Looking for 3 servers in Dallas
Hi!
I'm looking for 3 (or 4) servers in Dallas, US.
For each one:
- Different node.
- RAM 4gb
- CPU: 2+ cores. Something more powerful than an E5v4.
- Storage: 80gb - 100gb SSD or NVMe.
- Network: 1gbps minimun
- Private network would be nice.
- $5/m per server is fine?
I'm trying to build a database cluster because I like to suffer.
My compute resources are in Dallas so I can't use another location. Unless I move my dedicated servers... but where? and it would more expensive these days... can we kill AI?





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Consider @DartNode @georgedatacenter @crunchbits
What sort of db cluster you setting up that won't fit on your existing dedis?
@imok Why did you choose Dallas to begin with? Where are you located?
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I don't want everything to die at the same time. And I only have 2 dedis in Dallas. I want to use this db cluster for all my apps.
In Peru. Lowest latency after Miami.
Dallas was the cheapest like five years ago, I got a few good deals for the hardware and it's still there. Lots of storage, RAM and not-so-ancient CPUs, but they are almost full and I'm just waiting for the drives to fail. After that, I will be moving my stuff to another city, maybe.
Ok it looks like Virginia is the 2nd lowest now. Something changed, ping increased.
We can do something for you on Ryzen nodes in Dallas TX, but may just be a hair more expensive.
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They offer VPS servers with private network in Dallas, USA.
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I'm out of stock in Dallas practically, and I can't do very cheap deals now with memory prices, since I only build new hardware. Either way I don't do private networking unfortunately. Thanks though.
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Thank you all!
Got a server from @serverpoint, not the fastest but cheap enough
I'll test it tomorrow and see if I would get the additional 3.
Intel Xeon E5 v4
4 vCPUs at 2.1 GHz
8 GB RAM
100 GB fast storage
10 TB of data transfer per month
1 IPv4 address
1 Gbps network port
BTW, I'm going to try PIGSTY https://pigsty.io/
I’m afraid their disk speed isn’t enough for an etcd cluster. I use Patroni with etcd myself.
Sad. I'm not an expert with that. What speed should I be looking for?
YABS from the new server:
It seems @arirang is correct. Disk speed is not enough, maybe because it's Ceph.
Sad.
To be honest, it’s hard to get consistently stable disk performance in a virtualized environment. Even for a small cluster, I’d want to see at least 500 IOPS sustained. If you run a 10-minute test and the IOPS periodically drop or spike, that’s not ideal for an etcd cluster.
That said, it won’t necessarily cause frequent leader changes. However, if the leader experiences enough instability, a new leader election may be triggered, and you’ll likely start seeing warning messages accumulate in the logs.
A high 4K score in YABS doesn’t necessarily mean the storage is suitable for etcd. You can still encounter IOPS drops and latency spikes, so it’s better to validate it using the command below or a dedicated etcd benchmarking tool.
For etcd, the 99th percentile and maximum latency values are much more important than the average.
I’ve tested quite a few providers, and only a handful consistently met that requirement. That said, even they occasionally have spikes—it’s just the nature of virtualized environments.
Not sure if the VPS from ServerPoint is transferable. If anybody knows and wants it, let me know.
It's not suitable for my use case but it seems good for the price.
@imok @arirang
I don't understand much about kubernetes and etcd but I decided to try running a modified test command on the server I recently got from QuickPacket (s/libaio/sync and other changes cuz it's running NetBSD -- not sure about whether that ioengine change or other changes make an important difference):
If I understand right, the median score was [206] 0.20 milliseconds and the 99th percentile was [314] 0.31 milliseconds. Apparently the production standard might be under 2.0 milliseconds, so it looks like maybe the test completed within about one tenth of the allowed time? Is what was done here at all meaningful?
For this month and a few days more, I also have another server in Santa Clara, running Debian. If you want to try something on either server or on both, please let me know.
@qps you do colo in Ashburn? I have two Dl360p gen9, 1U, dual E5-2699v3, 8x SSD that I'm interested to move in there
Yes, DM me to discuss.
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You can request a refund. We'll grant since the server doesn't suit your needs.
I am curious though. How busy is your etcd database? Hundreds of megabits per second? We control the IO rate in order to reduce possible abuse.
Be aware also that we offer dedicated servers in Dallas, with fast RAID storage and also NVMe drives. That could work for you, and we do provide private networking between your dedicated machines.
That's awesome but no worries.
Certainly it won't be a busy DB. I'm trying to make a diagnosis with multiple benchmarks before buying 3 servers and starting all the work. I'm trying to prevent errors but now I see it can be a way to learn. Maybe I'll try.
Are you just mentioning the state of the environment, or do you mean etcd can get me into trouble with shared resources?
Nice, but I can't afford those prices 😅
Just mentioning why you see the test results you saw.
Our storage cluster are certainly capable of far more than that, but each VM has a specific iops/IO rate applied.
I assume though most of the data in etcd would be held in RAM for reading, thus, disk IO rate doesn't matter much; RAM would matter more. Unless you are using etcd to mostly do writing at a rate of thousands of iops or hundreds of megabits per second.
Etcd is not an in-memory database. Every Raft heartbeat and consensus write requires a synchronous fdatasync to disk. If disk I/O latency spikes due to strict rate limits, the leader misses its heartbeat interval, triggering constant re-elections regardless of available RAM.
No offense, I already run several VMs with you, but due to these per-VM I/O limits, they aren't quite suitable for running a latency-sensitive etcd cluster."
YABS results look fantastic on paper (37k IOPS, 1.5 GB/s throughput). However, etcd requires synchronous fdatasync=1 writes (iodepth=1). A 10-minute actual fdatasync test reveals the real storage performance:
Of course, we could adjust the settings and increase the heartbeat timeout to prevent immediate leader loss.
However, in actual production, critical operations like API responses and etcd compaction could still freeze the entire cluster. Since the disk utilization is already hitting nearly 100% at a mere 130–150 IOPS, there is zero headroom left when those heavy background tasks kick in.
Based on the last replies here regarding I/O use it seems like a dedicated server is the best option, not a virtual/shared environment for high disk I/O.
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None taken.
I was just curious. I would have thought that for reading, Linux would cache most of the data in RAM, which is what I was discussing earlier.
Let us know if you wish to use it or cancel it. We'll gladly send a refund your way.