@somik said:
From what I am reading, it seems updraft free does not backup "wordpress" itself, only the wp-contents folder and database. So on your new server, you still need a valid wordpres installation (with updraft) to be able to restore your site. Seems normal to me...
The premium lets you backup everything + db so restore is easier.
That is the same how AIO WP Migration works.
You do need to install WP and the plugin, and then use the plugin to import the backup you made using that same plugin.
During the import, if the domain is different, the plugin auto-fixes all the links and options to work.
AIO WP Migration lets you uncheck what you don't want altered in that case (like email domains, for example, if your staging was configured to use the main domain's emails for testing and confirmation).
Not sure anymore which options Updraft provides but keep us updated. After using it a couple of times, I almost never used aio wp again as I always had to find and upload my "pro" plugin, so Updraft was just easier.
@bikegremlin said:
Nah - Updraft Plus is shit for migrating.
I'll stick with the old AIO and maybe figure out a way to remove the limits - or find an alternative option.
Lol! Going to get the AIO subscription?
LOL
I'll look for alternatives - from a company that is not Servmask.
So, did you find a good alternative for your problem?
Here are a few suggestions from our survivor and overlord, AI:
Duplicator (by Snap Creek)
One of the most widely used migration/backup plugins.
Creates a package (ZIP + installer.php) that you upload to the new host.
Handles database serialization issues when changing domains.
Free version works for most sites, Pro adds multisite and cloud storage support.
Wants your money for the pro - if you want to do a migration to a different domain without much hassle.
Free is just a technicality - as is the case with 99.99% of the "backup" plugins.
Sigh.
Migrate Guru (by BlogVault)
Free and optimized for large sites (up to 200 GB).
Runs migrations on their servers, so it doesn’t overload your hosting.
Great for moving between hosts, especially if you don’t want to deal with manual DB edits.
UpdraftPlus
Mainly a backup plugin, but also supports migration/cloning with an add-on (premium).
Lets you backup to cloud storage (Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and restore on the new site.
Useless for migration - they want your money.
A lot of it.
Like practically all the backup plugins.
WPvivid Backup & Migration
Free plugin that supports backups and migration.
You can generate a backup on your old site and restore it on the new one.
Supports remote transfer via FTP/SFTP, direct site-to-site migration.
Looks like a beta version - it is a beta version (0.9.119).
BackupBuddy (iThemes, paid)
Long-standing premium plugin for backup + migration.
Allows domain replacement during migration.
More advanced scheduling and storage options.
Didn't try the others yet - apart from the two I commented.
It seems to boil down to not letting a plugin work unless you pay is the name of the game for 99.99% of backup plugins (and many other, but here it seems to be overwhelmingly prevalent).
Capitalism. Folks want money. But it is shady to publish a plugin as "free" - I've got a 10000 free bicycle service services for folks like these! LOL
Looks like it's time to create a free migration plugin!
So who's going to do it?
On a more serious note, I guess it makes sense that plugin developers are asking for money. If you are making money of your WP site, they want a slice of it; and if you are not, well, then you dont matter to them.
Too bad I kinda never got around to making any WP plugins, even when I was working with PHP scripts...
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@somik said:
Looks like it's time to create a free migration plugin!
So who's going to do it?
On a more serious note, I guess it makes sense that plugin developers are asking for money. If you are making money of your WP site, they want a slice of it; and if you are not, well, then you dont matter to them.
Too bad I kinda never got around to making any WP plugins, even when I was working with PHP scripts...
I dislike the shadiness of it.
The "free" plugins that hamper core functionality until you pay.
The plugin search and promotion on WP.org that pushes those who've paid the bribes, basically.
Zeitgeist I guess - that's how it is now.
And I thought my guarantee was scammy! LOL
@somik said:
Looks like it's time to create a free migration plugin!
So who's going to do it?
On a more serious note, I guess it makes sense that plugin developers are asking for money. If you are making money of your WP site, they want a slice of it; and if you are not, well, then you dont matter to them.
Too bad I kinda never got around to making any WP plugins, even when I was working with PHP scripts...
I dislike the shadiness of it.
The "free" plugins that hamper core functionality until you pay.
The plugin search and promotion on WP.org that pushes those who've paid the bribes, basically.
Zeitgeist I guess - that's how it is now.
Well, wordpress "used" to be a free and opensource blog alternative to sites like Blogger, LiveJournal and Xanga. Before wordpress got popular, Moveable Type used to be the most popular blogging platform, but it had very restrictive licensing changes. So people loved wordpress.
Now wordpress is the only real one left and without proper competition, they are free to switch their model to mostly commercial. I mean the first site i got while searching for wordpress on google was wordpress.com... The "real" one is wordpress.org, which doesn't even show up until the 6th result on my search engine... So ya, money won over.
Moreover, the "community" plugins dont even show up on a regular search at all, so it's not worth the time spent to create the plugin. I see most people make their wordpress plugins available on github instead of listing it on WP, so maybe give that a try?
@bikegremlin said:
And I thought my guarantee was scammy! LOL
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Not sure anymore which options Updraft provides but keep us updated. After using it a couple of times, I almost never used aio wp again as I always had to find and upload my "pro" plugin, so Updraft was just easier.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Nah - Updraft Plus is shit for migrating.
I'll stick with the old AIO and maybe figure out a way to remove the limits - or find an alternative option.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Lol! Going to get the AIO subscription?
LOL
I'll look for alternatives - from a company that is not Servmask.
If we can't laugh, what can we do?
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
You can always go there with some rakjia and tell them that is really good and drink it all in front of them. Make them jealous like hell
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So, did you find a good alternative for your problem?
Here are a few suggestions from our survivor and overlord, AI:
Duplicator (by Snap Creek)
Migrate Guru (by BlogVault)
UpdraftPlus
WPvivid Backup & Migration
BackupBuddy (iThemes, paid)
FYI:;WPVivid was developed by someone at LE forums.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Huh? Who?!?
Forgot the name sadly, but if you look for it they've been present on LE.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Wants your money for the pro - if you want to do a migration to a different domain without much hassle.
Free is just a technicality - as is the case with 99.99% of the "backup" plugins.
Sigh.
Useless for migration - they want your money.
A lot of it.
Like practically all the backup plugins.
Looks like a beta version - it is a beta version (0.9.119).
Didn't try the others yet - apart from the two I commented.
It seems to boil down to not letting a plugin work unless you pay is the name of the game for 99.99% of backup plugins (and many other, but here it seems to be overwhelmingly prevalent).
Capitalism. Folks want money. But it is shady to publish a plugin as "free" - I've got a 10000 free bicycle service services for folks like these! LOL
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Looks like it's time to create a free migration plugin!
So who's going to do it?
On a more serious note, I guess it makes sense that plugin developers are asking for money. If you are making money of your WP site, they want a slice of it; and if you are not, well, then you dont matter to them.
Too bad I kinda never got around to making any WP plugins, even when I was working with PHP scripts...
I dislike the shadiness of it.
The "free" plugins that hamper core functionality until you pay.
The plugin search and promotion on WP.org that pushes those who've paid the bribes, basically.
Zeitgeist I guess - that's how it is now.
And I thought my guarantee was scammy! LOL
https://bike.bikegremlin.com/22892/warranty-on-a-used-bicycle/#2.3
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Well, wordpress "used" to be a free and opensource blog alternative to sites like Blogger, LiveJournal and Xanga. Before wordpress got popular, Moveable Type used to be the most popular blogging platform, but it had very restrictive licensing changes. So people loved wordpress.
Now wordpress is the only real one left and without proper competition, they are free to switch their model to mostly commercial. I mean the first site i got while searching for wordpress on google was wordpress.com... The "real" one is wordpress.org, which doesn't even show up until the 6th result on my search engine... So ya, money won over.
Also, take a look at this:
24 results, does not match search:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/backup/?plugin_business_model=community
72 results, matches search:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/backup/?plugin_business_model=commercial
Moreover, the "community" plugins dont even show up on a regular search at all, so it's not worth the time spent to create the plugin. I see most people make their wordpress plugins available on github instead of listing it on WP, so maybe give that a try?
LOL!
EDIT:
Another migration plugin without domain changer... https://github.com/JustPkDev/just-migrate