Year ago, I recommended a friend to use Hostmantis's AU location, and forget to give him the 80% discount code so he is paiding 100% at all.
I forwarded the price change to him and he replie me:"I dont see the different"
My guess is that LEer is too price-sensitive.
@elliotc said:
Year ago, I recommended a friend to use Hostmantis's AU location, and forget to give him the 80% discount code so he is paiding 100% at all.
I forwarded the price change to him and he replie me:"I dont see the different"
My guess is that LEer is too price-sensitive.
By the sounds of it, it depends what plan your on - it seems the smallest plan is being scrapped so pushed to higher plans, so those on the higher plans already probably wont notice as much.
@WSCallum said: it seems the smallest plan is being scrapped so pushed to higher plans
No, the smallest plan is staying, this is where people are getting confused and fueling claims of dodgy practice.
Entry - Starter - Advanced - Expert
It will now become
Entry - Advanced - Expert
So if you were on the Starter plan at $8.95 you will be auto moved to the Advanced plan at $29.95 which makes sense, you can't assume a downgrade will work. Those prices are window price, no discounts applied. It is a big jump but everyone has the option to take the Entry plan if their current usage works for that plan, in which case the change is a $1 increase but then discounts are still to be applied.
IMO, they would have done well to grandfather in discounts as best they can, or adjust those discounts for potentially 0% profit margin where the costs truly do exceed the revenue. This thread could have gone a very different way if they had, with praise and recommendation.
Those customer on the larger discount would have eventually thinned out and in the mean time they would probably bring them some positive press in the form of forum comments and reviews.
Price increases are fine, but I think they should be for new accounts and upgrades. They might not have even needed to announce the changes if they are for new customers only.
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Just cite "The end is nigh" and be done with this shit.
Or you could leave that shit on LET where it belongs.
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@vyas said:
I am interested in knowing who is going to buy them. CPanel price hike seems like a cover for actual intent
Shared Hosting user have a great part don't know about tech at all, learning a new panel and migration is a huge cost to them. Their raised prices are still very competitive with the outside world, specifically AU and SGP locations. Their quality is worth the price. I didn't know them through LET/LES, but through some coupon site by random google search. I'm sure many more people are like that. The greatest hit should be the resellers who followed their original business model.
@WSCallum said: it seems the smallest plan is being scrapped so pushed to higher plans
No, the smallest plan is staying, this is where people are getting confused and fueling claims of dodgy practice.
Entry - Starter - Advanced - Expert
It will now become
Entry - Advanced - Expert
So if you were on the Starter plan at $8.95 you will be auto moved to the Advanced plan at $29.95 which makes sense, you can't assume a downgrade will work. Those prices are window price, no discounts applied. It is a big jump but everyone has the option to take the Entry plan if their current usage works for that plan, in which case the change is a $1 increase but then discounts are still to be applied.
Makes sense, still I can see why users would be kicking off about the starter plan being removed and being forced on to an advanced plan which is $21 per month more expensive. Surely HM could've removed the plan for new orders and kept their existing clients on the plan but with an inline price increase for the increased cPanel account costs/HM costs.
Just a case of wait and see now. I really think the issues are more around their poor marketing/communication skill than suggestions there is something wrong or they are selling up.
@Lee said:
Just a case of wait and see now. I really think the issues are more around their poor marketing/communication skill than suggestions there is something wrong or they are selling up.
From what little I know about you, kind sir,(been in the business/exited, now financial world..)
Part of me is inclined to agree on the bad marketing/communication skills.
The rest of me - as in outsider, and I could be wrong ...
The data points towards a sale or a merger. Or a strategic investment.
Focusing on higher tier plans, i.e maybe lesser MRR but higher margins. That being the most apparent one, the pre emptive hike for DA plans is the other.
The freed up space from the quitters is offered back as a reward to those who stay
Unless disk prices have dropped dramatically . Again I am not familiar with current prices.
———-
Or they are burning out cash and are turning into the supernova that is shining brighter than ever before the explosion.
@vyas said: @smallweb is your Singapore location on HM or direct with OVZ? If it is the former,then is it a big hit for you?
Not a big hit, but enough to warrant moving to a VPS at that point. Only trouble is LiteSpeed.
Price increases are fair, but cPanel scape-goating for non-cPanel products is meh. I agree with Lee.
Yeah, that'd suck. But as far as Litespeed is concerned, you can just get openlitespeed set-up on DA.
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@Intelpentium0 said:
Still they are selling the starter plan in WHT without even mentioning about the retirement.
I think that's beautiful.
Their Starter plans for cPanel are OOS but not the DA plans when ordered from the website, although they are from the client area. I asked them what the storage and account limits will be on the plans going forward and they said Entry (50GB) / Advanced (100GB) / Expert (150GB) and account limits stays the same. It doesn't really make sense, as the Entry plans with 50GB at new DA pricing is $5.95/month or $9.95/m with cPanel and the Advanced plan with 100GB on DA is $18.95/m and $29.95/m with cPanel. Cheaper to get x2 Entry plans with 50GB and pay two thirds of the price of the Advanced plan.
@Intelpentium0 said:
Still they are selling the starter plan in WHT without even mentioning about the retirement.
I think that's beautiful.
Their Starter plans for cPanel are OOS but not the DA plans when ordered from the website, although they are from the client area. I asked them what the storage and account limits will be on the plans going forward and they said Entry (50GB) / Advanced (100GB) / Expert (150GB) and account limits stays the same. It doesn't really make sense, as the Entry plans with 50GB at new DA pricing is $5.95/month or $9.95/m with cPanel and the Advanced plan with 100GB on DA is $18.95/m and $29.95/m with cPanel. Cheaper to get x2 Entry plans with 50GB and pay two thirds of the price of the Advanced plan.
Haven't you noticed these things (disk size, account number, and prices) change on the go?
Check again in a month or two, to see what the situation is like.
@bikegremlin said:
Haven't you noticed these things (disk size, account number, and prices) change on the go?
Check again in a month or two, to see what the situation is like.
Exactly. They obviously haven’t thought through the pricing model at all and highly suggests that price changes will come again, in the not too distant future as you say.
Don’t you host your websites with them currently? Are you planning on sticking around?
@bikegremlin said:
Haven't you noticed these things (disk size, account number, and prices) change on the go?
Check again in a month or two, to see what the situation is like.
Exactly. They obviously haven’t thought through the pricing model at all and highly suggests that price changes will come again, in the not too distant future as you say.
Don’t you host your websites with them currently? Are you planning on sticking around?
As far as I'm concerned - any hosting company could deadpool - nothing is guaranteed. Backups, always, prepared to move...
I do currently host with them. Have more than a year of subscription left (until spring 2022).
So, during 2021, I'll see how things fare (unless they deadpool earlier). Then decide whether I'll stay, or move on.
That should give me enough time to see how other providers handle the newest cPanel situation, as well as CentOS situation.
How will the prices, and the quality of service go.
Still, suppose there's no use even asking what the plan resources and renewal price will be, until 2022. It might change several times until then.
It is a pretty shit thing to keep advertising like nothing is happening. I mean even though the Starter Plan has been put out of stock someone could sign up for the entry plan meantime whilst they wait on stock becoming available.
So they get a double hit, not only will the Starter never be available but their entry plan price is going to jump up in a month to $9.95.
I can fully understand the need to change, sometimes with little notice and for a variety of reasons, but straight out misleading customers is a dick move. The email with the changes came out on the 5th Dec, they are still posting the same ad on WHT on the 12th Dec, SMH.
@Lee said:
It is a pretty shit thing to keep advertising like nothing is happening. I mean even though the Starter Plan has been put out of stock someone could sign up for the entry plan meantime whilst they wait on stock becoming available.
So they get a double hit, not only will the Starter never be available but their entry plan price is going to jump up in a month to $9.95.
I can fully understand the need to change, sometimes with little notice and for a variety of reasons, but straight out misleading customers is a dick move. The email with the changes came out on the 5th Dec, they are still posting the same ad on WHT on the 12th Dec, SMH.
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Year ago, I recommended a friend to use Hostmantis's AU location, and forget to give him the 80% discount code so he is paiding 100% at all.
I forwarded the price change to him and he replie me:"I dont see the different"
My guess is that LEer is too price-sensitive.
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By the sounds of it, it depends what plan your on - it seems the smallest plan is being scrapped so pushed to higher plans, so those on the higher plans already probably wont notice as much.
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No, the smallest plan is staying, this is where people are getting confused and fueling claims of dodgy practice.
Entry - Starter - Advanced - Expert
It will now become
Entry - Advanced - Expert
So if you were on the Starter plan at $8.95 you will be auto moved to the Advanced plan at $29.95 which makes sense, you can't assume a downgrade will work. Those prices are window price, no discounts applied. It is a big jump but everyone has the option to take the Entry plan if their current usage works for that plan, in which case the change is a $1 increase but then discounts are still to be applied.
Just cite "The end is nigh" and be done with this shit.
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Or you could leave that shit on LET where it belongs.
IMO, they would have done well to grandfather in discounts as best they can, or adjust those discounts for potentially 0% profit margin where the costs truly do exceed the revenue. This thread could have gone a very different way if they had, with praise and recommendation.
Those customer on the larger discount would have eventually thinned out and in the mean time they would probably bring them some positive press in the form of forum comments and reviews.
Price increases are fine, but I think they should be for new accounts and upgrades. They might not have even needed to announce the changes if they are for new customers only.
I am interested in knowing who is going to buy them. CPanel price hike seems like a cover for actual intent
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Stop that. Stop it right away!
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Shared Hosting user have a great part don't know about tech at all, learning a new panel and migration is a huge cost to them. Their raised prices are still very competitive with the outside world, specifically AU and SGP locations. Their quality is worth the price. I didn't know them through LET/LES, but through some coupon site by random google search. I'm sure many more people are like that. The greatest hit should be the resellers who followed their original business model.
Action and Reaction in history
Makes sense, still I can see why users would be kicking off about the starter plan being removed and being forced on to an advanced plan which is $21 per month more expensive. Surely HM could've removed the plan for new orders and kept their existing clients on the plan but with an inline price increase for the increased cPanel account costs/HM costs.
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Just a case of wait and see now. I really think the issues are more around their poor marketing/communication skill than suggestions there is something wrong or they are selling up.
From what little I know about you, kind sir,(been in the business/exited, now financial world..)
Part of me is inclined to agree on the bad marketing/communication skills.
The rest of me - as in outsider, and I could be wrong ...
The data points towards a sale or a merger. Or a strategic investment.
Focusing on higher tier plans, i.e maybe lesser MRR but higher margins. That being the most apparent one, the pre emptive hike for DA plans is the other.
The freed up space from the quitters is offered back as a reward to those who stay
Unless disk prices have dropped dramatically . Again I am not familiar with current prices.
———-
Or they are burning out cash and are turning into the supernova that is shining brighter than ever before the explosion.
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Still they are selling the starter plan in WHT without even mentioning about the retirement.
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I think that's beautiful.
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Their Starter plans for cPanel are OOS but not the DA plans when ordered from the website, although they are from the client area. I asked them what the storage and account limits will be on the plans going forward and they said Entry (50GB) / Advanced (100GB) / Expert (150GB) and account limits stays the same. It doesn't really make sense, as the Entry plans with 50GB at new DA pricing is $5.95/month or $9.95/m with cPanel and the Advanced plan with 100GB on DA is $18.95/m and $29.95/m with cPanel. Cheaper to get x2 Entry plans with 50GB and pay two thirds of the price of the Advanced plan.
Haven't you noticed these things (disk size, account number, and prices) change on the go?
Check again in a month or two, to see what the situation is like.
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Exactly. They obviously haven’t thought through the pricing model at all and highly suggests that price changes will come again, in the not too distant future as you say.
Don’t you host your websites with them currently? Are you planning on sticking around?
As far as I'm concerned - any hosting company could deadpool - nothing is guaranteed. Backups, always, prepared to move...
I do currently host with them. Have more than a year of subscription left (until spring 2022).
So, during 2021, I'll see how things fare (unless they deadpool earlier). Then decide whether I'll stay, or move on.
That should give me enough time to see how other providers handle the newest cPanel situation, as well as CentOS situation.
How will the prices, and the quality of service go.
Still, suppose there's no use even asking what the plan resources and renewal price will be, until 2022. It might change several times until then.
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It is a pretty shit thing to keep advertising like nothing is happening. I mean even though the Starter Plan has been put out of stock someone could sign up for the entry plan meantime whilst they wait on stock becoming available.
So they get a double hit, not only will the Starter never be available but their entry plan price is going to jump up in a month to $9.95.
I can fully understand the need to change, sometimes with little notice and for a variety of reasons, but straight out misleading customers is a dick move. The email with the changes came out on the 5th Dec, they are still posting the same ad on WHT on the 12th Dec, SMH.
You sign up, and then they be like:
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