The Future of NATVPS UK and Micronode

TL;DR
NatVPS and Micronode will stop providing the Micronode resource pooling platform and VPS’ from January 1st 2026. (Yes I know it’s over a year away).

As our services are offered annually I am giving as much notice as possible before renewals.

This is not a topic that I wanted to write but as always I want to be as transparent as possible especially as Black Friday renewals are coming up shortly.

Natvps and Micronode are projects that I started back in 2021 to keep myself busy during the 2nd half of the pandemic lockdowns. I never imagined that 3 years later we’d have gathered so many great clients, moved away from the mainstream VPS hosting platforms (WHMCS, solusvm etc) to a completely custom billing, support and management panel with servers in 9 locations worldwide.

Whilst the project has not been a great success financially we have managed to provide a fairly solid service for very little money giving almost anybody the opportunity to have servers in multiple locations and the ability to setup high availability.

The project has and continues to take up a huge amount of my time both in terms of support and maintenance and at this point in my life I need to spend more time with Family and actually have some downtime rather than working around the clock.

I’m not deadpooling the project or going out with a bunch of drama, Im simply stopping renewals from January 1st 2025 and the service will be retired on January 1st 2026.

This is not financially motivated and the servers are all on 12 month contracts - this isn’t an exit scam or a way to get a final chunk of money from renewals.

Black Friday Renewals:
Our Black Friday renewal reductions will still take place - credits will start from £6 and will as always be valid for 12 months although this time they cannot be extended past the 12 month mark.

The Black Friday reductions will be in place from the 24th until the 30th December.

An email will follow for current customers and we will make every effort to assist in enabling you to migrate.

If any existing providers want to continue to project after January 1st 2026 I’m open to a conversation.

Comments

  • Pm me let me know what you wish to do

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • Thanks for the early heads up

    i had fun with those vms and used as a wireguard vpn's .. they worked when i needed them :)

    lets see if i renew one last time.

    but all the best wishes to you/family and upcoming projects.

    <3

  • @ehab said:
    Thanks for the early heads up

    i had fun with those vms and used as a wireguard vpn's .. they worked when i needed them :)

    lets see if i renew one last time.

    but all the best wishes to you/family and upcoming projects.

    <3

    You better renew :wink:

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • We have decided not to purchase another Micronode credit, even if it's £6 dealz on Black Friday.
    microLXC now allows creating multiple containers with a cap on total RAM, so that Micronode has become redundant for us.
    Moreover, the /128 address space and outdated OpenVZ technology crippled the usefulness of our Micronode account.

    @yoursunny said:
    Prediction:
    Come November, many £5~10 dealz recipients will become former customer of MicroNode.

    With the discontinuation of Micronode platform, we'd like to see its source code released under BSD license.

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  • Great service in 2022, sad to hear the discontinuation. Farewell.

    MicroLXC is lovable.

  • Sad to see you go, thanks for the time it lasted. I had fun with the somewhat experimental way of idling my money, before actually spinning up a container and have fun with that in its own right.

    It is a pity to see that low cost just does not pay enough to keep it viable to offer ultra low spec points of presence world wide.

    @world in general: which replacement would you suggest?

  • Sad to see it go, one of the remaining NAT providers.

  • So he states it will run until Jan of 26 and you bail?

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • how about the refunds ? I think I renewed 2 weeks ago for another year, will you automatically refund or do we have to open a dispute via PayPal ?

  • ialexpwialexpw ProviderOG
    edited November 2024

    @cold said:
    how about the refunds ? I think I renewed 2 weeks ago for another year, will you automatically refund or do we have to open a dispute via PayPal ?

    It will continue to work as normal, it's being retired 2026 so the full year will be usable. I don't see how a PayPal dispute would ever be an answer unless they deadpooled with no contact...

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  • @cold said:
    how about the refunds ? I think I renewed 2 weeks ago for another year, will you automatically refund or do we have to open a dispute via PayPal ?

    easy big boy
    James is cool

  • @ehab said:

    @cold said:
    how about the refunds ? I think I renewed 2 weeks ago for another year, will you automatically refund or do we have to open a dispute via PayPal ?

    easy big boy
    James is cool

    im also cool, but since he didn't mention it, I would like to know, in the last years on LeS and LeT saw other cool guys....

  • edited November 2024

    @cold said:

    @ehab said:

    @cold said:
    how about the refunds ? I think I renewed 2 weeks ago for another year, will you automatically refund or do we have to open a dispute via PayPal ?

    easy big boy
    James is cool

    im also cool, but since he didn't mention it, I would like to know, in the last years on LeS and LeT saw other cool guys....

    Your service is valid for the lifetime of the resources you paid for. We are simply stopping renewals from next year and you will not be able to renew next round.

    You will receive the service that you have paid for.

    Edit: to make this really clear - we are not stopping service until 2026 over one year from now.

  • I am sure your intentions are pure. But it would be great to have new posts (linking to this) re iterating every couple months.

    People tend to forget things and it's a good reminder.

    Plus even now folks tend not to read and comprehend that your services are retiring in 2026 instead of 2025 in a couple months.

    Good luck 👍

  • Thanks for your service! I've also had some services with you, and was having lots of fun tinkering around. Small NAT services are so much fun, really :D

    If that's possible, can I request/submit a personal data removal ticket, as I don't have an active service anymore?

    Good luck with life and your family. Hope you'll be sticking around and props for the ample notice :)

  • @localhost said:
    I am sure your intentions are pure. But it would be great to have new posts (linking to this) re iterating every couple months.

    People tend to forget things and it's a good reminder.

    Plus even now folks tend not to read and comprehend that your services are retiring in 2026 instead of 2025 in a couple months.

    Good luck 👍

    There will be a message in the console and renewals will not be possible so there’s no risk of people paying for a service that will be discontinued.

    Happy to remind here every few months too.

    @Ympker said:
    Thanks for your service! I've also had some services with you, and was having lots of fun tinkering around. Small NAT services are so much fun, really :D

    If that's possible, can I request/submit a personal data removal ticket, as I don't have an active service anymore?

    Good luck with life and your family. Hope you'll be sticking around and props for the ample notice :)

    Sure, just DM me the email you used to signup here and if your account is still there I’ll remove it. We remove stale accounts every 12 months so it may have already been removed.

  • Just to let everyone know and give a heads up, Micronode is not going anywhere. You can renew and keep your services.

    Don't jump ship :wink:

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @AuroraZero said:
    Just to let everyone know and give a heads up, Micronode is not going anywhere. You can renew and keep your services.

    Don't jump ship :wink:

    Yeti FTW!

  • FritzFritz Behlnd you

    @Micronode I forgot that I have an account with you. Will send you DM to delete my account as well.

  • @Fritz said:
    @Micronode I forgot that I have an account with you. Will send you DM to delete my account as well.

    Just drop me a DM or open a ticket and we’ll take care of it

  • @AuroraZero said: Don't jump ship :wink:

    <3

    Might want to include something in the OP/title too.

  • Been a good run!

    I got in on this 2022 black friday deal: https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/111477#Comment_111477 (Location: Under the couch, spare room, CPU: Single core, Intel 486dx, Memory: 32mb, Disk: 512mb CF Card)

    It's still running. Only 112 days of uptime at the moment, but before the reboot it was at 611 days. Remarkably stable little 486dx! I've used it for a remote borg backup.

  • @JBB said:
    Location: Under the couch, spare room, CPU: Single core, Intel 486dx, Memory: 32mb, Disk: 512mb CF Card

    We got a Raspberry Pi 2 for "BGP session" in 2023.
    The BGP session never worked and the device died after two months.

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  • Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

  • @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

  • edited November 2024

    @Micronode said: however the email does make this fairly clear:

    Oh, indeed. Sorry, my brain is already in black friday mode.
    Still good to know the continuous mails are to be expected for now.

  • @Micronode said:

    @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

    Talking of Black Friday Period... Any chance of special offers on credits?

  • @wankel said:

    @Micronode said:

    @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

    Talking of Black Friday Period... Any chance of special offers on credits?

    They are currently reduced on the panel 😉

  • @Micronode said:

    @wankel said:

    @Micronode said:

    @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

    Talking of Black Friday Period... Any chance of special offers on credits?

    They are currently reduced on the panel 😉

    Any chance I can get an invite?

  • @skorous said:

    @Micronode said:

    @wankel said:

    @Micronode said:

    @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

    Talking of Black Friday Period... Any chance of special offers on credits?

    They are currently reduced on the panel 😉

    Any chance I can get an invite?

    Shit sorry man i forgot to mention that. Go ahead spank me for it I deserve it.

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • LOL ... no can do sir. my girlfriend gets jealous.

  • @skorous said:

    @Micronode said:

    @wankel said:

    @Micronode said:

    @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

    Talking of Black Friday Period... Any chance of special offers on credits?

    They are currently reduced on the panel 😉

    Any chance I can get an invite?

    I’ll DM you

  • @AuroraZero said:

    @skorous said:

    @Micronode said:

    @wankel said:

    @Micronode said:

    @benz said:
    Apparently I keep receiving 'Resource Expired' mails despite ordering resources again until the previous pack is past it's week of grace period?

    I do have a fix for this however the email does make this fairly clear:

    If you have already purchased additional resources please disregard this email.

    I’m not deploying the fixes until after the Black Friday period as I don’t want to add any risk.

    Talking of Black Friday Period... Any chance of special offers on credits?

    They are currently reduced on the panel 😉

    Any chance I can get an invite?

    Shit sorry man i forgot to mention that. Go ahead spank me for it I deserve it.

    Haha I was holding off posting anything as I still have signups locked whilst we work stuff out. Just add that it’s only valid for existing clients.

  • I am curious why the Resources Large plan is more expensive than the Resources Small plan? The Large offers 1024MB for £25, while the Small provides 512MB for £12.
    2 Resource Small plan cheaper than 1 Resource Large plan?

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  • @go626201 said:
    I am curious why the Resources Large plan is more expensive than the Resources Small plan? The Large offers 1024MB for £25, while the Small provides 512MB for £12.
    2 Resource Small plan cheaper than 1 Resource Large plan?

    There’s no logic behind it, it’s just the prices I yolo’d in when reduced it for Black Friday. Buying more smaller resources actually gets you more bandwidth too so overall it’s a better deal. You can stack them in the cart.

  • Thanks for the ride.

    I can't do any pushups, but I'll second the motion for open sourcing the panel. Worst that comes of it is maybe it's used on a resume, right?

    Either way, it's been fun!

  • @rockinmusicgv said:
    Thanks for the ride.

    I can't do any pushups, but I'll second the motion for open sourcing the panel. Worst that comes of it is maybe it's used on a resume, right?

    Either way, it's been fun!

    Did you read the part where it's not going away?

  • I will say this once and just once. The panel WILL NOT EVER BE OPENSOURCE... You don't expect BuyVM to OS Stallion and you should not do it here.

    Bitch, Complain, Moan all you want it will not happen.

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • @AuroraZero said:
    I will say this once and just once. The panel WILL NOT EVER BE OPENSOURCE... You don't expect BuyVM to OS Stallion and you should not do it here.

    Bitch, Complain, Moan all you want it will not happen.

    Buzzkill.

  • @skorous said:

    @AuroraZero said:
    I will say this once and just once. The panel WILL NOT EVER BE OPENSOURCE... You don't expect BuyVM to OS Stallion and you should not do it here.

    Bitch, Complain, Moan all you want it will not happen.

    Buzzkill.

    Sick of the crapola. Too much time and effort involved in making it. I am just getting up to speed on it and how it works so I have an idea and the answer is no.

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • ( chuckle ) Just messin' 'round. Hopefully no offense given.

  • @skorous said:
    ( chuckle ) Just messin' 'round. Hopefully no offense given.

    Nope none taken man. Did you get a Node account?

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • Yes indeed. I got some credits but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Setting up some of my other treasures and troubleshooting a strange DNS issue has kept me occupied so far. Looking forward to it though.

  • @skorous said:
    Yes indeed. I got some credits but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Setting up some of my other treasures and troubleshooting a strange DNS issue has kept me occupied so far. Looking forward to it though.

    Might have another opportunity for you PM me tomorrow after you get done playing around.

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @AuroraZero said:

    @skorous said:
    ( chuckle ) Just messin' 'round. Hopefully no offense given.

    Nope none taken man. Did you get a Node account?

    Oh that's what you meant.

  • Thanks for the heads up, I had completely forgotten I had a micronode server till today (life issues, s***ide attempt, had not checked email in months)

    Grateful for the service even if I didn't end up making decent usage of it. Wishing you all the best

  • @tarasis said:
    Thanks for the heads up, I had completely forgotten I had a micronode server till today (life issues, s***ide attempt, had not checked email in months)

    Grateful for the service even if I didn't end up making decent usage of it. Wishing you all the best

    It's not going anywhere YetiNode is picking it up.

    The Yeti has left the building.

  • It's been two weeks since my 1-credit has expired.
    Currently, all four of my instances are still up and running.
    When will they be terminated?

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  • @yoursunny said:
    It's been two weeks since my 1-credit has expired.
    Currently, all four of my instances are still up and running.
    When will they be terminated?

    Defaults termination is 30 days but as requested I have terminated them now for you.

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