@uptime said: @vimalware would you like to kick off the "resource pool suggested pricing guidelines feedback request thread" (RPSPGFRT) ...?
So far for KVM pools we have @HostDoc with a 1 GB ram / 2 instance pool @ £4.89/m (about $6.35)
and the unadvertised KVM pool from @SMARTHOST with 2 GB ram / 5 instances @ $6.95/m
for OpenVZ resource pools we might look forward to seeing anynode and impactVPS finding their way here "real soon now" ...
Resource pools deserves a wiki entry. I am kind of busy now to write but just thought I will drop a note. I haven't had a need for them but it will be good to explain some use cases.
I have been to Mumbai once. Sector 30, Vashi, Navi Mumbai to be exact.
Stayed at the Kerala House there. I do remember paying a lot as vehicle parking fine every time we parked and dogs on the streets were huge when compared to ones in my state.
I have been to Mumbai once. Sector 30, Vashi, Navi Mumbai to be exact.
Stayed at the Kerala House there. I do remember paying a lot as vehicle parking fine every time we parked and dogs on the streets were huge when compared to ones in my state.
Yea. Traffic police is strict in Navi Mumbai. Which state r u from?
We can almost get away by parking at the sides of the national highways (There are a lot of pay and park but we like to park for free where ever possible), and drive without helmets on two wheeler's but serious offences like Speeding, DUI, Red light jumping are taken very seriously and will mostly result in licence suspension.
In my lifetime i have received only 1 ticket for parking in the side of a national highways, but got it cancelled at the traffic station as it was my first as per their records but certainly won't be the last for sure.
We kijken de toekomst positief tegemoet en mijn hond is gelukkig!
Sorry - Dutch is difficult
Even more so when you have not spoken it in 20+ years and barley remember anything beyond "lepel op mijn oor" "mess in mijn stront gaatje" etc best not translate those for people though.
Yeah, but you know, when a drill is the right tool for the job and a home tool brand out performs the pro tool in literally every single way by significant margins, the professionals start buying that instead even if it costs more per month to own.
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Along those lines, I think it would be reasonable to have a section where you can have offers of any price. I do think it makes sense to have "normal offers" and "lowend offers" be separated so it's easy to know which is which without having to actually read the offer. But I also think there is a lot of potential for "great deals" that cost more than the price cap.
Kind of, get the best of both LET and WHT. Get a broad range of offers like WHT has, but still have a strong incentive to post your lowest price stuff at below the cap so that it can get extra exposure from deal seekers.
Since this is a forum starting from scratch, if there is a time to consider such a change I think it would be now.
while I might find a few minor quibbles with some of the points you make above (as one does) ...
I would definitely agree that following these guidelines will make for a happier experience for all parties involved.
I wonder if there might be a good way to present solid translations in various languages - it might be a helpful starting point to welcome many of our bros who find this forum via baidu (etc.)
EDIT: also might be interesting if I can find a better use for https://summerhosting.com ... suggestions welcome!
I don't sweat the small quibbles. I do applied statistics in research, and as long as p < 0.05 that's good enough. I just think that as long as we can cover most key points on how to be an informed consumer, most problems can be avoided and providers can better spend the time creating better value for everyone else.
Off topic, but, p < 0.05 isn't great if you're measuring 20 possible effects, and consider it a "win" if at least one of them shows positive ; )
while I might find a few minor quibbles with some of the points you make above (as one does) ...
I would definitely agree that following these guidelines will make for a happier experience for all parties involved.
I wonder if there might be a good way to present solid translations in various languages - it might be a helpful starting point to welcome many of our bros who find this forum via baidu (etc.)
EDIT: also might be interesting if I can find a better use for https://summerhosting.com ... suggestions welcome!
I don't sweat the small quibbles. I do applied statistics in research, and as long as p < 0.05 that's good enough. I just think that as long as we can cover most key points on how to be an informed consumer, most problems can be avoided and providers can better spend the time creating better value for everyone else.
Off topic, but, p < 0.05 isn't great if you're measuring 20 possible effects, and consider it a "win" if at least one of them shows positive ; )
Measuring 20 different outcomes is a nightmare!!! Anyway, there will always be exceptions, so reducing the probability works most of the time, but it won't work all the time. Pretty much life's like that.
funkywizard said: I do think it makes sense to have "normal offers" and "lowend offers" be separated so it's easy to know which is which without having to actually read the offer.
That is already available, the only caveat is that it must be exclusive to LES, given the origins of the community I felt that was a fair compromise.
No specific price rules except they MUST be LES exclusive for at LEAST 7 days
Only registered providers may post
At least 7 days between offers
LES Exclusive offers do not count towards the general offers section post count i.e. you can make >LES exclusives as well as regular offers within the same 7 day period
LES Exclusive offers are given extra exposure on the front page of the forum and can only bee seen >by logged in users.
These offers will be moved to the standard offers section after 10 days.
funkywizard said: I do think it makes sense to have "normal offers" and "lowend offers" be separated so it's easy to know which is which without having to actually read the offer.
That is already available, the only caveat is that it must be exclusive to LES, given the origins of the community I felt that was a fair compromise.
No specific price rules except they MUST be LES exclusive for at LEAST 7 days
Only registered providers may post
At least 7 days between offers
LES Exclusive offers do not count towards the general offers section post count i.e. you can make >LES exclusives as well as regular offers within the same 7 day period
LES Exclusive offers are given extra exposure on the front page of the forum and can only bee seen >by logged in users.
These offers will be moved to the standard offers section after 10 days.
Worth having a read of the rules and info post.
Oh right, good point!
I had read that but it wasn't entirely clear to me the first time I read it.
I guess I couldn't decide if that first line meant "there are no additional price rules for this category" vs "there are no price rules for this category"
while I might find a few minor quibbles with some of the points you make above (as one does) ...
I would definitely agree that following these guidelines will make for a happier experience for all parties involved.
I wonder if there might be a good way to present solid translations in various languages - it might be a helpful starting point to welcome many of our bros who find this forum via baidu (etc.)
EDIT: also might be interesting if I can find a better use for https://summerhosting.com ... suggestions welcome!
I don't sweat the small quibbles. I do applied statistics in research, and as long as p < 0.05 that's good enough. I just think that as long as we can cover most key points on how to be an informed consumer, most problems can be avoided and providers can better spend the time creating better value for everyone else.
Off topic, but, p < 0.05 isn't great if you're measuring 20 possible effects, and consider it a "win" if at least one of them shows positive ; )
Measuring 20 different outcomes is a nightmare!!! Anyway, there will always be exceptions, so reducing the probability works most of the time, but it won't work all the time. Pretty much life's like that.
In the context of academic research, the idea of looking for any of 20 possible positive outcomes, with any having a p < 0.05, means you'll on average find one interesting result simply by chance, while the p < 0.05 lets you pretend that it's a statistically significant outcome, so long as you don't publish info about the other 19 things that showed nothing.
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@vimalware would you like to kick off the "resource pool suggested pricing guidelines feedback request thread" (RPSPGFRT) ...?
EDIT: Started the resource pool pricing feedback thread here:
https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/132/resource-pool-pricing-guidelines-feedback-wanted#latest
So far for KVM pools we have @HostDoc with a 1 GB ram / 2 instance pool @ £4.89/m (about $6.35 - normal pricing as per https://kvm.doctor/cloud/)
and the unadvertised KVM pool from @SMARTHOST with 2 GB ram / 5 instances @ $6.95/m
for OpenVZ resource pools we might look forward to seeing anynode and impactVPS finding their way here "real soon now" ...
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Resource pools deserves a wiki entry. I am kind of busy now to write but just thought I will drop a note. I haven't had a need for them but it will be good to explain some use cases.
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@poisson - I made a page here https://lowend.wiki/Resource_Pool - currently just contains a brief definition to get things started:
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oho! A wild @SpeedBus appears!
and is that - could it be? A @MikePT?
looks like we might soon have a quorum for the forum.
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Yes, I baited him.
@UltraVPS in the house?
EXCITE
@cam is here
Where from in India ?
he is from the city
Navi Mumbai. Wby?
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@Abdullah you should start a hosting company, its your destiny
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BF/CM - Buyer Beware. Conduct your own due diligence on the sustainability of the deals presented here as well as the provider's track record.
or IndianHatch
I have been to Mumbai once. Sector 30, Vashi, Navi Mumbai to be exact.
Stayed at the Kerala House there. I do remember paying a lot as vehicle parking fine every time we parked and dogs on the streets were huge when compared to ones in my state.
NaviMumbaiHatch
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Im 18 & I dont know how to do that. Though I am researching what I need to pursue.?
But I really like that idea
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Yea. Traffic police is strict in Navi Mumbai. Which state r u from?
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@UltraVPS tag sorted as you validated your domain control.
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QuickPacket spotted - welcome @qps !
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.> @Abdullah said:
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@cybertech ^ keep an eye on this one
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We can almost get away by parking at the sides of the national highways (There are a lot of pay and park but we like to park for free where ever possible), and drive without helmets on two wheeler's but serious offences like Speeding, DUI, Red light jumping are taken very seriously and will mostly result in licence suspension.
In my lifetime i have received only 1 ticket for parking in the side of a national highways, but got it cancelled at the traffic station as it was my first as per their records but certainly won't be the last for sure.
@Clouvider is here to spread DA
Welcome! And not only that - see Facebook / Twitter for some hints over the next hours :-)
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@hostsailor has made a Port of call for unloading deals at LES.
@Clouvider de toekomst is gelukkig een so is mijn hond!
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We kijken de toekomst positief tegemoet en mijn hond is gelukkig!
Sorry - Dutch is difficult
But that's not all
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Even more so when you have not spoken it in 20+ years and barley remember anything beyond "lepel op mijn oor" "mess in mijn stront gaatje" etc
best not translate those for people though.
I know you have worked hard on it, I just wish it was ready last month so your customers could have BF/CM'ed the crap out of it!
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Hey guys
We are here now, Thanks to @Rahul
Xeon E-22XX is in very short supply unfortunately, https://www.crn.com/news/components-peripherals/intel-ramps-up-foundries-as-cpu-supply-remains-extremely-tight- 3 months waiting in the queue...
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Intel Anything ...
Ryzen 3rd gen Threadripper
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When AMD releases server CPUs on this platform we'll switch immediately. Epyc will also be on offer in these locations
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Yeah, but you know, when a drill is the right tool for the job and a home tool brand out performs the pro tool in literally every single way by significant margins, the professionals start buying that instead
even if it costs more per month to own.
https://inceptionhosting.com
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Welcome @Clouvider!
Amitz, a very stable genius (it's true!) and Grand Rectumfier of the official LESLOS® (LES League of Shitposters).
Certified braindead since 1974 and still perfectly happy.
Hello hello hello hello! welcome @funkywizard and @ioflood_michael_b
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Thanks! Glad to be here.
Along those lines, I think it would be reasonable to have a section where you can have offers of any price. I do think it makes sense to have "normal offers" and "lowend offers" be separated so it's easy to know which is which without having to actually read the offer. But I also think there is a lot of potential for "great deals" that cost more than the price cap.
Kind of, get the best of both LET and WHT. Get a broad range of offers like WHT has, but still have a strong incentive to post your lowest price stuff at below the cap so that it can get extra exposure from deal seekers.
Since this is a forum starting from scratch, if there is a time to consider such a change I think it would be now.
Off topic, but, p < 0.05 isn't great if you're measuring 20 possible effects, and consider it a "win" if at least one of them shows positive ; )
Measuring 20 different outcomes is a nightmare!!! Anyway, there will always be exceptions, so reducing the probability works most of the time, but it won't work all the time. Pretty much life's like that.
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That is already available, the only caveat is that it must be exclusive to LES, given the origins of the community I felt that was a fair compromise.
Worth having a read of the rules and info post.
https://inceptionhosting.com
Please do not use the PM system here for Inception Hosting support issues.
Oh right, good point!
I had read that but it wasn't entirely clear to me the first time I read it.
I guess I couldn't decide if that first line meant "there are no additional price rules for this category" vs "there are no price rules for this category"
In the context of academic research, the idea of looking for any of 20 possible positive outcomes, with any having a p < 0.05, means you'll on average find one interesting result simply by chance, while the p < 0.05 lets you pretend that it's a statistically significant outcome, so long as you don't publish info about the other 19 things that showed nothing.
Pretty far off topic tho : P