$399 for 10 years is about 40 dollar per year. That is NOT enough even for just electricity. And I doubt anyone was going to drop 400 dollars on a server from a domain registered on just 1 year ago on 21-Dec-2023
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Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
y'all hating on this but imagine if you are the owner of the last 3 vCore Intel Xeon E5-2660 v4 @ 2.00 GHz on planet earth in the year 2124 doesn't that make the value more
@Otus9051 said:
y'all hating on this but imagine if you are the owner of the last 3 vCore Intel Xeon E5-2660 v4 @ 2.00 GHz on planet earth in the year 2124 doesn't that make the value more
no. go ahead and buy
if i were you though i would stock up on crystals.
@sicksaint said:
Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
I guess the 99 years mentioned is for provisioning
@sicksaint said:
Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
I guess the 99 years mentioned is for provisioning
Just to be clear, I was referring to the pre-sale deal posted on your website. Initially, Lisbon ( Portugal) was mentioned as the location of the proposed data center and the proposed provision date was mentioned as on or before 14th January.
For some reason the data center location was changed to Germany due to inability to secure good deal as mentioned in the earlier post by you and the proposed provisioning data got changed to around 16th -20th January.
I chose 3 years deal instead of 99 years deal although there were other timeframes ( 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years) to choose from.
Can you please confirm if this presale deal is still being worked out by you as I can't see any reference to this on the website?
@sicksaint said:
Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
I guess the 99 years mentioned is for provisioning
Just to be clear, I was referring to the pre-sale deal posted on your website. Initially, Lisbon ( Portugal) was mentioned as the location of the proposed data center and the proposed provision date was mentioned as on or before 14th January.
For some reason the data center location was changed to Germany due to inability to secure good deal as mentioned in the earlier post by you and the proposed provisioning data got changed to around 16th -20th January.
I chose 3 years deal instead of 99 years deal although there were other timeframes ( 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years) to choose from.
Can you please confirm if this presale deal is still being worked out by you as I can't see any reference to this on the website?
Seller needs to travel to the data center, perform a vibe check on the remote hands, verify the fire extinguishers, and personally install the server.
After all, the server has to last there for 99 years.
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@yoursunny said:
Seller needs to travel to the data center, perform a vibe check on the remote hands, verify the fire extinguishers, and personally install the server.
After all, the server has to last there for 99 years.
During those 99 years, data center's intermittent power outages were as heart-pounding as watching a buyer's ECG doing continuous push-ups.
@sicksaint said:
Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
I guess the 99 years mentioned is for provisioning
Just to be clear, I was referring to the pre-sale deal posted on your website. Initially, Lisbon ( Portugal) was mentioned as the location of the proposed data center and the proposed provision date was mentioned as on or before 14th January.
For some reason the data center location was changed to Germany due to inability to secure good deal as mentioned in the earlier post by you and the proposed provisioning data got changed to around 16th -20th January.
I chose 3 years deal instead of 99 years deal although there were other timeframes ( 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years) to choose from.
Can you please confirm if this presale deal is still being worked out by you as I can't see any reference to this on the website?
Thanks!
can you give me your vps for free?
Why not? I wish I bought the popcorn instead. > @sicksaint said:
@sicksaint said:
Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
I guess the 99 years mentioned is for provisioning
Just to be clear, I was referring to the pre-sale deal posted on your website. Initially, Lisbon ( Portugal) was mentioned as the location of the proposed data center and the proposed provision date was mentioned as on or before 14th January.
For some reason the data center location was changed to Germany due to inability to secure good deal as mentioned in the earlier post by you and the proposed provisioning data got changed to around 16th -20th January.
I chose 3 years deal instead of 99 years deal although there were other timeframes ( 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years) to choose from.
Can you please confirm if this presale deal is still being worked out by you as I can't see any reference to this on the website?
Thanks!
I just received an email from C-Servers regarding the new server details. I haven't got time to log on to the server yet. A bit of learning curve as it is ipv6.
@cservers said: I am handling this and in talks with multiple datacenters as we speak (so, no basements) for a long-term relationship,
But the thing is, basement operations are the tastiest!
I can run a basement server until the rest of my life.
Host it in a datacenter it starts to get difficult...
reduced I/O operations and disk optimizations were tested on Zeta4 (to be deployed soon) and done all across the board on all three servers (this one, Zeta1 and Zeta3), with improvements for 512k and 1M on all servers (and 64k on the Zeta 3)
Underlying kernel is much more recent (= more performant)
Has livepatching to ensure additional uptime
Among other changes. Which were basically why it took so long as well.
We've also adjusted the "99 year plans" according to your feedback.
This is now a separate section called "MultiVPS One-Time Paid Servers", the writing was intentionally made clearer.
They are now called "DynamicVPS", have a lower one-off cost, and actually have multiple differences:
they are pegged (more or less) to equivalent products, so that customers always know what they are buying
predict dynamic growth over time of vCores, RAM, disk and bandwidth, tied to the respective product ranges they address
are not tied to a direct CPU, although by product range equivalency they are always tied to a regular CPU (the same other customers are having)
are not tied to a specific location, but are tied to a specific region (Europe, at this moment)
guarantee at least the IPv6.
It gets much closer to the Servarica offer, in that sense.
Stock is internally limited to ~5% of the entire pool of available VPSes, for sustainability reasons.
We are now working to start to offer storage servers (and services) very soon.
Please do offer cheap storage, however make it good.
Storage from host_c is usable and stable however so far any storage from Hostbbr is kinda slow and slugish.
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The request leaves breadcrumbs along each node it traverses.
When the response is found, it follows these breadcrumbs in the reverse path back to the requester.
There are no addresses, just domain names and single-hop wireless links identified by ifindex.
Both RIPE and ARIN deadpooled, so is ICANN.
Each person gets assigned a free-for-life domain name at birth.
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I don't know if 99 years is reliable or not, but
I bought a natvps for three months,
and after using it for a few days,
I couldn't connect to it,
they said there was a problem with their server node,
I used the web vnc to log in,
and ipv4 didn't work
@hobenzun said:
I don't know if 99 years is reliable or not, but
I bought a natvps for three months,
and after using it for a few days,
I couldn't connect to it,
they said there was a problem with their server node,
I used the web vnc to log in,
and ipv4 didn't work
Latest reports, they seem to have fixed the ipv4 issue
Question for @cservers and im gonna be a dick about it because I think all "lifetime" service agreements (or 99 years if we wanna be pedantic) are the scum of the industry and have no value to them apart from to swindle some short term revenue for the books.
What's your plan in 7 years when the datacenter these hypervisor nodes are in goes under or is bought out by Google to turn into a new AI factory? By that point your operating expenses such as power (especially for this older hardware) and bandwidth have already eaten significantly into that initial profit margin. Now you have to pay $$$ to safely move all of the hardware to your new datacenter which the op-ex costs are unknown at this time?
Ok ok, you choose to renew the hardware every 5 years instead, this gives you more flexibility with updated hardware to save on power costs as well as in the case of a dc move you could just recycle the old nodes I suppose as a cheaper alternative to moving them. But then where is the cap-ex for these hardware renewals coming from?
The reason I get so aggro about this is because its a money-grab plain and simple. Any company (yes Zap this includes you) that offers "lifetime" or near lifetime services is destined for the dead-pool. There is no way you can commit to 99 years into the future (hell, the CEO/director of the company will probably be dead before then) for a service agreement for a $400 one-time payment. This is just false advertising plain and simple.
Honestly the fact lowendspirit doesn't ban these types of advertisements is outstanding to me? As end of the day it is straight up just a scam.
@Scaleblade said: Honestly the fact lowendspirit doesn't ban these types of advertisements
Well since you asked ....
It's not an offer thread. It's a thread by the LES Official Troll who started the thread to troll the provider. I expect he did this because he agrees with you that it was a totally unrealistic offer at 99 years and $399. If the OP was somebody shilling the offer I expect it would have been squashed PDQ.
That said, there is no rule against one time payment offers. Personally I try to use some judgement when evaluating "lifetime" offers, and based on this thread I expect that most LES members do as well.
We'll be quite simple here: you're (Scaleblade) assuming multiple things and you clearly didn't read the entire topic. Only that justifies references which are clearly not updated and have changed throughout.
But some quick bulletpoints:
Telehouse, as a datacenter, going in? The company that exists since 1988 (and in Germany since 2012)? Not a chance.
Purchases by Google can happen to anyone, but don't happen to everyone.
The one-time payment for these VPSes is very limited in stock (in comparison to the global VPS pool), as we've said earlier on this topic, for sustainability reasons. It's absolutely obvious it wouldn't be sustainable if we had like 40 or 50%. It's 5%.
Obviously we won't disclose our policy for hardware renewal, but it's obviously predicted as well, as it has to be with, well, any provider.
Your answer assumes we are irresponsible. It's solely your opinion.
Lastly - we didn't and won't advertise these lifetime offers at this or any forum. You didn't see any post from ours with a link. They are well outside of the pricing interval, wouldn't be abiding by the rules. This was done by a different user which we are unrelated to.
One thing is for sure, it's not a nice way to do/enter a conversation - and another thing is for sure, we will keep doing our current one-time payment offer.
@cservers said:
We'll be quite simple here: you're (Scaleblade) assuming multiple things and you clearly didn't read the entire topic. Only that justifies references which are clearly not updated and have changed throughout.
Best regards.
This response worries me of your fundamental misunderstanding of this industry and should be a cautionary tale to anyone that reads this. Let me break down your points for everyone else to see:
Telehouse, as a datacenter, going in? The company that exists since 1988 (and in Germany since 2012)? Not a chance.
Telehouse is 10% of the size of Equinix (the New York datacenter that I used as an example), land acquisition as well as legislation and hell even the cost of power in Germany is well above anything within Telehouse' demise. We use Telehouse ourselves in London, they're great and I 100% recommend it to anyone, but you want to convince me that if lets say in 10 years there is a massive shift in Germany's power pricing that isn't going to completely destroy your margin and ability to offer this service not at a loss?
Purchases by Google can happen to anyone, but don't happen to everyone.
It was an example of a large datacenter being bought out by another party and everyone inside being kicked out a year later. Not a what will happen, purely a possibility.
The one-time payment for these VPSes is very limited in stock (in comparison to the global VPS pool), as we've said earlier on this topic, for sustainability reasons. It's absolutely obvious it wouldn't be sustainable if we had like 40 or 50%. It's 5%.
That's good, basically as long as you're not a client within that 5% you're not totally false advertising then.
Obviously we won't disclose our policy for hardware renewal, but it's obviously predicted as well, as it has to be with, well, any provider.
Understandable and I respect it.
But what I am trying to caution everyone (and who knows maybe I might even be cautioning you at this point) that expecting anyone to take a one-time $399 payment to basically then provide you a service (with very variable monthly costs to operate) should not be a realistic expectation.
Think you can prove me wrong?
I would love this. Honestly if there is a provider out there that can support a business model of this one-time payment for 99 years that would be awesome.
What do I personally believe is the bare minimum to achieve this?
1. Your company be a non-profit with the sole purpose of maintaining internet history (think internet archive structure)
2. You need to have public hardware cycle information as well as operating costs. Breakdowns showing how that each one of those 399 dollars you get is used to maintain hardware, network, infrastructure, staffing, emergency recovery, etc.
3. Transparent funding model as well as public accountability on how you're storing that initial payment, how you're investing it outside of your company to ensure that it doesn't depreciate with time.
If your defense for this whole sham is "I dont advertise it on the forums that its banned on" then I think that tells us everything we need to know about your company and the services it offers.
Thank you @FrankZ for clarifying, that was my mistake, I didn't realize this wasn't an offer thread. @yoursunny you got me bro.
EDIT: I read some of your other replies as admittedly I saw the ludicrousness of this thread and jumped straight to a reply.
C-Servers basically plans to fill their nodes with 5% of these lifetime deals, from what I can tell this utilizes existing nodes that their other VPS lineup sells off of.
Good idea in theory - but along with everything else in my post this entirely relies on the question Can C-Servers sell their main VPS lineup for the next 99 years regardless of regulatory, site or industry change?.
If your answer is yes to this pls dm me the lottery numbers for next week and let me know how much that magic glass ball is gonna cost me cause that's the real deal in this thread, not the vps.
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Can you support pre-authorization of $399, but debit after 99 years?
We know when we'll die.
We plan to buy a 999-year server during our last year of lifetime, so that our legacy lives on for a long time.
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2660v4 is legacy but not that legacy you imagine it to be.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Interesting points were done here. We are evaluating this question.
The 99-year plan is now sold out.
Did anyone here bite?
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We are doing changes to our offer and this was removed. We also can confirm purchases didn't occur for this plan on the pre-sale.
$399 for 10 years is about 40 dollar per year. That is NOT enough even for just electricity. And I doubt anyone was going to drop 400 dollars on a server from a domain registered on just 1 year ago on 21-Dec-2023
Hi @cservers , I made a pre-sale order for 3 years couple of days back and it is yet to be provisioned. Just wondering if this would be processed at all in the coming days or refund would be issued since you've mentioned changes to the offer is being worked out.
y'all hating on this but imagine if you are the owner of the last 3 vCore Intel Xeon E5-2660 v4 @ 2.00 GHz on planet earth in the year 2124 doesn't that make the value more
youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU
no. go ahead and buy
if i were you though i would stock up on crystals.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
I guess the 99 years mentioned is for provisioning
youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU
Hi @cservers,
Just to be clear, I was referring to the pre-sale deal posted on your website. Initially, Lisbon ( Portugal) was mentioned as the location of the proposed data center and the proposed provision date was mentioned as on or before 14th January.
For some reason the data center location was changed to Germany due to inability to secure good deal as mentioned in the earlier post by you and the proposed provisioning data got changed to around 16th -20th January.
I chose 3 years deal instead of 99 years deal although there were other timeframes ( 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years) to choose from.
Can you please confirm if this presale deal is still being worked out by you as I can't see any reference to this on the website?
Thanks!
can you give me your vps for free?
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It feels like the popcorn is about to be ready.
Feeling very tired, let's call it a day.
It rains heavily here every day, I'm too lazy to go out to buy popcorn.
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Seller needs to travel to the data center, perform a vibe check on the remote hands, verify the fire extinguishers, and personally install the server.
After all, the server has to last there for 99 years.
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During those 99 years, data center's intermittent power outages were as heart-pounding as watching a buyer's ECG doing continuous push-ups.
Feeling very tired, let's call it a day.
As reported on NodeSeek, the 99-year "hearse" VPS has been delivered.
Location is Frankfurt, in Telehouse data center.
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Why not? I wish I bought the popcorn instead. > @sicksaint said:
I just received an email from C-Servers regarding the new server details. I haven't got time to log on to the server yet. A bit of learning curve as it is ipv6.
Will post the benchmark results shortly.
Actually was about to ask for a Refund, however Telehouse does compensate for Lisbon, so I am set.
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23m network is awesome, waiting for it to be restocked!
Feeling very tired, let's call it a day.
Btw, beside cservers did you or anyone know providers that still use 23M network?
1fire.de used to be with 23M but now SYNLINQ :'(
Already requested a refund
I couldn't find a useful provider for the 23m, but C-servers have been restocked, and the price seems to have changed.
Feeling very tired, let's call it a day.
Out of stockness...
But the thing is, basement operations are the tastiest!
I can run a basement server until the rest of my life.
Host it in a datacenter it starts to get difficult...
Hope it was worth the wait.
Several differences on these new servers as well:
Among other changes. Which were basically why it took so long as well.
We've also adjusted the "99 year plans" according to your feedback.
This is now a separate section called "MultiVPS One-Time Paid Servers", the writing was intentionally made clearer.
They are now called "DynamicVPS", have a lower one-off cost, and actually have multiple differences:
It gets much closer to the Servarica offer, in that sense.
Stock is internally limited to ~5% of the entire pool of available VPSes, for sustainability reasons.
We are now working to start to offer storage servers (and services) very soon.
Please do offer cheap storage, however make it good.
Storage from host_c is usable and stable however so far any storage from Hostbbr is kinda slow and slugish.
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To me, the new plans look much better than the old.
@cservers can u give me free extra ram?
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Would IPv6 even exist after 99 years?
Cloudflare takes over the world.
OS kernel includes cloudflared functionality, which routes traffic by domain name.
When you open a page in an app, the request is accepted by the local cloudflared, which uses AI models to decide where to forward the request.
The request leaves breadcrumbs along each node it traverses.
When the response is found, it follows these breadcrumbs in the reverse path back to the requester.
There are no addresses, just domain names and single-hop wireless links identified by ifindex.
Both RIPE and ARIN deadpooled, so is ICANN.
Each person gets assigned a free-for-life domain name at birth.
Additional domain names are charged at €7/year.
If you commit a crime, your domain names get deleted and you basically cease to exist.
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I don't know if 99 years is reliable or not, but
I bought a natvps for three months,
and after using it for a few days,
I couldn't connect to it,
they said there was a problem with their server node,
I used the web vnc to log in,
and ipv4 didn't work
Latest reports, they seem to have fixed the ipv4 issue
Let me know when you hve server available in Portugal
Apparently one of my services, has been terminated, created again.
I guess the data on that vps is gone? IPv6 is also different but why?
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Hello,
Check your e-mail. We had issues at the server that forced us to redeploy.
It's sorted out now, though.
Question for @cservers and im gonna be a dick about it because I think all "lifetime" service agreements (or 99 years if we wanna be pedantic) are the scum of the industry and have no value to them apart from to swindle some short term revenue for the books.
What's your plan in 7 years when the datacenter these hypervisor nodes are in goes under or is bought out by Google to turn into a new AI factory? By that point your operating expenses such as power (especially for this older hardware) and bandwidth have already eaten significantly into that initial profit margin. Now you have to pay $$$ to safely move all of the hardware to your new datacenter which the op-ex costs are unknown at this time?
Ok ok, you choose to renew the hardware every 5 years instead, this gives you more flexibility with updated hardware to save on power costs as well as in the case of a dc move you could just recycle the old nodes I suppose as a cheaper alternative to moving them. But then where is the cap-ex for these hardware renewals coming from?
The reason I get so aggro about this is because its a money-grab plain and simple. Any company (yes Zap this includes you) that offers "lifetime" or near lifetime services is destined for the dead-pool. There is no way you can commit to 99 years into the future (hell, the CEO/director of the company will probably be dead before then) for a service agreement for a $400 one-time payment. This is just false advertising plain and simple.
Honestly the fact lowendspirit doesn't ban these types of advertisements is outstanding to me? As end of the day it is straight up just a scam.
Well since you asked ....
It's not an offer thread. It's a thread by the LES Official Troll who started the thread to troll the provider. I expect he did this because he agrees with you that it was a totally unrealistic offer at 99 years and $399. If the OP was somebody shilling the offer I expect it would have been squashed PDQ.
That said, there is no rule against one time payment offers. Personally I try to use some judgement when evaluating "lifetime" offers, and based on this thread I expect that most LES members do as well.
We'll be quite simple here: you're (Scaleblade) assuming multiple things and you clearly didn't read the entire topic. Only that justifies references which are clearly not updated and have changed throughout.
But some quick bulletpoints:
Your answer assumes we are irresponsible. It's solely your opinion.
Lastly - we didn't and won't advertise these lifetime offers at this or any forum. You didn't see any post from ours with a link. They are well outside of the pricing interval, wouldn't be abiding by the rules. This was done by a different user which we are unrelated to.
One thing is for sure, it's not a nice way to do/enter a conversation - and another thing is for sure, we will keep doing our current one-time payment offer.
Best regards.
This response worries me of your fundamental misunderstanding of this industry and should be a cautionary tale to anyone that reads this. Let me break down your points for everyone else to see:
Telehouse, as a datacenter, going in? The company that exists since 1988 (and in Germany since 2012)? Not a chance.
Telehouse is 10% of the size of Equinix (the New York datacenter that I used as an example), land acquisition as well as legislation and hell even the cost of power in Germany is well above anything within Telehouse' demise. We use Telehouse ourselves in London, they're great and I 100% recommend it to anyone, but you want to convince me that if lets say in 10 years there is a massive shift in Germany's power pricing that isn't going to completely destroy your margin and ability to offer this service not at a loss?
Purchases by Google can happen to anyone, but don't happen to everyone.
It was an example of a large datacenter being bought out by another party and everyone inside being kicked out a year later. Not a what will happen, purely a possibility.
The one-time payment for these VPSes is very limited in stock (in comparison to the global VPS pool), as we've said earlier on this topic, for sustainability reasons. It's absolutely obvious it wouldn't be sustainable if we had like 40 or 50%. It's 5%.
That's good, basically as long as you're not a client within that 5% you're not totally false advertising then.
Obviously we won't disclose our policy for hardware renewal, but it's obviously predicted as well, as it has to be with, well, any provider.
Understandable and I respect it.
But what I am trying to caution everyone (and who knows maybe I might even be cautioning you at this point) that expecting anyone to take a one-time $399 payment to basically then provide you a service (with very variable monthly costs to operate) should not be a realistic expectation.
Think you can prove me wrong?
I would love this. Honestly if there is a provider out there that can support a business model of this one-time payment for 99 years that would be awesome.
What do I personally believe is the bare minimum to achieve this?
1. Your company be a non-profit with the sole purpose of maintaining internet history (think internet archive structure)
2. You need to have public hardware cycle information as well as operating costs. Breakdowns showing how that each one of those 399 dollars you get is used to maintain hardware, network, infrastructure, staffing, emergency recovery, etc.
3. Transparent funding model as well as public accountability on how you're storing that initial payment, how you're investing it outside of your company to ensure that it doesn't depreciate with time.
If your defense for this whole sham is "I dont advertise it on the forums that its banned on" then I think that tells us everything we need to know about your company and the services it offers.
Thank you @FrankZ for clarifying, that was my mistake, I didn't realize this wasn't an offer thread. @yoursunny you got me bro.
EDIT: I read some of your other replies as admittedly I saw the ludicrousness of this thread and jumped straight to a reply.
C-Servers basically plans to fill their nodes with 5% of these lifetime deals, from what I can tell this utilizes existing nodes that their other VPS lineup sells off of.
Good idea in theory - but along with everything else in my post this entirely relies on the question Can C-Servers sell their main VPS lineup for the next 99 years regardless of regulatory, site or industry change?.
If your answer is yes to this pls dm me the lottery numbers for next week and let me know how much that magic glass ball is gonna cost me cause that's the real deal in this thread, not the vps.
Someone wanna to be my bro, I see.
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