PHP Friends Special: 2 cores, 10GB RAM, 80 GB SSD, 1 Gbit/s for 6,50€/month

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  • WSSWSS OG Guru Meditation Error

    Shit. I kinda want this. I have no use for it, but that's.. nice.

    "It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington

  • @WSS said:
    Shit. I kinda want this. I have no use for it, but that's.. nice.

    I think it is limited to 2TB/month if that saves you from spending on idling but still...it's pretty dope.

  • WSSWSS OG Guru Meditation Error

    @Ympker said:

    @WSS said:
    Shit. I kinda want this. I have no use for it, but that's.. nice.

    I think it is limited to 2TB/month if that saves you from spending on idling but still...it's pretty dope.

    Thanks. I give @Dedispec enough shit about the 10TB I don't even use. I'll pass.

    "It's a hard life- to be a stick insect." - Karl Pilkington

  • Offers from PHP-Friends are always tempting :)

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @cybertech this one's for you mate.

    (hope all okay!)

  • @vyas said:
    @cybertech this one's for you mate.

    You should try to be more understanding -- he's trying to recover from his VPS addiction ;)

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @angstrom said:

    @vyas said:
    @cybertech this one's for you mate.

    You should try to be more understanding -- he's trying to recover from his VPS addiction ;)

    Who isn't? ;)

  • What about those who have a dedi addiction?

  • @saibal said:
    What about those who have a dedi addiction?

    https://en.metadedi.net/

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365
    edited March 2020

    @vyas said:
    @cybertech this one's for you mate.

    (hope all okay!)

    Thanks mate.

    Not ok yet , hopefully sorted soon fingers crossed.

    Still holding on to their schnupperspecial 2019, 2630v4

    Decent geekbench4 of about 4400 (4900 when new). Recommended.

    Btw are their special deals transferrable?

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • One of the ironies of life and shit and everything...

    Php_friends had a network failure after the sale was announced...

    On the other site Tim (P_f) and Avoro both posted updates, which was helpful

  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    How does this offer compare to their regular NVMe/ Xeon Gold servers?

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  • edited March 2020

    @iandk said:
    How does this offer compare to their regular NVMe/ Xeon Gold servers?

    Different term (3 month, not 1), worse CPU and much worse i/o. Similar good network and support responsiveness. And ofc the price is lower. ;)

  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    I think their normal vServer S SSD G3 is a better deal

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  • Seems quite cheap - esp with the 2 dedi cores. Depending on interpretation of the dedi part I guess...like if you cant run them 100% that's amazing value

  • Vcores but still very good. Thing is when I need more cpu than a typical decent vps gives, I want lots of cores and usually lots of disk space (like TB's). So I'm still happiest with a cheap dedi. It would be interesting to figure out some kind of product that allowed prolonged bursting at high core count but was much cheaper per month than high end cloud servers.

  • @webcraft said:

    @iandk said:
    How does this offer compare to their regular NVMe/ Xeon Gold servers?

    Different term (3 month, not 1), worse CPU and much worse i/o. Similar good network and support responsiveness. And ofc the price is lower. ;)

    Bear in mind that the immediately advertised monthly prices for their regular servers are for a contract of 12 months. If you want the freedom of a contract for one month, then the monthly prices are (mostly) one euro higher.

    So, for example, vServer S SSD G3 costs 7,99 € / month for a contract of 12 months and costs 8,99 € / month for a contract of one month.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @webcraft said:
    support responsiveness

    Do you really get faster replies from them? My experience contacting their support has NOT been great. Waited for at least 20hrs (more or less) to get a reply from them.

  • edited March 2020

    @Chalipa said:

    @webcraft said:
    support responsiveness

    Do you really get faster replies from them? My experience contacting their support has NOT been great. Waited for at least 20hrs (more or less) to get a reply from them.

    My experience with their support has also been positive, but I could imagine that if one contacts them about a non-urgent issue on a weekend or holiday, then it may take them a day or more to reply.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @vncoupon said:
    10Gb RAM, Good!

    Pretty much the only thing making the offer worth it imo. If you want it really decent, go with their G3 for +2,50€/M.

  • Has anyone bought it and can provide a benchmark? Would be nice.. Preferably yabs.sh ^^

  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    Ugh, they just increased the prices for their G3 servers.

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  • @iandk said:
    Ugh, they just increased the prices for their G3 servers.

    Ouch. Increased demand?

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • That is a steep bump in price

  • @vyas said:
    That is a steep bump in price

    If I recall well, early last autumn, they raised the raised the prices to these, and then they reduced them by crossing out the raised prices. As far as I can remember, these prices are the raised prices from early last autumn.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @schnafi said:
    Has anyone bought it and can provide a benchmark? Would be nice.. Preferably yabs.sh ^^

    Here we go

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    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2020-02-10

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

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    Mi 25. Mär 14:58:26 CET 2020

    Basic System Information:

    Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v4 @ 2.20GHz
    CPU cores : 2 @ 2199.998 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 9.8Gi
    Swap : 0B
    Disk : 79G

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):

    Block Size 4kb (IOPS) 64kb (IOPS)
    Read 159.97 MB/s (39.9k) 1.34 GB/s (20.9k)
    Write 160.39 MB/s (40.0k) 1.34 GB/s (21.0k)
    Total 320.37 MB/s (80.0k) 2.69 GB/s (42.0k)
    Block Size 512kb (IOPS) 1mb (IOPS)
    ------ ----- ---- --- ----
    Read 1.80 GB/s (3.5k) 1.68 GB/s (1.6k)
    Write 1.90 GB/s (3.7k) 1.79 GB/s (1.7k)
    Total 3.70 GB/s (7.2k) 3.48 GB/s (3.4k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Bouygues Telecom | Paris, FR (10G) | 671 Mbits/sec | 756 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 653 Mbits/sec | 722 Mbits/sec
    WorldStream | The Netherlands (10G) | 690 Mbits/sec | busy
    wilhelm.tel | Hamburg, DE (10G) | 680 Mbits/sec | 787 Mbits/sec
    Biznet | Bogor, Indonesia (1G) | 653 Mbits/sec | 59.1 Mbits/sec
    Hostkey | Moscow, RU (1G) | 710 Mbits/sec | 593 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 684 Mbits/sec | 464 Mbits/sec
    Airstream Communications | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G) | 699 Mbits/sec | 372 Mbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric | Fremont, CA, US (10G) | 699 Mbits/sec | 275 Mbits/sec

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Bouygues Telecom | Paris, FR (10G) | 462 Mbits/sec | 773 Mbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 457 Mbits/sec | 702 Mbits/sec
    WorldStream | The Netherlands (10G) | 469 Mbits/sec | 793 Mbits/sec
    wilhelm.tel | Hamburg, DE (10G) | 489 Mbits/sec | 761 Mbits/sec
    Airstream Communications | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G) | 422 Mbits/sec | 378 Mbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric | Fremont, CA, US (10G) | 407 Mbits/sec | 307 Mbits/sec

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 483
    Multi Core | 851
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/1571515

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  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    I'm not really happy with the VM, it feels pretty slow overall.
    Especially the IO and CPU performance.

    My 3$ Hetzner Cloud VM is much faster.

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  • @iandk said:
    I'm not really happy with the VM, it feels pretty slow overall.
    Especially the IO and CPU performance.

    My 3$ Hetzner Cloud VM is much faster.

    You right! I made a bad decision when going with this provider. Leaving it idle until expired.

  • @sonic said:

    @iandk said:
    I'm not really happy with the VM, it feels pretty slow overall.
    Especially the IO and CPU performance.

    My 3$ Hetzner Cloud VM is much faster.

    You right! I made a bad decision when going with this provider. Leaving it idle until expired.

    Me too, really disappointed!

  • edited April 2020

    @Chalipa said:

    @sonic said:

    @iandk said:
    I'm not really happy with the VM, it feels pretty slow overall.
    Especially the IO and CPU performance.

    My 3$ Hetzner Cloud VM is much faster.

    You right! I made a bad decision when going with this provider. Leaving it idle until expired.

    Me too, really disappointed!

    Guys, I understand, but at the same time, bear in mind that this is older-generation equipment. I think that this offer is/was comparable to their offer at the end of October ( their "Schnupperspecial": https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd/vserver-schnupperspecial-2019-ssd-g2 ). You get an older-generation VPS with very decent specs for a very decent price. No, it's not a Xeon Gold, nor is it NVMe, but these wouldn't have been offered at this price.

    (In any case, the offer is now over!)

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    Their new monthly pricing is pretty uninteresting in my opinion.
    They should also add a smaller model, with something like 4GB RAM

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  • mobilemobile Retired

    Yeah, keep asking for stupid prices and get hostdoc'd all over again

  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    Thank you for this useful contribution

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  • I'm surprised people are complaining about this, since it got good reports on the other forum, and is comparably priced and spec'd to a similar Netcup product that is well regarded, I think. I might be confused though. 10GB of ram is a lot.

  • iandkiandk ProviderOG

    Sure, but I'm missing a smaller vps in their lineup.
    Not everyone need's that amount of RAM.

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  • Well, the complaint about this vps is slow cpu and i/o. That's the part that I was a bit surprised by. Though yeah, 10gb of ram etc. at 6.5e/m is hard to expect much from.

  • @willie said:
    Well, the complaint about this vps is slow cpu and i/o. That's the part that I was a bit surprised by. Though yeah, 10gb of ram etc. at 6.5e/m is hard to expect much from.

    The problem is that people are suddenly no longer content with an Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 / v4. They want a Xeon Gold, or if possible, a Ryzen or Epyc. And they want this at a bargain price.

    In addition, plain SSD is no longer good enough -- everyone wants NVMe. And at a bargain price.

    I have PHP-Friends' Schnupperspecial (from October; I gave the old link above), and beyond a couple of network incidents, I've been very pleased with it.

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • @angstrom said:
    I have PHP-Friends' Schnupperspecial (from October; I gave the old link above), and beyond a couple of network incidents, I've been very pleased with it.

    Me too, it’s one of the most consistent vm’s I’ve got. Rock solid. I’ve had some problems with it though, low IO and lots of steal time. Sent them an email and Tim migrated me to another server. Problem solved. Probably some very noisy neighbors on my first node.

    I think most people don’t realize that those Ryzen ‘fair share’ cpu with high clock speeds, NVMe and a bit of RAM cater a different part of the market. Especially when the provider offers them on leased hardware. Looks good on benches though.

  • YmpkerYmpker OG
    edited April 2020

    @angstrom said:

    @willie said:
    Well, the complaint about this vps is slow cpu and i/o. That's the part that I was a bit surprised by. Though yeah, 10gb of ram etc. at 6.5e/m is hard to expect much from.

    The problem is that people are suddenly no longer content with an Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 / v4. They want a Xeon Gold, or if possible, a Ryzen or Epyc. And they want this at a bargain price.

    In addition, plain SSD is no longer good enough -- everyone wants NVMe. And at a bargain price.

    I have PHP-Friends' Schnupperspecial (from October; I gave the old link above), and beyond a couple of network incidents, I've been very pleased with it.

    The moment when 80% of these people will find out that they'd be just fine with a normal SSD and that good old E5 :)

    My last VPS was a NAT VPS and I could still do a lot on it. That E5 can't be so bad, really. But that LE spirit kinda got lost along the way I fear. Well, it was kept for budget prices but that's it.

  • I see, the Netcup root servers use Xeon Gold 6140/6230, though I wonder how much real speed difference there is from the E5 v3/v4 for most apps. The cpu frequency is similar.

  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    Got the schnupperspecial which is excellent for the price.

    Problem with CPU is that it's not really dedicated. Compute power drops over time as it gets more crowded. So it's more like unlimited boost use.

    I/O wise the node I'm on has been consistently superb.

    In my experience with various Gold vpses the I/O seem to be much better.

    However all pale in comparison with new ryzens/epycs.

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

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