Looking for a small UK/EU VM for a personal Nextcloud

VPSensational

Hi all,

As in the subject title, I'm looking for a small VM in the UK or EU for the purposes of installing a single-user Nextcloud for personal use only, for syncing documents and spreadsheets rather than large media files.

I'd like it to be with a provider that's been around for a while and is going to be around for a while (so no HostDoc type providers with unsustainable pricing). I don't have a specific budget in mind, but I'd like to pay quarterly or longer rather than monthly if possible.

Spec:

• UK location preferred, EU location OK
• 512MB or 1GB RAM
• 5GB disk
• Negligible transfer (500GB per month is more than enough)
• 1x IPv4
• Debian thx, php selekter ok

Open to any and all offers and deals x

Harambe

For UK I would go with @AnthonySmith - can check the latest UK offer here (although not sure if it's still live) https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/545/nvme-ssd-kvm-uk-ddos-protected-free-da-50-off-free-2nd-ip-or-double-disk#latest

Otherwise I would recommend @Francisco (BuyVM) in Luxembourg - connectivity to UK has been good from my previous testing. Although stock is quite limited for the LU location most of the time, currently 0 stock https://my.frantech.ca/cart.php?gid=39

AlwaysSkint

Oneprovider are doing no setup fees on small dedis just now - great for Nextcloud, if you stretch the budget a wee bit.
Otherwise, either of the above gets my vote.

vyas

Owncube is a good though
you will have to see which plan suits your need.
https://owncube.com/

For 5GB storage only, why not opt for a free tier plan from one of the nextcloud/owncloud providers for starters? Are there specific reasons for incurring the overhead of a vps just for nextcloud instance ?

https://nextcloud.com/signup/

Otherwise there is e.email (edit: they are new) or you can set up a nextcloud instance on aws lightsail .

Edit:

Hetzner https://www.hetzner.de/storage/storage-share

Or get a shared / reseller hosting plan- as long as provider has no objections to you running nextcloud for personal use, it should be good.

Edit 2:
If intention is file storage / transfer only then pcloud Free tier more than meets your needs.
And would recommend @koofr any day. They have been around a while.

koofr.eu.
Awesome apps for win, mac, linux, ios and android

Edit 3: owncloud providers

https://owncloud.org/hosting-partners/

Edit4:
If you do want to go the vps—> Nextcloud route, then

liteserver.nl haven’t used their service myself, but have read good things. They have a 25 percent discount, so plans could be little under 4 euros/ month.

Also, @mikeA had a deal for France. You may want to search it : it’s in the threads somewhere.

vpsgeek

@Harambe said:
For UK I would go with @AnthonySmith - can check the latest UK offer here (although not sure if it's still live) https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/545/nvme-ssd-kvm-uk-ddos-protected-free-da-50-off-free-2nd-ip-or-double-disk#latest

I wish @AnthonySmith would bring those back even if very limited in quantity as the offer you mentioned has expired. Recommend OP to get it from InceptionHosting as the pricing is fair even without promo codes

uptime

@vyas

nice one ...

re5pekt!

AK_KWH

2Gb ram
20Gb SSD
1Tb bandwidth
2Vcores cpu
France location
18$/6 month
Let me know if you are interested

vyas

@uptime said:
@vyas

nice one ...

re5pekt!

Learning from the best sir, learning from the best

seriesn

@VPSensational said:
Hi all,

As in the subject title, I'm looking for a small VM in the UK or EU for the purposes of installing a single-user Nextcloud for personal use only, for syncing documents and spreadsheets rather than large media files.

I'd like it to be with a provider that's been around for a while and is going to be around for a while (so no HostDoc type providers with unsustainable pricing). I don't have a specific budget in mind, but I'd like to pay quarterly or longer rather than monthly if possible.

Spec:

• UK location preferred, EU location OK
• 512MB or 1GB RAM
• 5GB disk
• Negligible transfer (500GB per month is more than enough)
• 1x IPv4
• Debian thx, php selekter ok

Open to any and all offers and deals x

Hey Bud,
Join the family .

We just added some fresh stock for our 0.5G plan @$24/year or $2.50/mo https://nexusbytes.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=18 (Germany)

flips

Or if you just need some nextcloud accounts and would happen to benefit from email hosting as well, MXroute offers NextCloud, you get a generous 10 GB per email account you create IIRC.

terrorgen

What @vyas said.

Else I can't vouch enough for @seriesn. No fuss hosting(TM)

@seriesn for realsies please trademark the above

Nick_A

Please check out our Netherlands location and use CLOUD25 when you sign up!

seriesn

@terrorgen said:
What @vyas said.

Else I can't vouch enough for @seriesn. No fuss hosting(TM)

@seriesn for realsies please trademark the above

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uptime

several soiid recommendations - and some excellent providers stepping up with offers in this very thread.

Really good to see happening here.

That is all.

EDIT:

also ...

• CrownCloud (@SpeedBus)
• First-Root (? is that you @Father_Michael?)
• Wishosting (@exception0x876)
• UltraVPS.eu (@UltraVPS)

vyas

OP has mentioned UK/EU as location but thought of mentioning the gratis Nextcloud 10 gb storage by Spry Servers in the U S. I haven’t used it myself, but it’s there and they are in this forum

@seriesn
I took OP's comment (I'd like it to be with a provider that's been around for a while and is going to be around for a while ) in the letter and not the spirit, and that is an oops!

To make up for it: @VPSensational Nexusbtytes when paid for annual plan is 10 GB, and if you twist a discount code or two out of the threads here, you can get the base setup for < 2 US Dollars/month on a Ryzen. + NVMe.

Or,

(below is strictly for fun project, but doable if it fits the budget )

Get the "buy two, get one free offer) and for less than $ 40 / year (including discounts) set up a NC instance on all 3 locations : 1 EU (Germany), 2 in US (on either coast). Now, you get a 5 GB Backup folder, and a backup of backup, plus a backup of a backup of a backup for free!

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Question for the wise

I had a question for those who have set up NC/OC on a VPS. How do you do it?
Do you do Stock OS install + LEMP/LAMP + Nextcloud?
Or
Ubuntu 18.04 server with nextcloud option?

Do you use disk encryption?

Now about that managerial nextcloud....

elliotc

Docker nextcloud behind docker nginx

Sova

Nothing can beat FREE right?
https://www.bacloud.com/en/cloud-drive
I've been using their FREE tier for some time now and it works absolutely great. I plan on upgrading once I go over the 10GB limit.

angstrom

@vyas said:
Question for the wise

I had a question for those who have set up NC/OC on a VPS. How do you do it?
Do you do Stock OS install + LEMP/LAMP + Nextcloud?

This is what I do. It definitely requires more work than a "ready-made solution", but I feel like I have a better oversight of the moving parts.

Or
Ubuntu 18.04 server with nextcloud option?

I guess that this would be some template offered by a provider. I find that templates vary a lot in quality, but there are some that are thoughtfully put together.

If I were inclined to use a "ready-made solution", I'd probably choose TurnKey Linux:

https://www.turnkeylinux.org/nextcloud or https://www.turnkeylinux.org/owncloud

Do you use disk encryption?

Not at this time.

uptime

@uptime said:
several soiid recommendations - and some excellent providers stepping up with offers in this very thread.

Really good to see happening here.

That is all.

EDIT:

also ...

• CrownCloud (@SpeedBus)
• First-Root (? is that you @Father_Michael?)
• Wishosting (@exception0x876)
• UltraVPS.eu (@UltraVPS)

Also forgot to mention @freerangecloud for NL location (and quoting previous list just to tag the referenced providers)

@vyas said: [several good questions and suggestions ...]
Do you use disk encryption?

In general, I am in the habit of using full disk encryption unless there is a good reason not to (ie, some situation involving absolutely minimal resources / requiring low complexity / low effort / etc)

I don't have any experience installing or administering nextcloud or owncloud so can't say whether FDE would complicate things.

And I rather not run ubuntu if I can help it, but that's just me. If I'm looking for some setup shortcuts I might try a yunohost install to get something going quickly and have a working config to compare to. But that's a whole 'nother can of worms!

My baseline understanding is that when planning to run nextcloud (etc), it is prudent to anticipate some CPU use (ie if much checksumming, making thumbnails of images, and so forth. Disk encryption, if any, may not actually be the most significant factor for CPU load in this scenario, especially if AES flag is enabled.)

And ... I have been happily idling SpryServers free nextcloud service for a while now.

dahartigan

There's some awesome suggestions in this thread! @seriesn (nexus bytes) and @SMARTHOST are 2 of the best IMO and either would be perfect.

debaser

@vyas said:
and if you twist a discount code or two out of the threads here

To be fair, I think WHMCS lets you only enter one discount code (and most will be expired too).

AlwaysSkint

Webmin on debian for Nexcloud, with encryption. None of that docker crap. What's the point of Ubuntu server any way? (Serious question.)

uptime

@AlwaysSkint said:
What's the point of Ubuntu server any way? (Serious question.)

Maybe worth breaking off to another thread, but ... using Ubuntu sometimes can make access to proprietary drivers more straightforward than (for instance) Debian. (I've run into this with GPUs. Not exactly a "typical" server, but one that I care about, so ....)

vyas

@AlwaysSkint said:
Webmin on debian for Nexcloud, with encryption. None of that docker crap. What's the point of Ubuntu server any way? (Serious question.)

I prefer Debian, but almost every managed infrastructure provider limits to Ubuntu. Gridpane, Runcloud, even the default lightsail cms installs IIRC (amazon and ubuntu are a different matter altogether).

When we were hiring for our site and content infrastructure, the recruitment agency put together the role description with the usual jargon, but they mentioned Ubuntu in four places.

“Ubuntu is the industry standard. You will find majority of the candidates Ubuntu.” The agency rep said.
I replied, “but I prefer Debian.”
“No sir, believe me Ubuntu is the best.” Came the reply

The conversation and their engagement ended there.

Back to topic
The reason I mentioned Ubuntu server is because I have seen option for Nextcloud in a couple if instances. I had accidentally chosen 18.04 sever edition template for a provider last week, saw it there too.

(edit: corrected typos and autocorrects)

angstrom

Personally, I also prefer Debian, but arguably, Ubuntu is more user-friendly, particularly on the desktop.

I find Ubuntu Server slightly obnoxious, for example, with all of those login messages by default, but perhaps that's just me.

angstrom

So what's the consensus on the best free Nextcloud service? (I've always run my own ownCloud/Nextcloud, but I'm curious about the free options.)

vyas

@Sova mentioned bacloud. I have used NC on owncube in the past, Germany based, would recommend them.
@uptime gives thumbs up to Spry Servers . That's NA
@poisson / @fat32 any recommendations for free Nextcloud/Owncloud hosting in Asia?

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Personally
currently trying out NC install on a Reseller hosting plan that was idling.

Edit: Found this list on Github, adding it here since most of the discussion is around NC ...also corrected the incorrect attribution

https://github.com/nextcloud/providers

havoc

@angstrom said:

So what's the consensus on the best free Nextcloud service? (

If I'm not mistaken you can hook it into OneDrive etc...so any smallish VPS should do for hosting the actual running software

angstrom

@havoc said:

@angstrom said:

So what's the consensus on the best free Nextcloud service? (

If I'm not mistaken you can hook it into OneDrive etc...so any smallish VPS should do for hosting the actual running software

Yes, I know, but I was just wondering about free Nextcloud services. If someone just wants a personal Nextcloud, a VPS may well be overkill and a free Nextcloud service may suffice (even if I personally have reservations about using a free service).

elliotc

VPS for only a nextcloud might overkill, but I host my nextcloud, gitea and bitwardenrs on a single node.

FAT32

@vyas said:
poisson / fat32 any recommendations for free Nextcloud/Owncloud hosting in Asia?

Not aware of anything free... even then I dont trust my data on their services unencrypted. If that really happens you know it will be closed down due to abusers

vyas

@FAT32 said:

@vyas said:
poisson / fat32 any recommendations for free Nextcloud/Owncloud hosting in Asia?

Not aware of anything free... even then I dont trust my data on their services unencrypted. If that really happens you know it will be closed down due to abusers

How about non free? Any $ 2.99 plans?

@AlwaysSkint ref your message below...

Damn OCDs.. :-)

AlwaysSkint

I'm too much of a control freak: prefer to partition, install, encrypt and tweak myself, rather than OOB/preset configurations. My Nextcloud instances are either on (proper) lowend dedi or self-configured VPS.

VPSensational

@AlwaysSkint said:
I'm too much of a control freak: prefer to partition, install, encrypt and tweak myself, rather than OOB/preset configurations. My Nextcloud instances are either on (proper) lowend dedi or self-configured VPS.

Me too! Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll leaf through them this evening and find a place for my Nextcloud. I don't really trust free services with my data, I'd rather pay some money and know it's safe and secure somewhere. If I'm not paying for it, it could get pulled at any moment and I'd rather have something I can rely on.

I've currently got a Nextcloud instance on a shared host but it's starting to get a bit slow and I think it could benefit from the extra resources a VPS would afford.

seriesn

@VPSensational said:

@AlwaysSkint said:
I'm too much of a control freak: prefer to partition, install, encrypt and tweak myself, rather than OOB/preset configurations. My Nextcloud instances are either on (proper) lowend dedi or self-configured VPS.

Me too! Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll leaf through them this evening and find a place for my Nextcloud. I don't really trust free services with my data, I'd rather pay some money and know it's safe and secure somewhere. If I'm not paying for it, it could get pulled at any moment and I'd rather have something I can rely on.

I've currently got a Nextcloud instance on a shared host but it's starting to get a bit slow and I think it could benefit from the extra resources a VPS would afford.

Sir : https://nexusbytes.com/knowledgebase/39/1plus1-equals-3-Valentines-Day-Promo.html

vyas

@seriesn

Below is On the VPS-1 plan. Not sure if one can run NC on the storage plans.
Not that one not could, but rather one not should.

For vps-1 that's more like 7 GB your own, personal, exclusive Nextcloud with (2x redundancy) @ $40/ year

Or

Stack to get 25 GB for @ $40

Minus discounts yada yada annual blah

Grab a coffee and show us your skills how to write sales copy.

If you want to share for nextcloud you get a pair.
And a third with a smile and a thanks- just because we care.

seriesn

@vyas said:
@seriesn

Below is On the VPS-1 plan. Not sure if one can run NC on the storage plans.
Not that one not could, but rather one not should.

For vps-1 that's more like 7 GB your own, personal, exclusive Nextcloud with (2x redundancy) @ $40/ year

Or

Stack to get 25 GB for @ $40

Minus discounts yada yada annual blah

Grab a coffee and show us your skills how to write sales copy.

If you want to share for nextcloud you get a pair.
And a third with a smile and a thanks- just because we care.

I like the blahs! It is the perfect umph??

deepak_leb

Hosthatch, liteserver, alphavps.bg, nexusbytes,inception hosting, letbox,wishosting and list goes on.

Currently am using nextcloud on hosthatch server ( 2yrs + - Stockholm) still solid & good.

seriesn

@deepak_leb said:
Currently am using nextcloud on hosthatch server ( 2yrs + - Stockholm) still solid & good.

Is it safe to say, you got "stockholm" syndrome?

VPSensational

@seriesn said:

@VPSensational said:

@AlwaysSkint said:
I'm too much of a control freak: prefer to partition, install, encrypt and tweak myself, rather than OOB/preset configurations. My Nextcloud instances are either on (proper) lowend dedi or self-configured VPS.

Me too! Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll leaf through them this evening and find a place for my Nextcloud. I don't really trust free services with my data, I'd rather pay some money and know it's safe and secure somewhere. If I'm not paying for it, it could get pulled at any moment and I'd rather have something I can rely on.

I've currently got a Nextcloud instance on a shared host but it's starting to get a bit slow and I think it could benefit from the extra resources a VPS would afford.

Sir

It's "madam" to you

WSS

seriesn

@VPSensational said:

@seriesn said:

@VPSensational said:

@AlwaysSkint said:
I'm too much of a control freak: prefer to partition, install, encrypt and tweak myself, rather than OOB/preset configurations. My Nextcloud instances are either on (proper) lowend dedi or self-configured VPS.

Me too! Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll leaf through them this evening and find a place for my Nextcloud. I don't really trust free services with my data, I'd rather pay some money and know it's safe and secure somewhere. If I'm not paying for it, it could get pulled at any moment and I'd rather have something I can rely on.

I've currently got a Nextcloud instance on a shared host but it's starting to get a bit slow and I think it could benefit from the extra resources a VPS would afford.

Sir

It's "madam" to you

Eek my bad! :*) Join the family

VPSensational

If the kind of transphobic video above is the tone I'm going to get here, I'm out.

WSS

@VPSensational said:
If the kind of transphobic video above is the tone I'm going to get here, I'm out.

If someone recording someone having a shitfit over an accidental pronoun is enough to make you go away, I wouldn't trust you with my service. "Asshole" is non-gendered. Does that work for you?

CamoYoshi

C'mon guys, let's keep it civil in here. No need to be at each other's throats over words. Apologize and move on.

WSS

@CamoYoshi said:
C'mon guys, let's keep it civil in here. No need to be at each other's throats over words. Apologize and move on.

This isn't tumbr. Either Ant can ban me, or ban both of us, or neither. I will not apologize for offending a snowflake getting offended by some idiot breaking up a store because of victim culture.

I don't give a fuck what your personal identity is. I'm here to talk code, hosting, and sarcasm. If that bothers you, then don't wear it on your sleeve.

CamoYoshi

@WSS said:

@CamoYoshi said:
C'mon guys, let's keep it civil in here. No need to be at each other's throats over words. Apologize and move on.

This isn't tumbr. Either Ant can ban me, or ban both of us, or neither. I will not apologize for offending a snowflake getting offended by some idiot breaking up a store because of victim culture.

I don't give a fuck what your personal identity is. I'm here to talk code, hosting, and sarcasm. If that bothers you, then don't wear it on your sleeve.

I get that, totally. It's not justified to be upset over someone who made a genuine mistake as shown in the video. I think it goes both ways. Courtesy on both sides is important. We can agree to disagree but I think it's a morally better choice to show courtesy and respect even if you don't get it in return. Does it justify one's actions of say, destroying property just because there was a mistake? Of course not. But it also doesn't justify being mean spirited back, either.

As always, this is just my two cents.

angstrom

@VPSensational said:
If the kind of transphobic video above is the tone I'm going to get here, I'm out.

With all due respect, I don't think that I would label the video "transphobic", though I'd be open to being convinced otherwise. The only person who blew everything out of proportion was the trans-person. The clerk erred in not using the gender form of address that the trans-person wished to hear, but the clerk then apologized and remained calm despite the completely exaggerated reaction of the trans-person.

Of course, it's another question how this video is relevant to the topic of this thread(!), but @WSS was reacting to your remark to @seriesn ("It's "madam" to you"), which I guess implies that you're female(?), but I'm not sure that this is what you meant ...

... Anyway, let's all calm down.

seriesn

Sigh...

@VPSensational said:
If the kind of transphobic video above is the tone I'm going to get here, I'm out.

Hey,
No @WSS is our beloved forum troll and shit poster. @WSS means no harm. He tried to add some fun to the thread as usual.

It was definitely a mistake on my part to assume you are a male (On the internet, everyone is a male assumption.). I do apologies if my remark or assumption was disrespectful to you, or anyone else in this forum.

@WSS said:

@CamoYoshi said:
C'mon guys, let's keep it civil in here. No need to be at each other's throats over words. Apologize and move on.

This isn't tumbr. Either Ant can ban me, or ban both of us, or neither. I will not apologize for offending a snowflake getting offended by some idiot breaking up a store because of victim culture.

I don't give a fuck what your personal identity is. I'm here to talk code, hosting, and sarcasm. If that bothers you, then don't wear it on your sleeve.

Give our new friend here some benefit of the doubt and get to know you/the LE forum style .

Let's make love, not war. Jokes were made, comments were passed, appropriate or inappropriate, that is up to the users' and readers' discretion.

vyas

Wow the discussion went off in a different direction overnight.

Anyways, here are the screenshots from the Ubuntu 18.04 server template from Virmach. This is the same VPS which was showing high steals so I anyways had to reinstall.. thought of giving NC a try.
Posting just the links since the images are not quite desktop friendly

1. Choice of snaps
   https://img.gaatha.co/qbYYmj

2.Choice of Nextcloud version
https://cdn-std.droplr.net/files/acc_760875/SjO5f5

and finally

3. Install in progress
4. https://img.gaatha.co/ERUxVB