LES v2 - last update before it goes live

somik · July 21

@AnthonySmith said:

@Fritz said:
Is it based on Vanilla?

Yep, codebase updated for PHP 8.4

Updated with AI?

Amadex · July 21

If you like Italy, you can co-exist with root.hr on our dedicated server for free.

Otherwise https://www.ionos.com/servers/vps

quicksilver03 · July 21

I've found Clouvider in Ashburn to provide a good service, the network was faster and more stable than other providers in that area.

AnthonySmith · July 21

@somik said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@Fritz said:
Is it based on Vanilla?

Yep, codebase updated for PHP 8.4

Updated with AI?

No, as per my previous updates, the amount of updates needed to make vanilla php 8.4 compatible is next to nothing.

I commented that I expected that to be the hard part, I budgeted a few weeks, it took a few hours, if that, its crazy to me that they have not made compatibility updates for the latest open source version, they are letting the platform die in the open source space in favour of commercial hosting, and I think they shot themselves in the foot. they built a narrative that vanilla is dead, and it just needed a mild painkiller.

Many of the plugins are done with AI to functional standards, then passed for code review to a human with a Dev who laughs a bit, and corrects, secures, patches stuff up, then it's back to me to redo functional testing.

Since fable released though... There has been less laughing...

That's why it's taking a while but at least I am confident in it when it goes live.

david3 · July 21

@stupidgenius said:

@jaden said: GreenCloud has some lowend options in Ashburn

They also have some options in NYC https://greencloudvps.com/billing/store/budget-kvm-sale

It looks like GreenCloud has some VDS available in New York, also.

Wolveix · July 21

@AnthonySmith said:
Looking for strong recommendations, I was going to put it on quickpacket, but they only do dedicated servers and it feels like LES should really be running on a VPS.

FWIW, QuickPacket have ZenSix for VPS options: https://zensix.com/

AnthonySmith · July 21

@Wolveix said:

@AnthonySmith said:
Looking for strong recommendations, I was going to put it on quickpacket, but they only do dedicated servers and it feels like LES should really be running on a VPS.

FWIW, QuickPacket have ZenSix for VPS options: https://zensix.com/

Oh, i did not realise... why they not advertising?

I dont think 1 core or half a core would really do well for LES, but I am actually doing the server optimisations now as it happens ready to take les v2.

Probably for the short term I will use OVH because it was quick and available (there is a lesson in there for hosts, I guess) but I will move it around as required when the dust settles; the chances of me doing this migration without issues is probably close to 0

somik · July 21

I thought the new LES would be released in a few hours from the time of this thread for some reason...

WSS · July 21

> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

AnthonySmith · July 21

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

mikho · July 21

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

WSS · July 21

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

WSS · July 21

This guy. I seem to recall he went on and on about getting the license plate 'troll'.

AnthonySmith · July 21

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

WSS · July 21

@AnthonySmith said:

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

KuJoe. That sounds more correct for dragonwebhost or whatever it was called. I can't remember Chris' handle for the life of me.

MikeA · July 21

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

You're probably thinking of Fab0zzi

AnthonySmith · July 21

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

KuJoe. That sounds more correct for dragonwebhost or whatever it was called. I can't remember Chris' handle for the life of me.

securedragon

mikho · July 21

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

KuJoe. That sounds more correct for dragonwebhost or whatever it was called. I can't remember Chris' handle for the life of me.

Iirc, one of the first lowend host who made his own panel.

AnthonySmith · July 21

@mikho said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

KuJoe. That sounds more correct for dragonwebhost or whatever it was called. I can't remember Chris' handle for the life of me.

Iirc, one of the first lowend host who made his own panel.

Yeah, not long after buyvm i think.

AnthonySmith · July 21

@mikho said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

KuJoe. That sounds more correct for dragonwebhost or whatever it was called. I can't remember Chris' handle for the life of me.

Iirc, one of the first lowend host who made his own panel.

Yeah, not long after buyvm i think.

AnthonySmith · July 21

@mikho said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@mikho said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

Thats Chris Fabozzi you are thinking of.
He is with Hostpapa now. (CC brand of some sort)

ah right yes, amazing how you forget these things.

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:
> @mikho said:

Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

Every so often he still pops up on my FB.

Is that the guy from CVPS ?

I don't remember CVPS. It's been roughly a decade since I've really had anything to do with hosting. But if that was a Biloh job, then no. I remember him from KnownHost and I seem to recall he had something with the name dragon in it. Really weird control panel.

Thats right, although now maybe we are confusing Kujoe and wyvern with Chris Miller, I think i remember Chris now, he was the good Chris. haha

KuJoe. That sounds more correct for dragonwebhost or whatever it was called. I can't remember Chris' handle for the life of me.

Iirc, one of the first lowend host who made his own panel.

Yeah, not long after buyvm i think.

@somik said:
I thought the new LES would be released in a few hours from the time of this thread for some reason...

Probably tomorrow late morning early afternoon (UK time)

Just doing performance tuning as much as possible at the moment, I could push it live now but if anything goes wrong i dont have the time left today to fix it.

And honestly, it's a bit messy, lots of things clashing visually; everyone will complain about the karma visualisations etc etc, but it's all manageable, and I will adapt it. I think it will take a week of feedback to settle so the majority are happy or so that people can enable/disable what they don't like etc.

lapua · July 21

@AnthonySmith said: I feel like things are going to end up on Vultr at this rate.

no no no not vultr

@Advin please help!

WSS · July 21

TRRIPLEEEPOST COMBO @AnthonySmith

Spammer.

mikho · July 21

@WSS said:
TRRIPLEEEPOST COMBO @AnthonySmith

Spammer.

Trying to up his post count to get more Karma.

rpqu · July 21

@AnthonySmith Can't we make it distributed, do round-robin or something?

lapua · July 21

@bikegremlin said: Knownhost

where can i find the unmanaged vps from knownhost?

AnthonySmith · July 21

@lapua said:

@bikegremlin said: Knownhost

where can i find the unmanaged vps from knownhost?

https://www.knownhost.com/unmanaged-vps>; @rpqu said:

@AnthonySmith Can't we make it distributed, do round-robin or something?

haha, I mean... I guess, LES nodes could be fun, actually fuck it, lets make it p2p

vish · July 21

What if....

1 - you make all the hosting providers donate a vps on their network for LES
2 - have @Neoon do his routing magic and create a massive CDN spread out over all of the donated VPS'
3 - ???
4 - Profit $$

AnthonySmith · July 21

@vish said:
What if....

1 - you make all the hosting providers donate a vps on their network for LES
2 - have @Neoon do his routing magic and create a massive CDN spread out over all of the donated VPS'
3 - ???
4 - Profit $$

step 3 is underpants

Neoon · July 21

@vish said:
What if....

1 - you make all the hosting providers donate a vps on their network for LES
2 - have @Neoon do his routing magic and create a massive CDN spread out over all of the donated VPS'
3 - ???
4 - Profit $$

Wireguard and OSPF is amaze, I ended up adding to much bloat though.
Gonna switch internally to a minimalistic version.

yoursunny · July 21

@Neoon said:

@vish said:
What if....

1 - you make all the hosting providers donate a vps on their network for LES
2 - have @Neoon do his routing magic and create a massive CDN spread out over all of the donated VPS'
3 - ???
4 - Profit $$

Wireguard and OSPF is amaze, I ended up adding to much bloat though.
Gonna switch internally to a minimalistic version.

Decentralized Internet is amaze, we ended up changing the network layer and transport layer protocols though.
Gonna switch internally to a new IP version.

ChrisMiller · July 22

@mikho said:
Now I remember why Knownhost triggered a memory.... Chris Miller used to work there.
Finally, I can go to sleep and stop thinking about this

@AnthonySmith said: Damn it, why do I remember that name?

Strange who is that guy?

I haven't been with KH since start of 2019. I went to work for QuickPacket, then another then ended up at WebPros where I've been the last like few years. lol

ChrisMiller · July 22

@WSS said: This guy. I seem to recall he went on and on about getting the license plate 'troll'.

I actually have "VPN" as my Michigan License Plate now. I still have my Alabama "TROLL" Plate on the front of my Mach-E

@AnthonySmith said: he was the good Chris

WSS · July 22

@ChrisMiller said:

@WSS said: This guy. I seem to recall he went on and on about getting the license plate 'troll'.

I actually have "VPN" as my Michigan License Plate now. I still have my Alabama "TROLL" Plate on the front of my Mach-E

It's been a few years. Good to see ya.

ChrisMiller · July 22

@WSS said: It's been a few years. Good to see ya.

I keep meaning to txt you but haven't in forever. haha

WSS · July 22

@ChrisMiller said:

@WSS said: It's been a few years. Good to see ya.

I keep meaning to txt you but haven't in forever. haha

Not sure what number you have, but unless it ends in 5, it's wrong.
Also, I'm a Mayor.

AnthonySmith · July 22

@WSS said:

@ChrisMiller said:

@WSS said: It's been a few years. Good to see ya.

I keep meaning to txt you but haven't in forever. haha

Not sure what number you have, but unless it ends in 5, it's wrong.
Also, I'm a Mayor.

Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

somik · July 22

@AnthonySmith said:

@WSS said:

@ChrisMiller said:

@WSS said: It's been a few years. Good to see ya.

I keep meaning to txt you but haven't in forever. haha

Not sure what number you have, but unless it ends in 5, it's wrong.
Also, I'm a Mayor.

Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

Marbles has bee lost. Screws are no longer fastened tightly. Medicine dosages has been missed...

ChrisMiller · July 22

@AnthonySmith said: Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

Yes I even sent him Dick pics, to congratulate him! I did still have his current phone #.

AnthonySmith · July 22

@ChrisMiller said:

@AnthonySmith said: Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

Yes I even sent him Dick pics, to congratulate him! I did still have his current phone #.

Feels true, so it probably is.

WSS · July 22

@AnthonySmith said:

@ChrisMiller said:

@AnthonySmith said: Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

Yes I even sent him Dick pics, to congratulate him! I did still have his current phone #.

Feels true, so it probably is.

It is. You can Google me.

jaden · July 22

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@ChrisMiller said:

@AnthonySmith said: Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

Yes I even sent him Dick pics, to congratulate him! I did still have his current phone #.

Feels true, so it probably is.

It is. You can Google me.

@WSS for mayor of LES! Your mayor has been doubled

WSS · July 22

@jaden said:

@WSS said:

@AnthonySmith said:

@ChrisMiller said:

@AnthonySmith said: Oh my god, please tell me that's true?

Yes I even sent him Dick pics, to congratulate him! I did still have his current phone #.

Feels true, so it probably is.

It is. You can Google me.

@WSS for mayor of LES! Your mayor has been doubled

A vote for me is a vote for #dicks in every pot!

rpqu · July 22

@AnthonySmith said:

@rpqu said:
@AnthonySmith Can't we make it distributed, do round-robin or something?

haha, I mean... I guess, LES nodes could be fun, actually fuck it, lets make it p2p

Yeah, more nodes across more hosts means more higher availability. DDoS problem? Your hosts is going to absorb it

AnthonySmith · July 22

Hit a few snags.

But it's all done now; LES will go live tomorrow, as again, I have run out of time today in case anything goes wrong.

Also, the maintenance mode in this vanilla install is not working, so its just going to be "wtf is going on, what's this mess, omg cached JS and CSS nightmare and then hard refresh for everyone" with some random up/down time in between as the DNS changes over.

Not_Oles · July 22

@AnthonySmith

Thank you for all the work you have put into the LES upgrades! I look forward to tomorrow!

Best to you and to all LESbians!

Tom

SocksAreComfortable · July 22

WSS · July 23

#dicks2.0

lapua · July 23

the colored threads are special...

willie · July 23

Owch, my eyes! Is that "karma glow" on the topic pages? A new feature? It looks awful. Is there a way to turn it off?

LES v2 - last update before it goes live

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