fees. I feel glad I asked, so that I may stay away in future.

sonic

@root said:
Too many weird fees. I feel glad I asked, so that I may stay away in future.

this tbh

ehab

@root said:
Too many weird fees. I feel glad I asked, so that I may stay away in future.

I know what you mean... and it sucks to see the final amount add up.
for me, vat is added and the only fee that surprised me was the paypal but that didn't make me stop,,, it was +4.5e in total more for 1 year.
anyway have good Easter break.

typicalGta

Pretty sure C1V is breaking Paypal TOS, afaik paypal doesn't allow you to add additional charge to the invoice as a txn fee.

fluttershy

@iaecm said:
15years? But whois record shows that your website was created at 2020-09-17.
Did I miss anything?

Maybe the owner is 15?

foxone

@typicalGta said:
Pretty sure C1V is breaking Paypal TOS, afaik paypal doesn't allow you to add additional charge to the invoice as a txn fee.

It's also breaking the law. Payment processor fees should be at the expense of the seller

typicalGta

@foxone said:

@typicalGta said:
Pretty sure C1V is breaking Paypal TOS, afaik paypal doesn't allow you to add additional charge to the invoice as a txn fee.

It's also breaking the law. Payment processor fees should be at the expense of the seller

Sounds like trouble if he doesn't remove these in time.

cmeerw

@ehab said: was the paypal but that didn't make me stop,,, it was +4.5e in total more for 1 year.

I don't think these practices should be encouraged by accepting them.

Personally, I'd like to see providers adding unexpected fees (particularly after an order has already been placed) banned from this platform.

The EU is pretty clear about this

Throughout the EU, sellers must indicate product prices clearly enough for you to easily compare similar products and make informed choices – no matter how they're packaged or how many units are sold together.
Companies are legally obliged to be completely clear about the price you'll have to pay when they advertise or sell something to you.

ehab

@cmeerw said:

@ehab said: was the paypal but that didn't make me stop,,, it was +4.5e in total more for 1 year.

I don't think these practices should be encouraged by accepting them.

Personally, I'd like to see providers adding unexpected fees (particularly after an order has already been placed) banned from this platform.

The EU is pretty clear about this

Throughout the EU, sellers must indicate product prices clearly enough for you to easily compare similar products and make informed choices – no matter how they're packaged or how many units are sold together.
Companies are legally obliged to be completely clear about the price you'll have to pay when they advertise or sell something to you.

so they need to add + gateway fees and problem solved, yeah.

root

I don't know about others, but I like transparency, and I like providers who include all their fees into the price of service or product.

When I buy a burger, I do not wish to know how much the meat butcher costs + veggies + sauce + work of chef + official tip of waiter + fee for toilet cleaning + whatever other fees. I just want to enjoy my burger. Same goes here: I do not wish to know the fees a provider has; just add them in the price of service from the start and be done with it without even mentioning these, because it is easier for the consumer when ordering and understanding the server which they enjoy. Clients should come first for any business.

DP

FrankZ

@ehab said:

@cmeerw said:

@ehab said: was the paypal but that didn't make me stop,,, it was +4.5e in total more for 1 year.

I don't think these practices should be encouraged by accepting them.

Personally, I'd like to see providers adding unexpected fees (particularly after an order has already been placed) banned from this platform.

The EU is pretty clear about this

Throughout the EU, sellers must indicate product prices clearly enough for you to easily compare similar products and make informed choices – no matter how they're packaged or how many units are sold together.
Companies are legally obliged to be completely clear about the price you'll have to pay when they advertise or sell something to you.

so they need to add + gateway fees and problem solved, yeah.

I prefer that prices shown in offer threads are after any discounts and inclusive of all reoccurring fees. This makes it easier for everybody to understand what the price is for the product being offered. When a provider charges VAT only to EU persons without a VAT number it is understood why a VAT % is listed separately. In this case the provider charges VAT on all sales and only deducts VAT when a company with a valid EU VAT number is the client. Deducting VAT for this provider would be the exception, as opposed to the rule. IMO Charging transaction gateway fees that are not listed in the offer thread or on the purchase page, after a purchase, could be considered an attempt at deception, or at the least, a poor understanding by the provider of how this is going to be perceived by LESbians.

What I would prefer to see in future offers from this provider is that prices listed in the offer thread are the prices that members end up paying. (Price - discount + VAT + gateway fees = price listed in offer thread.) and a statement that for companies with a valid EU VAT number, the VAT would be removed.

Of course @ehab is also correct that clearly stating (price - discount + VAT + gateways fee) is also not deceptive.

ralf

@MallocVoidstar said:

@root said:
I know the promotion has ended, but out of curiosity now:

• Do they apply VAT only for customers of European Union, or they apply VAT to everyone (including non-EU customers)?
• Do they do the same with fees regarding bank cards?

VAT for everyone unless you can provide a business ID of some kind that is outside the EU.

Asking someone other than C1V - is this really how VAT works in Italy? I know VAT rules change from country to country, but normally VAT isn't chargeable to customers outside the EU. At least in UK (prior to Brexit and still), and it's seemingly this way with most other hosting companies aside from a couple of German providers (but not all).