If it wasn't for the swearing ban I'd use some delightfully fruity wording to describe that absolute disgrace of a human being.
He has six kids. Six. Can you believe that? Can you believe someone let that human beanpole empty his sack into them six times? The mind boggles. At least we've probably seen the last of him in Government.
For regularly ordering servers and then cancelling them within 14 days.
How many times did you cancel? Asking for a friend.
A lot, I didn’t remember how many. Maybe 20-30 times over 3-ish years?
I did actually rent servers in that period so it’s not like I cancelled every single one and they had plenty of money off me, but I guess something flagged somewhere along the line.
Support were very polite and danced around the point a bit but essentially they said that I should expect disks to look like crap, they would replace them if they failed and if that wasn’t good enough I shouldn’t purchase anything from the auctions going forwards.
essentially they said that I should expect disks to look like crap, they would replace them if they failed and if that wasn’t good enough I shouldn’t purchase anything from the auctions going forwards.
huh? so, hardware from auction server expected to have less/bad performance???
essentially they said that I should expect disks to look like crap, they would replace them if they failed and if that wasn’t good enough I shouldn’t purchase anything from the auctions going forwards.
huh? so, hardware from auction server expected to have less/bad performance???
Well, yes - they’re old stock bring repurposed so won’t be as good as the normal servers - that’s why they’re typically a lot cheaper.
@Nekki said: Fun spec, but inc VAT well out of my price range unfortunately.
For what it's worth, Scaleway haven't charged VAT to UK customers ever since Brexit officially went through. They probably should, but as a UK resident I am not complaining.
When I attempted to find out why, I found a support article which states
"If you are not located in one of the 27 member states of the European Union, no other tax will be added to your invoice, per application of EU laws."
Funnily enough, that number of member states on the page was 28 prior to 2021. They seemingly give no fucks about UK tax laws.
@Nekki said: Fun spec, but inc VAT well out of my price range unfortunately.
For what it's worth, Scaleway haven't charged VAT to UK customers ever since Brexit officially went through. They probably should, but as a UK resident I am not complaining.
When I attempted to find out why, I found a support article which states
"If you are not located in one of the 27 member states of the European Union, no other tax will be added to your invoice, per application of EU laws."
Funnily enough, that number of member states on the page was 28 prior to 2021. They seemingly give no fucks about UK tax laws.
I’ve found a few European-based companies stopped charging VAT after we left the EU, I’m not entirely clear why - perhaps there’s no longer a legal obligation to collect VAT on behalf of the UK, so they don’t?
So in summary, other than Walkerservers who have stock for a whole 30 seconds a day, there's no large-ish storage delis at a reasonable price unless I give in to the evil of OVH or circumvent my Hetzner ban?
Leaseweb are currently doing a promo on their NL Xeon E3-1230/16GB DDR3/4x4TB SATA2 with 30TB Traffic.
If you take the 12mnt Contract off it takes it to around ~ £40 a month - that's with VAT included - obviously will be a tad cheaper if you keep the 12mnt option.
@OsirisBlack said:
Leaseweb are currently doing a promo on their NL Xeon E3-1230/16GB DDR3/4x4TB SATA2 with 30TB Traffic.
If you take the 12mnt Contract off it takes it to around ~ £40 a month - that's with VAT included - obviously will be a tad cheaper if you keep the 12mnt option.
It's a nice price, and pretty reasonable given the TBs, but roughly £10 over where I want to be. A yeah ago I'd have probably jumped on it, but these days I can't afford to spank too much on storage I won't use.
@OsirisBlack said:
Leaseweb are currently doing a promo on their NL Xeon E3-1230/16GB DDR3/4x4TB SATA2 with 30TB Traffic.
If you take the 12mnt Contract off it takes it to around ~ £40 a month - that's with VAT included - obviously will be a tad cheaper if you keep the 12mnt option.
It's a nice price, and pretty reasonable given the TBs, but roughly £10 over where I want to be. A yeah ago I'd have probably jumped on it, but these days I can't afford to spank too much on storage I won't use.
Yeah - the only way to get it down to your budget is to customise the disks - then they hit you with the set up fee so that's a none starter.
Regards Walkers - to snag a 2x2TB that's in your budget - you're better off on their Discord channel as they come up regularly on there.
I try to avoid going with LW direct anyways. Shit support, capped network, just not worth it. Oftentimes they're more expensive than Walker anyways. Stock is an issue but once you get a box it's hard to dump it.
@Nekki said:
So in summary, other than Walkerservers who have stock for a whole 30 seconds a day, there's no large-ish storage delis at a reasonable price unless I give in to the evil of OVH or circumvent my Hetzner ban?
These are sad, sad times we live in, sad times.
Walkerservers, register to get notified by email. Reliable. Great service and quick support! Better than Hetzner in everything. sometimes you get 2x3 TB instead of 2x2 depending on stock, great hidden hack!
I don't understand what is your complaint about andy? Reliable, has been around for years, great guy, but yeah only downside, not for serious business, no invoices, billing system, etc and no panel. If your server is down, you ask him by email/irc/discord. Usually solved very fast, downtime is rare.
You can also check oneprovider! They surely have what you wish for in various locations, Specially in France and NL (online/scaleway DC).
As for your Hetzner Ban, why are you banned? traffic abuse? the lowest Hetzner server now is a bit over your budget (with VAT), but you can ask netdynamics, walker, or andy to order a hetzner server for you, but since the servers are already out of your budget, with their extra commission it might be more than you want to pay.
so tl;dr: walker and one provider (act quick, there are few 8TB servers for 27.5 euros in France). or for 21 2x2 just like you wanted.
@Nekki said:
So in summary, other than Walkerservers who have stock for a whole 30 seconds a day, there's no large-ish storage delis at a reasonable price unless I give in to the evil of OVH or circumvent my Hetzner ban?
These are sad, sad times we live in, sad times.
Walkerservers, register to get notified by email. Reliable. Great service and quick support! Better than Hetzner in everything. sometimes you get 2x3 TB instead of 2x2 depending on stock, great hidden hack!
I did register, never saw an email. Luckily someone gave me a helping hand with that.
I don't understand what is your complaint about andy? Reliable, has been around for years, great guy, but yeah only downside, not for serious business, no invoices, billing system, etc and no panel. If your server is down, you ask him by email/irc/discord. Usually solved very fast, downtime is rare.
I don’t have a complaint. I just don’t like the sound of the whole shebang, including many of the points you mention.
You can also check oneprovider! They surely have what you wish for in various locations, Specially in France and NL (online/scaleway DC).
Didn’t see anything that met my requirements on Scaleway.
As for your Hetzner Ban, why are you banned? traffic abuse? the lowest Hetzner server now is a bit over your budget (with VAT), but you can ask netdynamics, walker, or andy to order a hetzner server for you, but since the servers are already out of your budget, with their extra commission it might be more than you want to pay.
Ordering and cancelling too many auction servers.
so tl;dr: walker and one provider (act quick, there are few 8TB servers for 27.5 euros in France). or for 21 2x2 just like you wanted.
Same as the standard 2x2TB, just a few € lower per month.
Ahh... and no 4TB disks instead of 2?
No, I only need 4TB right now and price is more important than additional TBs. I’m hoping there’s something nice for BF with a bit more storage but if not, this is fine - I can now drop my underpowered PebbleHost 6TB and save about £10/month.
@OsirisBlack said:
Leaseweb are currently doing a promo on their NL Xeon E3-1230/16GB DDR3/4x4TB SATA2 with 30TB Traffic.
If you take the 12mnt Contract off it takes it to around ~ £40 a month - that's with VAT included - obviously will be a tad cheaper if you keep the 12mnt option.
It's a nice price, and pretty reasonable given the TBs, but roughly £10 over where I want to be. A yeah ago I'd have probably jumped on it, but these days I can't afford to spank too much on storage I won't use.
Yeah - the only way to get it down to your budget is to customise the disks - then they hit you with the set up fee so that's a none starter.
Regards Walkers - to snag a 2x2TB that's in your budget - you're better off on their Discord channel as they come up regularly on there.
What is their Discord? It seems to be ... well, if not hidden then certainly poorly advertised!
Same as the standard 2x2TB, just a few € lower per month.
Ahh... and no 4TB disks instead of 2?
No, I only need 4TB right now and price is more important than additional TBs. I’m hoping there’s something nice for BF with a bit more storage but if not, this is fine - I can now drop my underpowered PebbleHost 6TB and save about £10/month.
Same as the standard 2x2TB, just a few € lower per month.
Ahh... and no 4TB disks instead of 2?
No, I only need 4TB right now and price is more important than additional TBs. I’m hoping there’s something nice for BF with a bit more storage but if not, this is fine - I can now drop my underpowered PebbleHost 6TB and save about £10/month.
True this. Do u still have the SyS 16tb?
No, I now have a pathological hatred of OVH and cancelled it months ago.
Same as the standard 2x2TB, just a few € lower per month.
Ahh... and no 4TB disks instead of 2?
No, I only need 4TB right now and price is more important than additional TBs. I’m hoping there’s something nice for BF with a bit more storage but if not, this is fine - I can now drop my underpowered PebbleHost 6TB and save about £10/month.
True this. Do u still have the SyS 16tb?
No, I now have a pathological hatred of OVH and cancelled it months ago.
Same as the standard 2x2TB, just a few € lower per month.
Ahh... and no 4TB disks instead of 2?
No, I only need 4TB right now and price is more important than additional TBs. I’m hoping there’s something nice for BF with a bit more storage but if not, this is fine - I can now drop my underpowered PebbleHost 6TB and save about £10/month.
True this. Do u still have the SyS 16tb?
No, I now have a pathological hatred of OVH and cancelled it months ago.
O boy
Y the hate?
Dreadful customer service. I’d rather pay a few quid more and get decent support when I need it.
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Why you banned from Hetzner?
Team push-ups!
For regularly ordering servers and then cancelling them within 14 days.
How many times did you cancel? Asking for a friend.
A lot, I didn’t remember how many. Maybe 20-30 times over 3-ish years?
I did actually rent servers in that period so it’s not like I cancelled every single one and they had plenty of money off me, but I guess something flagged somewhere along the line.
Support were very polite and danced around the point a bit but essentially they said that I should expect disks to look like crap, they would replace them if they failed and if that wasn’t good enough I shouldn’t purchase anything from the auctions going forwards.
essentially they said that I should expect disks to look like crap, they would replace them if they failed and if that wasn’t good enough I shouldn’t purchase anything from the auctions going forwards.
huh? so, hardware from auction server expected to have less/bad performance???
Well, yes - they’re old stock bring repurposed so won’t be as good as the normal servers - that’s why they’re typically a lot cheaper.
For what it's worth, Scaleway haven't charged VAT to UK customers ever since Brexit officially went through. They probably should, but as a UK resident I am not complaining.
When I attempted to find out why, I found a support article which states
"If you are not located in one of the 27 member states of the European Union, no other tax will be added to your invoice, per application of EU laws."
Funnily enough, that number of member states on the page was 28 prior to 2021. They seemingly give no fucks about UK tax laws.
I’ve found a few European-based companies stopped charging VAT after we left the EU, I’m not entirely clear why - perhaps there’s no longer a legal obligation to collect VAT on behalf of the UK, so they don’t?
So in summary, other than Walkerservers who have stock for a whole 30 seconds a day, there's no large-ish storage delis at a reasonable price unless I give in to the evil of OVH or circumvent my Hetzner ban?
These are sad, sad times we live in, sad times.
Leaseweb are currently doing a promo on their NL Xeon E3-1230/16GB DDR3/4x4TB SATA2 with 30TB Traffic.
If you take the 12mnt Contract off it takes it to around ~ £40 a month - that's with VAT included - obviously will be a tad cheaper if you keep the 12mnt option.
It's a nice price, and pretty reasonable given the TBs, but roughly £10 over where I want to be. A yeah ago I'd have probably jumped on it, but these days I can't afford to spank too much on storage I won't use.
I also found these guys: https://deinserverhost.de
They've been in business for awhile. Unfortunately their cheapest servers are out of stock, but upgrading from 2x1TB to 2x2TB is an additional 3 EUR.
Yeah - the only way to get it down to your budget is to customise the disks - then they hit you with the set up fee so that's a none starter.
Regards Walkers - to snag a 2x2TB that's in your budget - you're better off on their Discord channel as they come up regularly on there.
I try to avoid going with LW direct anyways. Shit support, capped network, just not worth it. Oftentimes they're more expensive than Walker anyways. Stock is an issue but once you get a box it's hard to dump it.
I have the email notifications set up but not a sausage. Can’t be arsed to sign up to different services just snag a server.
Walkerservers, register to get notified by email. Reliable. Great service and quick support! Better than Hetzner in everything. sometimes you get 2x3 TB instead of 2x2 depending on stock, great hidden hack!
I don't understand what is your complaint about andy? Reliable, has been around for years, great guy, but yeah only downside, not for serious business, no invoices, billing system, etc and no panel. If your server is down, you ask him by email/irc/discord. Usually solved very fast, downtime is rare.
You can also check oneprovider! They surely have what you wish for in various locations, Specially in France and NL (online/scaleway DC).
As for your Hetzner Ban, why are you banned? traffic abuse? the lowest Hetzner server now is a bit over your budget (with VAT), but you can ask netdynamics, walker, or andy to order a hetzner server for you, but since the servers are already out of your budget, with their extra commission it might be more than you want to pay.
so tl;dr: walker and one provider (act quick, there are few 8TB servers for 27.5 euros in France). or for 21 2x2 just like you wanted.
check clearance section https://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/paris-france
check pre-built servers section https://oneprovider.com/dedicated-servers/amsterdam-netherlands
I did register, never saw an email. Luckily someone gave me a helping hand with that.
I don’t have a complaint. I just don’t like the sound of the whole shebang, including many of the points you mention.
Didn’t see anything that met my requirements on Scaleway.
Ordering and cancelling too many auction servers.
I got a Walker special last night.
I did not mean go with scaleway, I meant use one provider, they have servers in scaleway DC.
Glad you found something
What config did you get? Specs? Price?
Leaseweb NL - 1230*, 16G, 2x2TB, 1Gb unmetered - €25/month
Same as the standard 2x2TB, just a few € lower per month.
Ahh... and no 4TB disks instead of 2?
No, I only need 4TB right now and price is more important than additional TBs. I’m hoping there’s something nice for BF with a bit more storage but if not, this is fine - I can now drop my underpowered PebbleHost 6TB and save about £10/month.
What is their Discord? It seems to be ... well, if not hidden then certainly poorly advertised!
True this. Do u still have the SyS 16tb?
No, I now have a pathological hatred of OVH and cancelled it months ago.
O boy
Y the hate?
Dreadful customer service. I’d rather pay a few quid more and get decent support when I need it.
https://discord.gg/RhVJNNxWuM
*edit: updated with non expiring link