mrVM - The short (long) story behind the lack of visits to LES and the future......

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  • @SGraf said: However no change, is without its drawbacks, this means that the support for tun/tap interfaces is going away.

    Does that mean it's no longer possible to set up an OpenVPN / Wireguard server on the LXC containers?

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    @tbnuser said:

    @SGraf said: However no change, is without its drawbacks, this means that the support for tun/tap interfaces is going away.

    Does that mean it's no longer possible to set up an OpenVPN / Wireguard server on the LXC containers?

    That is my current working theory.

    Wireguard requires a kernel module (that would need to be loaded on the host) as far as i am aware. This also would not work with the ovz6/7 servers from before.

    openvpn requires tun/tap as far as i am aware. - so i dont think that would work.

    Shadowsocks should work as far as i am aware.

    sshuttle ( https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle ) should work.

    Pretty sure there are others.

    All of the current clients can raise a ticket.... I'm happy to supply a lxc based vps for testing - So we can get a list of things going that work out of the box. When i have worked thru all the other items (long list) - i am happy to look into feature requests.

  • @SGraf said:

    Wireguard requires a kernel module (that would need to be loaded on the host) as far as i am aware. This also would not work with the ovz6/7 servers from before.

    There is a Go based userspace version that would've worked but it still requires a tun device.

    Shadowsocks should work as far as i am aware.

    This will work since it doesn't require a tun device. It's just SOCKS with some crypto attached.

    Re: closures, so there were eight US locations and it's going down to four? NY / MIA / LAX /ATL. Is that right?

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited November 2023

    @skorous said:
    Re: closures, so there were eight US locations and it's going down to four? NY / MIA / LAX /ATL. Is that right?

    almost....... NY/MIA/LAX are dead since NexusBytes has disappeared...

    ATL/SEA/WV/HILLS/ASH where the US locations when i started taking control of things in September.
    Most of those have not been advertised a lot. Therefore they also do not have a lot of users. (And of those a a good percentage just picked them up as part of a bundle).

    In the future there will be two US locations (KC,+1 More...stay tuned...for updated...)
    I am also looking into doing a Canadian location as that would work well with some of my other plans for the future.
    ( already in talks with a few people regarding colocation options for .ca)

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    Update: 2023-11-21:

    • Discontinued Servers: Almost finished on scheduling cancellations/...
    • Benefits for existing MrVM Clients: I have Posted/pinned a 35% discount code in the Client Area. I realize "Black Friday" is getting closer and i wanted to do something for you. Please do not share this code in public.
    • PayPal: Will be added back on Wednesday or Thursday this week.
  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited November 2023

    @SGraf said: Benefits for existing MrVM Clients: I have Posted/pinned a 35% discount code in the Client Area. I realize "Black Friday" is getting closer and i wanted to do something for you. Please do not share this code in public.

    So does that mean you're going to send me something juicy for the LES BF mega-thread ?

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited November 2023

    @FrankZ said:

    @SGraf said: Benefits for existing MrVM Clients: I have Posted/pinned a 35% discount code in the Client Area. I realize "Black Friday" is getting closer and i wanted to do something for you. Please do not share this code in public.

    So does that mean you're going to send me something juicy for the LES BF mega-thread ?

    For MrVM: Not very likely, at least not for lxc. However i wanted to do something for the existing Users.

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG

    @SGraf said:

    @FrankZ said:

    @SGraf said: Benefits for existing MrVM Clients: I have Posted/pinned a 35% discount code in the Client Area. I realize "Black Friday" is getting closer and i wanted to do something for you. Please do not share this code in public.

    So does that mean you're going to send me something juicy for the LES BF mega-thread ?

    For MrVM: Not very likely, at least not for lxc. However i wanted to do something for the existing Users.

  • @SGraf When should we look for stock to hit for US locations? Also, you had talked about a possible Canadian location. Still a possibility? Any chance it'll launch before the end of the year?

  • @SGraf said:
    Update: 2023-11-21:

    • Discontinued Servers: Almost finished on scheduling cancellations/...
    • Benefits for existing MrVM Clients: I have Posted/pinned a 35% discount code in the Client Area. I realize "Black Friday" is getting closer and i wanted to do something for you. Please do not share this code in public.
    • PayPal: Will be added back on Wednesday or Thursday this week.

    Finally migrated all my existing services elsewhere, but will the discount code expire and what other locations will be in place for LXC?

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited November 2023

    @skorous said:
    @SGraf When should we look for stock to hit for US locations? Also, you had talked about a possible Canadian location. Still a possibility? Any chance it'll launch before the end of the year?

    That would be the plan at the moment. However we'll see what happens ;)

  • @wcypierre said:

    Finally migrated all my existing services elsewhere, but will the discount code expire and what other locations will be in place for LXC?

    If you log in to the ClientUI you'll see that it does expire.

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    @wcypierre said:
    will the discount code expire and what other locations will be in place for LXC?

    The code will remain usable until the end of the year, as stated in the message in the client area.
    After that it cannot be used when placing an order.

    @wcypierre said:
    what other locations will be in place for LXC?

    One step at a time. I prefer not to "over-promise" in this regard. I'd rather have some excitement when stuff is ready.

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited November 2023

    update 2023-11-22:

    • PayPal Payments are getting accepted again.
  • In case anyone else was wondering about Wireguard without TUN/TAP: I was able to make it work using wiretap.

    Here is how to configure it (replace SERVER_IP with your NAT IP and SERVER_PORT with forwarded port):

    # Generate server and client config
    ./wiretap configure --routes 0.0.0.0/0 --outbound --endpoint SERVER_IP:SERVER_PORT --simple
    
    # Run server inside container
    ./wiretap serve -f wiretap_server.conf --simple --port SERVER_PORT
    
  • edited November 2023

    @SGraf said:
    However no change, is without its drawbacks, this means that the support for tun/tap interfaces is going away.

    Does anyone happen to know it Tailscale can work without TUN/TAP?
    EDIT: Nevermind, apparently one can use userspace-networking instead. :)

  • @SGraf said: However i wanted to do something for the existing Users.

    How about not kicking us out? :heart:

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited November 2023

    @Janevski said:

    @SGraf said: However i wanted to do something for the existing Users.

    How about not kicking us out? :heart:

    I really would love not to "kick anyone out".... At the same time, Its not feasible to keep some locations.

    As an Example: One location had about 15 to 20 users paying an average of 5 euros (after the adjustment) per year, whereas operating said location would cost about a minimum of 30 per month for the server+panel....

  • @SGraf said:

    @Janevski said:

    @SGraf said: However i wanted to do something for the existing Users.

    How about not kicking us out? :heart:

    I really would love not to "kick anyone out".... At the same time, Its not feasible to keep some locations.

    As an Example: One location had about 15 to 20 users paying an average of 5 euros (after the adjustment) per year, whereas operating said location would cost about a minimum of 30 per month for the server+panel....

    Yes, but instead of, we are closing the location, you have been kicked out mail, you could offer a migration at a different location at a more expensive price, naturally.

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    @Janevski said:

    @SGraf said:

    @Janevski said:

    @SGraf said: However i wanted to do something for the existing Users.

    How about not kicking us out? :heart:

    I really would love not to "kick anyone out".... At the same time, Its not feasible to keep some locations.

    As an Example: One location had about 15 to 20 users paying an average of 5 euros (after the adjustment) per year, whereas operating said location would cost about a minimum of 30 per month for the server+panel....

    Yes, but instead of, we are closing the location, you have been kicked out mail, you could offer a migration at a different location at a more expensive price, naturally.

    I have evaluated going the "migration" route. But migrating an old OVZ6 to a modern LXC with a big gap in kernel-Userland versions/... really isn't a solid plan.

    So I have given everyone affected account-credit for the time they cannot use AND some lead time (more than a month) to pick up a replacement service+transfer their files.

  • @DuMOHsmol said: I was able to make it work using wiretap.

    Thanks so much for testing! Makes me a lot happier now that I know that I can still find a use for my NZ NAT once it gets downgraded upgraded!

    Anyways, Zappiehost's NZ LXC containers support openvpn, so hope that it's on the roadmap to add TAP/TUN for the NAT slots here too.

  • Any BF offer?

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    @htgy said:
    Any BF offer?

    This Year there are no BF Deals at MrVM.

  • Any updates on the new locations? Gettin' kind of down to the wire.

  • @skorous said:
    Any updates on the new locations? Gettin' kind of down to the wire.

    Forgot to tag @SGraf

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited December 2023

    @skorous said:

    @skorous said:
    Any updates on the new locations? Gettin' kind of down to the wire.

    Forgot to tag @SGraf

    Dear Skorus!

    Thank you for your inquiry. As you may have noticed, my activity level on the forums has decreased over the last weeks.
    That is because everything has been an extremely busy recently. Many projects are finally moving closer to completion.

    With regard to available server-resources/inventory... Please refer to the website.
    It is the first thing that gets updated whenever more capacity is being added.

    If there is something else that concerns MrVM, please open a ticket.
    (Note: Opening multiple tickets just makes it harder for me to clear the backlog).

    Kind Regards

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited February 2024

    Quick update as of 2024_02_15:

    • Hypervisors+Provisioning/management module have proven to be very reliable.
    • "Domain Forwarding" via 80/443 is moving from the "testing" stage to "production" and can now be requested by all clients via a ticket.
    • If things go to plan...then a new LXC location is also coming end of this to middle of next month.

    More to follow soon!

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    Update 2024_03_07:
    - Two new LXC locations in the works. (Slightly behind schedule on this,but its not going to be much longer :) ).
    - LXC1_ams node full, LXC2_ams node provisioning now. (Packages marked to reflect this on the site).

  • Almost instinctively deleted the NAT VPS renewal email lol - showed up as "Billing Department" as the sender

  • edited July 2024

    @SGraf said:
    [...]

    • "Domain Forwarding" via 80/443 is moving from the "testing" stage to "production" and can now be requested by all clients via a ticket.

    [...]

    Do you plan to automate this so users can set this themselves?

  • SGrafSGraf Provider

    @tbnuser said:
    Almost instinctively deleted the NAT VPS renewal email lol - showed up as "Billing Department" as the sender

    Thank you for the concern/feedback. I'll look into making this more intuitive in the the future. Not sure why you posted this here instead of opening a ticket.

    @Multi_ said:

    @SGraf said:
    [...]

    • "Domain Forwarding" via 80/443 is moving from the "testing" stage to "production" and can now be requested by all clients via a ticket.

    [...]

    Do you plan to automate this so users can set this themselves?

    Had a test-phase for users to set it themselves. Lets just say there are reasons why it was reverted back to "open a ticket if you need it".

  • This is a copy of todays Update/News:

    Dear MrVM Users!

    Today i am able to share some amazing NEWS with all of you!

    • Germany is BACK! Now LXC Based VPS Services can be provisioned in Germany (FRA)!

    Users with existing "old" Plans in Germany: As some of you may be aware the "old"/"legacy" services are running on servers with End-of-Life Software versions (OVZ6 and OVZ7).
    Therefore we will try to bring all of you onto the new LXC Platform. This means you will have access to more resources (such as more Diskspace and Bandwidth/Traffic).

    I also want to address two concerns that our clients with existing services may have.

    • Pricing: You will get to retain your current pricing level, no changes!
    • No more 128mb plans. All users holding an 128mb plan will get an upgrade to a 256 MB plan on the new LXC platform while still retaining their old price.

    In order to make this process as smooth as possible, please see the following timeline:

    • September 10th to 15th 2024: Users with OVZ Services in DE will find an additional LXC VPS in their account.
    • Users have at least 1 Month to migrate their data to the new Platform.
    • Oktober 15th 2024: Any old "ovz6" and "ovz7" based Services will be suspended.
    • Oktober 30th 2024: Final backups of the OpenVZ-Germany Servers will be taken.
    • November 1st 2024: Decommissioning of old OpenVZ-Germany Servers. If you have any questions or Feedback please feel free to reach out via Ticket or reply to this e-mail!

    Kind Regards
    Sebastian / MrVM

  • This morning i woke up and the following thought came to me:

    • October will the 1 Year anniversary since i took on the MrvM Project.

    What do you guys think, should be done to celebrate?

    • New Location?
    • Some type of Discount/Sale?
    • Maybe a Bundle Deal?

    Let me know (either here, or via ticket/mail/dm)....

  • edited September 2024

    @SGraf said:

    Maybe a Bundle Deal

    lets dance with no pants?

    hurry because i get cold very soon

  • @SGraf said:

    • New Location?
    • Some type of Discount/Sale?
    • Maybe a Bundle Deal?

    All of them in that specific order.

    dnscry.pt - Public DNSCrypt resolvers hosted by LowEnd providers • Need a free NAT LXC? -> https://microlxc.net/

  • imokimok OG Not Administrator

    @ehab said:
    @imok where is @FrankZ ?

    I'm a bit worried.

  • I'm not sure if this has been posted yet - but the Auckland / New Zealand NAT VPS from the pre-handover days of mrVM are being discontinued at the end of the calendar year. It is a pity since it was one of the only lowend NZ VPSes around.

    Dear MrvM Client!

    Its been an amazing Year since MrVM has started its Quest of improving
    service quality, stability and reliablity. This has meant a lot of changes
    for our Platform, such as starting to from openvz to LXC.

    With our LXC Services seeing great interest/uptake and our OpenVZ service
    count declining, we also have to sometimes make hard decisions.

    At the end of the Year (on 31st December 2024) we will be closing a
    Service Location that you currently have a service in.

    Service(s):

    • NAT256 (NewZealand) - Legacy

    You can choose from the following Options:

    All-Clients: Partial Refund of the remaining Service time to Account Balance (This is the default option).
    All Clients: A replacement Service (LXC) with the better specs (512mb) in any of the following Locations - at your current price: Vienna (Austria), Amsterdam (Netherlands), Frankfurt (Germany), Texas (USA).
    If Paid by Paypal: Partial Refund of the remaining Service time to your Paypal Account.

    Please do let us know, and apologies for the Inconvenience!

    Kind Regards

    Sebastian / MrVM

  • @tbnuser said:
    lowend NZ VPSes

    microLXC has New Zealand.

    We accept Karma donations for the last flan. 🍮 affbrr

  • Dear @SGraf and whole community. I have got e-mail "Your service, NAT128 (NO) - Legacy - 599, has been canceled." Server was mostly idling since many years. Invoices paid in-time. Got no e-mail about incoming cancelling,etc. Does anyone got the same e-mail and got VPS cancelled?

  • zgatozgato Chief Idle Officer

    @amiga said:
    Dear @SGraf and whole community. I have got e-mail "Your service, NAT128 (NO) - Legacy - 599, has been canceled." Server was mostly idling since many years. Invoices paid in-time. Got no e-mail about incoming cancelling,etc. Does anyone got the same e-mail and got VPS cancelled?

    Got it cancelled too, reason being "EOL"

  • @amiga said:
    Dear @SGraf and whole community. I have got e-mail "Your service, NAT128 (NO) - Legacy - 599, has been canceled." Server was mostly idling since many years. Invoices paid in-time. Got no e-mail about incoming cancelling,etc. Does anyone got the same e-mail and got VPS cancelled?

    I got the same email/cancelled and with no advance warning. Check the dashboard and its gone (and there is a message on the dashboard about it - but it was never sent out as an email).

  • I got the same abrupt cancellation email for the MrVM Milan OpenVZ service. The Milan OpenVZ service had not been working for the last two months. Then it was working, for one whole day, then cancelled with no warning. That's so charming.

    At least Mikal gave some warning when a service was cancelled.

  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters
    edited September 2025

    Looks like another host going deadpool!

    I speak fluent sarcasm and broken logic. | I would agree with you, but thæn we’d both be wrong.

  • SGrafSGraf Provider
    edited September 2025

    @somik said: Looks like another host going deadpool!

    To put it simply: "No".

    You are ofc free to speculate, but please do remove the misleading picture from your post.

    @timsan said:
    I got the same abrupt cancellation email for the MrVM Milan OpenVZ service. The Milan OpenVZ service had not been working for the last two months. Then it was working, for one whole day, then cancelled with no warning. That's so charming.

    That sadly is the reality. Old, outdated things causing problems. Are you really surprised that at some point nodes running openvz6/openvz7 are getting retired? Especially if there is no viable long-term upgrade path. (We are talking super old outdated kernels,....)

    @mhubud said:

    @amiga said:
    Dear @SGraf and whole community. I have got e-mail "Your service, NAT128 (NO) - Legacy - 599, has been canceled." Server was mostly idling since many years. Invoices paid in-time. Got no e-mail about incoming cancelling,etc. Does anyone got the same e-mail and got VPS cancelled?

    I got the same email/cancelled and with no advance warning. Check the dashboard and its gone (and there is a message on the dashboard about it - but it was never sent out as an email).

    Notifications went out in april with a planned date of july 1. Some people wrote in via ticket that they needed a bit more time. So i kept things on a bit longer. (i should have sent a second email after that, but oh well, hindsight.) Right now its just catching up to the state it should have been earlier this year.

    However there is some good news as well. Technically there is a (not announced) "grace period" at the moment, meaning that while the billing portal says "cancelled", but the VPS are suspended prior to the openvz hypervisors getting decommissioned (next month). This way the last users that have missed the announcement will have a chance to notice and get in touch.

    If you need, there is the (free) option of temporarily bringing your server back online for a few days so you can migrate your data. Just send in a ticket.

    Hope this helps bring a bit clarity.

  • amigaamiga OG
    edited September 2025

    Oh you'e right @SGraf! That's true, we've got 1st e-mail about OpenVZ expiring. Anyway 2nd e-mail would be nice before it happened. Anyway thank you gave pay-free period for us. My Norway VPS was rock solid, it was really nice journey, was on of the best idle virtual machine I had! ;] Cheers!

  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters
    edited September 2025

    @SGraf said:

    @somik said: Looks like another host going deadpool!

    To put it simply: "No".

    You are ofc free to speculate, but please do remove the misleading picture from your post.

    You're outside the 1h limit of me editing my post... Will report the post to mods for their help.

    Welcome back to LES!

    I speak fluent sarcasm and broken logic. | I would agree with you, but thæn we’d both be wrong.

  • MichaelCeeMichaelCee ModeratorProviderOG Cymru

    @somik said:

    @SGraf said:

    @somik said: Looks like another host going deadpool!

    To put it simply: "No".

    You are ofc free to speculate, but please do remove the misleading picture from your post.

    You're outside the 1h limit of me editing my post... Will report the post to mods for their help.

    Welcome back to LES!

    It 404's anyway

  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters

    @MichaelCee said:

    @somik said:
    You're outside the 1h limit of me editing my post... Will report the post to mods for their help.

    Welcome back to LES!

    It 404's anyway

    Ya, I had deleted the image from my imagehost, but cloudflare cache was still showing it for a few more hours...

    Thanks @MichaelCee :smile:

    I speak fluent sarcasm and broken logic. | I would agree with you, but thæn we’d both be wrong.

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