Webhosting24 Year of the Ox Special

tomazu

To celebrate the New Year of the Golden Ox, Webhosting24 is offering the following specials and promotions:

VPS

20x21 Special (21 EUR/year):
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2GB RAM memory
21 GB NVMe RAID10 Storage
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1 IPv4 address
1 IPv6 /48 subnet
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10 GB NVMe RAID10 Storage
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1 IPv4 Address
1 IPv6 /48 subnet
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phart

Is custom ISO supported for VPS?
(OpenBSD to be specific)

Brueggus

I got myself a 10x10x10 Special around Black Friday and so far it's rock stable and idling hard.

10/10 would recommend if you're after something else than Frankfurt in Germany.

tomazu

@phart said:
Is custom ISO supported for VPS?
(OpenBSD to be specific)

yes, you can install from ISO - the templates are just there to save you time, but of course you are not forced to use it and have full ISO support and VNC access.

brunuh

Hello,
I want to know where (websites or forums, etc) you have post this offer (Ox Special) ?
So far, the place I see this offer in total, is merely lowendspirit.
Thank you

tomazu

I want to know where (websites or forums, etc) you have post this offer (Ox Special) ?
So far, the place I see this offer in total, is merely lowendspirit.

thank you for the question brunuh, so far I have posted this only on LES. It is my understanding that I am required or that at least it is expected that offers on LES should be privileged and/or exclusive for at least a short time period.

That means that if I post it on LES, it is there first and I will not post it at the same time on other forums etc.

Please let me know if you have any other questions, nice to see you signed up for this ;-) !

brunuh

Please let me know if you have any other questions, nice to see you signed up for this ;-) !

Is Webhosting24 all run by yourself, or it's run by a team and you take charge of some part

Mr_Tom

@tomazu said: It is my understanding that I am required or that at least it is expected that offers on LES should be privileged and/or exclusive for at least a short time period.

I believe that's just the LES exclusive category. I don't think it applies to the standard "offers" category.

tomazu

Is Webhosting24 all runned by yourself, or it's runned by a team and you take charge of some part

Webhosting24 is the "do-it-yourself" Hosting division/brand of INCUBATEC (Server24 is the Managed Services division/brand). We are a small group of companies active in the hosting, domain and server/cloud space since 2001 (we are also active in the renewable energy sector https://www.incubatec.com/portfolio_category/renewables/ and in real estate https://www.incubatec.com/portfolio_category/realestate/) with offices in Italy and Germany where we also have our NOC (run by webhosting24 GmbH in Munich) and the two main data centres interconnected with dark fiber (we have 18 PoPs worldwide and we plan to further expand in 2021). We have an ICANN Registrar (Own Identity, Inc.) and are members of RIPE (https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/it.incubatec-com.html & https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/de.webhosting24.html) and have our own AS-numbers and IP-addresses. We are accredited at Registro ccTLD .IT, NicAT .AT, EURid .EU, AFNIC .FR and many others (including of course VeriSign, NeuStar etc. with the ICANN Registrar).

So yes, we are a small group and I take charge within the team and am currently looking to expand internationally.

If you have any further question, just let me know.

tomazu

@Mr_Tom said:

@tomazu said: It is my understanding that I am required or that at least it is expected that offers on LES should be privileged and/or exclusive for at least a short time period.

I believe that's just the LES exclusive category. I don't think it applies to the standard "offers" category.

thank you, I was not aware of this and as it is my first offer on LES I wanted to play it safe and take care of it more personally anyway :-)

DP

Cool guy and awesome services so far. ?

brunuh

Webhosting24 is the "do-it-yourself" Hosting division/brand of INCUBATEC (Server24 is the Managed Services division/brand). We are a small group of companies active in the hosting, domain and server/cloud space since 2001 (we are also active in the renewable energy sector https://www.incubatec.com/portfolio_category/renewables/ and in real estate https://www.incubatec.com/portfolio_category/realestate/) with offices in Italy and Germany where we also have our NOC (run by webhosting24 GmbH in Munich) and the two main data centres interconnected with dark fiber (we have 18 PoPs worldwide and we plan to further expand in 2021). We have an ICANN Registrar (Own Identity, Inc.) and are members of RIPE (https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/it.incubatec-com.html & https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/de.webhosting24.html) and have our own AS-numbers and IP-addresses. We are accredited at Registro ccTLD .IT, NicAT .AT, EURid .EU, AFNIC .FR and many others (including of course VeriSign, NeuStar etc. with the ICANN Registrar).

Oh, man, that's really impressive!

add_iT

Why You are using paypal subscription at checkout ??

tomazu

@ddnang02 said:
Why You are using paypal subscription at checkout ??

What's wrong with that? You can cancel the PP subscription at any time and T&C clearly state the recurring nature.

Unixfy

Do you offer BGP sessions? The location is very nice

add_iT

@tomazu said:

@ddnang02 said:
Why You are using paypal subscription at checkout ??

What's wrong with that? You can cancel the PP subscription at any time and T&C clearly state the recurring nature.

OK

You did not give /48 IPv6 as advertised

My VPS provisioned with just /64 IPv6 subnet

tomazu

@Unixfy said:
Do you offer BGP sessions? The location is very nice

yes, but currently BGP sessions are manually set up and the usual conditions apply for announcing your own ranges (LOA etc.).

tomazu

@ddnang02 said:

@tomazu said:

@ddnang02 said:
Why You are using paypal subscription at checkout ??

What's wrong with that? You can cancel the PP subscription at any time and T&C clearly state the recurring nature.

OK

You did not give /48 IPv6 as advertised

My VPS provisioned with just /64 IPv6 subnet

sorry about that, could you please stop and start your VPS from the control panel? Then you should be able to see and use your /48 IPv6 subnet.

brunuh

@tomazu said:

man, your website seems get stuck, it responses so slowly

tomazu

@brunuh said:

@tomazu said:

man, your website seems get stuck, it responses so slowly

the nightly weekend database backup of our billing backend started.. it should be responsive soon again.

brunuh

the nightly weekend database backup of our billing backend started.. it should be responsive soon again.

the website is already normal, but the vps is still pending...almost half an hour

tomazu

@brunuh said:

the nightly weekend database backup of our billing backend started.. it should be responsive soon again.

the website is already normal, but the vps is still pending...almost half an hour

then probably the order got stuck for manual verification. Have you used a valid address, no VPN IP etc. for signup and/or during checkout?

I have manually approved your order for the time being, but please see the message sent on Webhosting24.

Thank you for the order!

brunuh

@tomazu said:
I have manually approved your order for the time being, but please see the message sent on Webhosting24.

I reply it with some required information, it has created a support ticket in Info department.
Please check

cybertech

anyone has any....bench?

DP

@cybertech said:
anyone has any....bench?

# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2020-12-29                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sun 14 Feb 2021 07:24:18 AM CET

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz
CPU cores  : 2 @ 2399.996 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 1.9 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 20.6 GiB

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 267.89 MB/s  (66.9k) | 2.52 GB/s    (39.5k)
Write      | 268.60 MB/s  (67.1k) | 2.54 GB/s    (39.7k)
Total      | 536.49 MB/s (134.1k) | 5.07 GB/s    (79.2k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 3.10 GB/s     (6.0k) | 2.89 GB/s     (2.8k)
Write      | 3.27 GB/s     (6.3k) | 3.08 GB/s     (3.0k)
Total      | 6.38 GB/s    (12.4k) | 5.98 GB/s     (5.8k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 905 Mbits/sec   | 563 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 931 Mbits/sec   | 339 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 964 Mbits/sec   | 583 Mbits/sec
Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | 208 Mbits/sec   | 40.7 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 424 Mbits/sec   | 109 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 138 Mbits/sec   | 72.4 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 331 Mbits/sec   | 91.1 Mbits/sec
Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | 171 Mbits/sec   | 51.4 Mbits/sec

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 384 Mbits/sec   | 292 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 366 Mbits/sec   | 473 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 393 Mbits/sec   | 431 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 118 Mbits/sec   | 89.4 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 109 Mbits/sec   | 92.7 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 736
Multi Core      | 1467
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/6494470

cybertech

redacted

sorry wrong thread

tomazu

---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 905 Mbits/sec   | 563 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 931 Mbits/sec   | 339 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 964 Mbits/sec   | 583 Mbits/sec
Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | 208 Mbits/sec   | 40.7 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 424 Mbits/sec   | 109 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 138 Mbits/sec   | 72.4 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 331 Mbits/sec   | 91.1 Mbits/sec
Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | 171 Mbits/sec   | 51.4 Mbits/sec

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 384 Mbits/sec   | 292 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 366 Mbits/sec   | 473 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 393 Mbits/sec   | 431 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 118 Mbits/sec   | 89.4 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 109 Mbits/sec   | 92.7 Mbits/sec

FYI:
The hardware nodes are connected 2x10GE, but each VPS is limited to 1Gbps (as can also be seen in this benchmark)..

phart

So uhhh using any uploaded ISO to install (either BSD or Linux) I get no network connection at all? Works fine with the provided templates though.

Also I can't see any way to remove my credit card details from my account, I don't remember checking any option to store it during payment.

tomazu

@phart said:
So uhhh using any uploaded ISO to install (either BSD or Linux) I get no network connection at all? Works fine with the provided templates though.

AFAIK for Debian 10 we need to turn off the network management of the orchestrating software when installing from ISO, so please open a ticket to verify if that is the issue.

Also I can't see any way to remove my credit card details from my account, I don't remember checking any option to store it during payment.

we do not store the credit card data ourselves, but get a token from Stripe. If you are unable to remove it from the billing panel, again please open a support ticket and it will be manually removed.

phart

@tomazu said:

@phart said:
So uhhh using any uploaded ISO to install (either BSD or Linux) I get no network connection at all? Works fine with the provided templates though.

AFAIK for Debian 10 we need to turn off the network management of the orchestrating software when installing from ISO, so please open a ticket to verify if that is the issue.

Also I can't see any way to remove my credit card details from my account, I don't remember checking any option to store it during payment.

we do not store the credit card data ourselves, but get a token from Stripe. If you are unable to remove it from the billing panel, again please open a support ticket and it will be manually removed.

Support are very helpful and fast, VPS goes well, nice deal!

tomazu

Thank you very much @phart for the nice feedback, keep it coming ;-)

brunuh

@tomazu Hello, sir, I find a serious problem about network that the testing ip(194.39.205.4) gets a heavy packet loss connecting to the global internet
http://ping.pe/194.39.205.4
you can see it on this website

tomazu

@brunuh said:
@tomazu Hello, sir, I find a serious problem about network that the testing ip(194.39.205.4) gets a heavy packet loss connecting to the global internet
http://ping.pe/194.39.205.4
you can see it on this website

thank you for the feedback, I have verified directly on the node and the ICMP traffic level currently is very high so that ICMP packets are getting dropped/rate-limited by the firewall.

I will raise the limit for ICMP traffic, but this is not a network problem, it just seems that the testing IP is being heavily tested at the moment - this has nothing to do with your server or the network generally :-)

UPDATE:
I have adjusted the ICMP traffic rate, could you please test again?

brunuh

@tomazu said:
I have adjusted the ICMP traffic rate, could you please test again?

testing ip (194.39.205.4) result

my server ip(194.39.205.x9) result

the testing ip (194.39.205.4) ICMP result seems much better now, in terms of global internet
But compared with my server ip(194.39.205.x9), the testing ip displays much worse performance when connecting to China internet, you can see the contrast through pictures above.

brentybh

I also noticed that they are limiting the ICMP traffic. However, about 15% packet loss in China is really normal for non-China optimized network s.

brunuh

@brentybh said:
I also noticed that they are limiting the ICMP traffic. However, about 15% packet loss in China is really normal for non-China optimized network s.

if you look at the pictures carefully, you would notice that official testing ip (194.39.205.4) get red with every China node, but my actual server ip(194.39.205.x9) get red with only half of the China nodes, the other half is total green.
That's abnormal, right?

Rengar

@phart said: Also I can't see any way to remove my credit card details from my account, I don't remember checking any option to store it during payment.

This has been requested many times on the WHMCS forums and they still haven't added such option on the customer end too.

@brentybh said: I also noticed that they are limiting the ICMP traffic. However, about 15% packet loss in China is really normal for non-China optimized network s.

That's correct, this is normal for non-china optimized networks especially during busy hours.

Sydney seems to have a higher latency than usual as well but I guess that's mostly towards the Vultr server that ping.pe uses as with most german providers I get around 256ms on that node. Using a different test location than Vultr for Sydney gives me better latency/routing results.

tomazu

@Rengar said:

@phart said: Also I can't see any way to remove my credit card details from my account, I don't remember checking any option to store it during payment.

This has been requested many times on the WHMCS forums and they still haven't added such option on the customer end too.

yes, this is done manually - as it seems a custom hook would be possible to get this done, but currently you need to open a ticket if you want the Stripe token to be removed from your account.

@brentybh said: I also noticed that they are limiting the ICMP traffic. However, about 15% packet loss in China is really normal for non-China optimized network s.

That's correct, this is normal for non-china optimized networks especially during busy hours.

sometimes even for China optimized networks :-)

Sydney seems to have a higher latency than usual as well but I guess that's mostly towards the Vultr server that ping.pe uses as with most german providers I get around 256ms on that node. Using a different test location than Vultr for Sydney gives me better latency/routing results.

that is correct and I think we can shave off 60-80ms from that route towards Vultr by routing over Cogent! Will optimize for the routes displayed on ping.pe as it seems those are the ones that matter ;-)

Rengar

@tomazu said: sometimes even for China optimized networks :-)

Indeed

@tomazu said: that is correct and I think we can shave off 60-80ms from that route towards Vultr by routing over Cogent! Will optimize for the routes displayed on ping.pe as it seems those are the ones that matter ;-)

ping.pe is indeed pretty popular but I'd always do additional tests as in this case.

New customer here and the performance of your service is great so far, will be able to provide a better feedback in a few months.

tomazu

The new nodes with SSD local storage (not NVMe!) are ready to round off this special week:

GOLDENOX40 (21 EUR/year):
2 vCores (fair share CPU usage) Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz
2GB RAM memory
40 GB SSD RAID5 Storage
5 TB monthly BW @ 1Gbit/s
1 IPv4 address
1 IPv6 /48 subnet
21 EURO per year (+VAT if applicable)
https://www.webhosting24.com/cp/cart.php?a=add&pid=465

GOLDENOX20 (10 EUR/year)
1 vCore (fair share CPU usage) Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz
1GB RAM memory
20 GB SSD RAID5 Storage
2TB monthly BW @ 1Gbit/s
1 IPv4 Address
1 IPv6 /48 subnet
10 EURO per year (+VAT if applicable)
https://www.webhosting24.com/cp/cart.php?a=add&pid=464

swat4

@tomazu said:

Very nice to see Traditional Chinese (not Simplified Chinese). Not many people are wise enough to choose this.

@tomazu Kung Fei Faat Choi! (wishing you a lot of wealth)

tomazu

@swat4 said:
Very nice to see Traditional Chinese (not Simplified Chinese). Not many people are wise enough to choose this.
@tomazu Kung Fei Faat Choi! (wishing you a lot of wealth)

thank you very much. In the coming days I will try to optimize the routing towards China and Asia in general.. as it seems it requires manual intervention, it should already be better and will be even better - at least from what we can do from our part - in the next days.

I appreciate all feedback.