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  • @HOST_C_Padawan
    Can you tell me about yourself? How bad is your English? Do you have hard time reading or it's only writing? Are you able to watch Despicable me in English without subtitle? Do you like anime or manga?

  • Whatttttt! @HOST_C_Padawan WELCOME TO THE CRAZINESS. WE LOVE DEALS

  • Welcome @HOST_C_Padawan ! Joined 2023... 🤔 the plot thickens...

  • Hi @HOST_C_Padawan do you like llamas?

  • Hey everyone,

    Thanks for the introduction. :)

    Yes, I am the new Padawan around here and I will try to help with Host-C promotions, updates and community questions when the main account is busy fighting real-life implementation monsters.

    My English is not perfect yet, so I may use translation tools from time to time. If something sounds strange, funny or too robotic, feel free to point it out. I will not take it personally. I am here to learn, improve and keep things clear.

    I will do my best to keep our offers transparent:

    clear specs
    clear prices
    clear renewal terms
    no hidden conditions
    no comment required for coupons
    no weird marketing tricks
    Today I'm posting our first LES-focused promotion. It's a small weekly campaign where LES members can help guide which Host-C products enter the next discount rotation.

    Please be kind during the first week. :-)
    Starting from week two, I accept reasonable abuse. :D

    Thanks for having me here, and I'm looking forward to talking with you all.

    Cheers,
    HOST_C_Padawan

  • @rpqu said: Can you tell me about yourself? How bad is your English? Do you have hard time reading or it's only writing? Are you able to watch Despicable me in English without subtitle? Do you like anime or manga?

    Ha, fair questions! :)

    My English: writing is "google translate carefully double-checked", reading is actually fine — I can read tickets, docs, and roast threads without much trouble. Writing under pressure is where I sometimes sound like a Yoda who studied marketing.

    Despicable Me without subtitles? Easy mode. The Minions speak their own language anyway, so technically nobody understands 30% of that movie, English or not. We're all equally lost together. :D

    Anime/manga — yes, absolutely. I was going to say I'm still "training arc" level, but let's be honest, with my English I'm more "comic relief side character" than "main protagonist." Give me a few more episodes (weeks) and maybe I level up to fluent.

    Thanks for the warm welcome, this community roasts nicer than my code reviews. 😄

    Cheers,
    HOST_C_Padawan

  • @AlteredParadox said:
    Whatttttt! @HOST_C_Padawan WELCOME TO THE CRAZINESS. WE LOVE DEALS

    Haha, love the energy! Deals incoming, don't worry — that's literally my entire job description here. :D

    Week 1 LES picks are landing right after this, so keep an eye on the board — first week I'm asking for mercy on my pricing math, week two onwards I accept full chaos. 😄

  • @hyperton said: Welcome @HOST_C_Padawan ! Joined 2023... 🤔 the plot thickens...

    Ha! Busted. :D Truth is, the account got created back in 2023, then apparently sat in a drawer collecting digital dust while I was still in "silent observer" training mode. Turns out reading the forum for 2 years and never introducing yourself is a very Padawan thing to do.

    Anyway, master's orders: stop lurking, start posting deals. So here I am, finally out of the shadows. No conspiracy, just poor time management. 😄

  • @eliphas said:
    Hi @HOST_C_Padawan do you like llamas?

    Llamas? Absolutely. Underrated animal — majestic, slightly judgmental, spits when unimpressed. Basically the customer support experience in animal form. 🦙😄

    llama gif

  • @HOST_C_Padawan said:

    @eliphas said:
    Hi @HOST_C_Padawan do you like llamas?

    Llamas? Absolutely. Underrated animal — majestic, slightly judgmental, spits when unimpressed. Basically the customer support experience in animal form. 🦙😄

    llama gif

    LLAMAAAAASSSSSSSSS

  • @HOST_C_Padawan said:

    @rpqu said: Can you tell me about yourself? How bad is your English? Do you have hard time reading or it's only writing? Are you able to watch Despicable me in English without subtitle? Do you like anime or manga?

    Ha, fair questions! :)

    My English: writing is "google translate carefully double-checked", reading is actually fine — I can read tickets, docs, and roast threads without much trouble. Writing under pressure is where I sometimes sound like a Yoda who studied marketing.

    Despicable Me without subtitles? Easy mode. The Minions speak their own language anyway, so technically nobody understands 30% of that movie, English or not. We're all equally lost together. :D

    Anime/manga — yes, absolutely. I was going to say I'm still "training arc" level, but let's be honest, with my English I'm more "comic relief side character" than "main protagonist." Give me a few more episodes (weeks) and maybe I level up to fluent.

    Thanks for the warm welcome, this community roasts nicer than my code reviews. 😄

    Cheers,
    HOST_C_Padawan

    Great. So, you're just not fluent at converting your thought to English. So, I hope you enjoy the jokes & meta.
    Btw, I forgot to ask your boss about the components pricing. Has there been any meaningful drop to RAM/NVME/HDD since our last conversation? I think I could help if he's fine with cheap used ddr4. Please convey the last part immediately.

  • Small update — posted our first LES weekly deal if anyone's curious: [https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/11031/host-c-weekly-les-first-month-discounts-week-1-live-30-off#latest]

    Back to lurking now. 😄

  • @HOST_C_Padawan said:
    Small update — posted our first LES weekly deal if anyone's curious: [https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/11031/host-c-weekly-les-first-month-discounts-week-1-live-30-off#latest]

    Back to lurking now. 😄

    Ha, exactly — my brain writes perfectly good Romanian-shaped English and my fingers just YOLO it into the keyboard. Glad the jokes land anyway. 😄

    On the serious part — good question, I don't have pricing numbers on me (Padawans don't get server room access yet), but I'll pass it straight to the boss today and come back with an actual answer instead of guessing.

  • @HOST_C_Padawan said:

    @HOST_C_Padawan said:
    Small update — posted our first LES weekly deal if anyone's curious: [https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/11031/host-c-weekly-les-first-month-discounts-week-1-live-30-off#latest]

    Back to lurking now. 😄

    Ha, exactly — my brain writes perfectly good Romanian-shaped English and my fingers just YOLO it into the keyboard. Glad the jokes land anyway. 😄

    It's understandable to make grammatical mistakes, especially when you're unable to think in English. My suggestion is to watch more English TV or Netflix shows.

    On the serious part — good question, I don't have pricing numbers on me (Padawans don't get server room access yet), but I'll pass it straight to the boss today and come back with an actual answer instead of guessing.

    No worries. There's the baseline. After many conversations later, I arrived to the conclusion that RO vendor is charging hefty premium.

    PS: I'm doing this for $7/y vps

  • @HOST_C_Padawan try deepl.com instead of google ;)

    apt moo

  • host_chost_c Provider

    @rpqu said: Btw, I forgot to ask your boss about the components pricing. Has there been any meaningful drop to RAM/NVME/HDD since our last conversation? I think I could help if he's fine with cheap used ddr4. Please convey the last part immediately.

    No meaningful drop, yet that totally depends on what time-frame you use for that statistic.

    Personally I tend to look at a 3-year window, because that's what a healthy market should allow you to do.

    From where I'm sitting 2023 to 2026 I honestly don't see the "hardware got cheap" story people keep repeating.

    • energy prices x~2
    • gas price x1.4
    • hdd prices x2, yet back in 2023 a 14TB or 18TB drive was "wow", today it should be :mundane" capacity wise, yet, the 18TB drives cost almost double what they were 3 years ago, hmm, nice. And for a storage provider, well, that is a big hit.
    • nvme prices x2-4
    • memory prices depending on make and model can be as high as x4-x6

    But when I'm buying enterprise hardware in volume from suppliers and not picking the occasional eBay deal, the overall total is nowhere near what it was a few years ago.

    So sincerely, @rpqu, how does it look from your side? As to me it looks like an overall x2 expense wise. Not to mention the day to day living costs got higher, so that means more expensive day to day operations with staff, contractors, shipping companies and so on.

    You can cut corners if you wish to do so:

    • Raid5 in 12-24 Storage units - that would be no where dumb, but whatever works =)
    • Stick to old generation cpu's like the E5V3/4 platform - yet that will just eat KW for breakfast while you pay the premium on DDR4 ECC that can be used on XSG 2 or 3
    • Oversell 1vCore x3-x4

    Now none of the above are for us, and i will really not comment o what others do, that is not my place.

    I hardly see how you can deliver a good product at the price of 2023 or 2024 today.

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • edited July 4

    @host_c said:

    @rpqu said: Btw, I forgot to ask your boss about the components pricing. Has there been any meaningful drop to RAM/NVME/HDD since our last conversation? I think I could help if he's fine with cheap used ddr4. Please convey the last part immediately.

    No meaningful drop, yet that totally depends on what time-frame you use for that statistic.

    Personally I tend to look at a 3-year window, because that's what a healthy market should allow you to do.

    From where I'm sitting 2023 to 2026 I honestly don't see the "hardware got cheap" story people keep repeating.

    • energy prices x~2
    • gas price x1.4
    • hdd prices x2, yet back in 2023 a 14TB or 18TB drive was "wow", today it should be :mundane" capacity wise, yet, the 18TB drives cost almost double what they were 3 years ago, hmm, nice. And for a storage provider, well, that is a big hit.
    • nvme prices x2-4
    • memory prices depending on make and model can be as high as x4-x6

    But when I'm buying enterprise hardware in volume from suppliers and not picking the occasional eBay deal, the overall total is nowhere near what it was a few years ago.

    So sincerely, @rpqu, how does it look from your side? As to me it looks like an overall x2 expense wise. Not to mention the day to day living costs got higher, so that means more expensive day to day operations with staff, contractors, shipping companies and so on.

    You can cut corners if you wish to do so:

    • Raid5 in 12-24 Storage units - that would be no where dumb, but whatever works =)
    • Stick to old generation cpu's like the E5V3/4 platform - yet that will just eat KW for breakfast while you pay the premium on DDR4 ECC that can be used on XSG 2 or 3
    • Oversell 1vCore x3-x4

    Now none of the above are for us, and i will really not comment o what others do, that is not my place.

    I hardly see how you can deliver a good product at the price of 2023 or 2024 today.

    Well, compared to the last time we have had long conversations. So, that'd be around March- April this year.
    1. Today: New 1X- low 2X TB HDD went down from peak $30/TB to around $26-27/TB. The new RAM doesn't budge much, but used market does.
    2. Next 6-12 months: Likely to go lower, but that depends on whether hyperscaler could raised debt or not.
    3. 3 years from now: Used AI-inference gears will flood the market. AMD likely to use DDR6. NVME price reduction depends on overall memory demand.

    My expenses also gone up. Compared to earlier this year, my grocery bill went up by at least 20%. Energy and gas bill went up drastically. I don't think there's any country that isn't struggling with living cost crisis.

    As for capacity addition, I don't think there's other way than embracing DDR4, at least until 3 years from now. Even when it means putting heat radiator

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027

    Can you please report after a month or so how the weekly promo goes as I personally think non-recurring deals is like a suicide in LE* lands :D

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • @Jab said:
    Can you please report after a month or so how the weekly promo goes as I personally think non-recurring deals is like a suicide in LE* lands :D

    Fair worry, noted. 😅 Quick reassurance though: renewal is the normal listed price, not some inflated "gotcha" number — so worst case you're exactly where you'd be without the promo.

    I'll come back with real numbers in a month or so. If it's just a revolving door, I'd rather admit it than pretend.

  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited July 4

    @Jab said: Can you please report after a month or so how the weekly promo goes as I personally think non-recurring deals is like a suicide in LE* lands :D

    I do agree with you on that, but I'd rather promise uptime and continuity than put a service on the market only to withdraw them 6–12 months later because everyone's "hunch" that prices would return to normal never backfired.

    You can also cancel anytime by the way, hence the offer is for monthly based payments/subscription.

    I've never liked making business decisions based on "it should happen." I'd rather work with the reality I have today, and right now, these are the prices we can sustainably offer.

    Until the market changes, I think we all need to adjust to the reality around us. Continuing to run 20%,- 40% recurring promotions simply because "things might hopefully go back to normal" doesn't strike me as the wisest long-term strategy. - yet I might be wrong here. =)

    Don't get me wrong, guys, at the end of the day, either I make enough on a service to cover my costs, invest back into the infrastructure, and earn some profit, or there's very little point in offering it.

    If it only creates work, support tickets, and operational headache while barely breaking even I rather then chose option B: just power them off and wait it out, as of today, it saves me more then I earn on a 40% recurring discount sold services.

    EDIT:

    Don't take what I wrote above as me being skeptical or trying to be an ass. I'm simply being as honest as I can.

    The reason is that I keep seeing comments across different forums from people who genuinely believe this situation will pass quickly. Yet when I look at actual sales numbers and current market pricing, they tell a very different story. ( we are also ~10 moths in a general x2-x3 price hike, that is not something normal )

    If you zoom out a little, this entire pricing game is being played by companies with very deep pockets. As long as they're willing to outspend/fight each other, manufacturers have very little incentive ( none I would say ) to lower prices in any meaningful way.

    That leaves the smaller players like us and many others to rely more heavily on the used market. And if everyone starts chasing the same DDR4 servers, enterprise SSDs, and other second-hand hardware, demand will rise... and so will prices.

    So again, I'm not trying to spread doom or end of the world here, I am simply sharing how I see the market today, based on what I'm buying, what I'm paying, and what I'm seeing firsthand.

    I just don't want people to get fooled by the smoke and mirrors you sometimes see in online discussions.

    Cheers!

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • edited July 5

    @host_c whats with the iP change? Received a ticket saying

    hy

    for SkyCluster XNova - Storage 5TB - I185 - G2 set this up on your VPS:

    New Ip and gateway

    Nothing else about when old ip will stop... kinda weird, right?

  • host_chost_c Provider
    edited July 8

    Hy there.
    193.32.X.X is getting completely repurposed, so no LE* services on that.

    new sub-net will be 185.150.X.X

    We did announce the IP change 2 moths prior, but since it is a completely manual asigment/modification and we really don't wish to leave all in the dark, we took the decision to do them 1by1 / 1 custemer at a time, hence the snail movement on that.

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • the end is nigh
    winter is coming
    brace for impact

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • host_chost_c Provider

    @Shot² said:
    the end is nigh
    winter is coming
    brace for impact

    Hmm, let's make this a bit more visual shall we?

    As for Brace for Impact, I would go with:

    and shall we add one more:

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • Guess I have to say goodbye to my sweet FAT32 special. :'(

  • HostSlickHostSlick Provider

    @host_c oke
    host-coke
    What else does c stand for B) B) B) ?

    I always asked this to myself. Please explain sir :p

  • hot cock? in the vps roosting industry of course

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • host_chost_c Provider

    Well, actually, the brand was supposed to be one of these:

    control-c
    control-v
    control-x

    But those were taken, so HOST-C was the next free in line. =) =) .

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • edited August 5

    @HostSlick said:
    I always asked this to myself. Please explain sir :p

    Will you restock your whmcs? Or professionally pivoted to peddling coke? :D

  • host_chost_c Provider

    @davide said:

    @HostSlick said:
    I always asked this to myself. Please explain sir :p

    Will you restock your whmcs? Or professionally pivoted to peddling coke? :D

    The only restock I will do in whmcs, is another billing app. =) .

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • edited August 5

    @host_c said:

    @davide said:

    @HostSlick said:
    I always asked this to myself. Please explain sir :p

    Will you restock your whmcs? Or professionally pivoted to peddling coke? :D

    The only restock I will do in whmcs, is another billing app. =) .

    No I was asking the coke peddler :D

    Haven't seen his blip in the radar since time immemorial.

  • HostSlickHostSlick Provider
    edited August 5

    @davide said:

    @host_c said:

    @davide said:

    @HostSlick said:
    I always asked this to myself. Please explain sir :p

    Will you restock your whmcs? Or professionally pivoted to peddling coke? :D

    The only restock I will do in whmcs, is another billing app. =) .

    No I was asking the coke peddler :D

    Haven't seen his blip in the radar since time immemorial.

    We dont do VPS and we only accept orders for dedicated servers in ticket.
    Stock is available, just contact for a quote. No unrealistic price requests please. We might not answer those.

    After August hundreds of dedicated servers dual gold, platinum, and eypc will be in stock as were working to restock more

  • zgatozgato Chief Idle Officer
    edited August 5

    @HostSlick said:

    @davide said:

    @host_c said:

    @davide said:

    @HostSlick said:
    I always asked this to myself. Please explain sir :p

    Will you restock your whmcs? Or professionally pivoted to peddling coke? :D

    The only restock I will do in whmcs, is another billing app. =) .

    No I was asking the coke peddler :D

    Haven't seen his blip in the radar since time immemorial.

    We dont do VPS and we only accept orders for dedicated servers in ticket.
    Stock is available, just contact for a quote. No unrealistic price requests please. We might not answer those.

    After August hundreds of dedicated servers dual gold, platinum, and eypc will be in stock as were working to restock more

    Billing tickets are also ignored right? You scammed the fuck out of a lot of people with your VPS nodes suddenly dying, ignoring all VPS-related tickets, and not giving refunds to anyone
    You should be permad here.

  • Just got the notice today. RIP to a wonderful deal! I know it's how the market is these days, though, same reason I haven't bought any hard drives in like over a year lol.

  • edited August 5

    @HostSlick said:
    We dont do VPS and we only accept orders for dedicated servers in ticket.

    There was a guy who plugged a chatbot to his VPS service helpline. No man in the booth, no fuss with petty customers.

    Food for thought.

  • Got the emails for my VPS ... :'( RIP

    Best and friendliest hosts Host-C , Hostbrr aff.

  • Rest in peace, my beautiful Host-C idlers 💔

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @Wonder_Woman said:
    Rest in peace, my beautiful Host-C idlers 💔

    And I still had the installation pending.

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @host_c my service just got renewed a few hours ago, can I get a refund or credits?

  • 460% price increase, RIP my host-c idler, it was a fun ride, good luck with future sales!!

    This space intentionally left blank

  • teamaccteamacc OG teamacc

    Yep, cancelling as we speak. Who the fuck thought "yeah you pay 13.20 usd/year now, but 70.40 usd/year seems reasonable". That's approx the increase of ram itself. I thought 1) the servers were already present 2) they contain more than just ram. What the hell.

    Hey teamacc. You're a dick. (c) Jon Biloh, 2020.

  • host_chost_c Provider

    @SocksAreComfortable said:
    Just got the notice today. RIP to a wonderful deal! I know it's how the market is these days, though, same reason I haven't bought any hard drives in like over a year lol.

    =) =)

    Good for you, we do and usually there is a +3-5% growth in each moth compared to the last one. It is a fuqing freak show.

    @imok said: @host_c my service just got renewed a few hours ago, can I get a refund or credits?

    Open a tiket, if it is within a few days, we can give a full refund.

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
    A+++ will buy again if it gets cheaper

  • LowEndSpirit - VPS Hosting and tech forum

    • Sirius B - NVME VPS - IPV6 Only - G2 (Annual Prepay special) from $12.00/yr -> $70.40/yr
    • Kepler-70 -NVME VPS- G2 (Annual Prepay Special) $22.00 -> changed to White Neptune- NVME VPS - G2) -> $70.40/year
  • I watch the drama on the ogf, oh so funny

    IMHO, nothing inherently wrong is taking place from the moral/business standpoint.
    Very few companies could [afford to] go full heroic-altruistic amidst such an economic sh*tshow.
    We low-end afficionados got a very nice toy to play with for longer than a summer; if anyone expected not to be let down at some point in favor of bankable customers, or a loss-leader-promo-vps-deal to last decades... the joke is on them. Even OVH and Online, sitting on bazillions in cash, ended up raising the price of their archaic, entry-level, long-paid-for dedis (because war fuel electricity hardware taxes blahblah).
    If @host_c expected a trove of good reviews from a bunch of cheapos, in exchange for delivering the advertised deals and being essentially problem-free... well, good luck with that. (I've only ever left 1 positive review for a vps provider... because they went beyond expectations once _and_ have kept me as a customer for 10 years now :p)

    Anyway, thanks for all the fish. :3

    Happy customer at AlexHost, AxusHost, Bakker-IT, Host-C, Ionos, Veesp + NanoKVM ftw.

  • host_chost_c Provider

    @Shot² said:
    I watch the drama on the ogf, oh so funny

    IMHO, nothing inherently wrong is taking place from the moral/business standpoint.
    Very few companies could [afford to] go full heroic-altruistic amidst such an economic sh*tshow.
    We low-end afficionados got a very nice toy to play with for longer than a summer; if anyone expected not to be let down at some point in favor of bankable customers, or a loss-leader-promo-vps-deal to last decades... the joke is on them. Even OVH and Online, sitting on bazillions in cash, ended up raising the price of their archaic, entry-level, long-paid-for dedis (because war fuel electricity hardware taxes blahblah).
    If @host_c expected a trove of good reviews from a bunch of cheapos, in exchange for delivering the advertised deals and being essentially problem-free... well, good luck with that. (I've only ever left 1 positive review for a vps provider... because they went beyond expectations once _and_ have kept me as a customer for 10 years now :p)

    Anyway, thanks for all the fish. :3

    Here is something to continue the fun:

    https://www.nodeseek.com/post-860196-1

    The benefit of not relying on a single “pond of fish” for your income is that you can take hard decisions when necessary.

    As for the expectations, no, I didn’t expect that. Still, a few positive reviews in return for all the money spent on marketing would have been nice. =) =) :p :3

    Host-C | Storage by Design | AS211462

    “If it can’t guarantee behavior under load, it doesn’t belong in production.”

  • JabJab TOP Member 2027

    LowEndSpirit - VPS Hosting and tech forum

    Scammed.

    Haven't bought a single service in VirMach Great Ryzen 2022 - 2023 Flash Sale.

  • Can I come and weep here without being laughed at?

  • I will say, this is one of the few VPSes I have that does not actually idle! I use it as both a Syncthing and Duplicacy backup target so it's been quite useful. I never needed anywhere near the full 5TB, but it worked wonderfully for the usecase.

  • WSSWSS OG Guru Meditation Error

    Literally who?

    "It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington

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