Debian bookworm released

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edited June 2023 in General

It seems that on June 10th the new Debian will be released
Source 👉 https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html

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  • edited May 2023

    Please write again when it actually happens!

    (That's still more than one month from now)

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • Rust, php8, python 3.11...
    CANNOT WAIT!

  • carlin0carlin0 Retired
    edited May 2023

    @dwight said:
    Rust, php8, python 3.11...
    CANNOT WAIT!

    "Quando paratus est" 👉 "When it's ready"

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  • carlin0carlin0 Retired

    I get notification that @superdelight and @Neoon have commented in this thread but I don’t see their posts

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  • @carlin0 said:
    I get notification that @superdelight and @Neoon have commented in this thread but I don’t see their posts

    Boooooooooo CENSORSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    @superdelight tried to virmach this thread.

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    @Neoon said:
    @superdelight tried to virmach this thread.

    He got banned.... What happened here?!?

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  • @somik said:

    @Neoon said:
    @superdelight tried to virmach this thread.


    He got banned.... What happened here?!?

  • edited May 2023

    Wait for another 6 months until it become stable / production ready


    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Wait for another 6 months until it become stable / production ready


    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Yo Debian is the definition of production!

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  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters
    edited May 2023

    @cybertech said:

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Wait for another 6 months until it become stable / production ready


    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Yo Debian is the definition of production!

    I prefer ubuntu. Didn't really understand the difference since ubuntu is based on debian...

    For me, ubuntu seems to work slightly better for regular use however for my websites hosted with Virtualmin control panel, debian seems to be more stable...

    FYI, ubuntu is already on PHP 8.1

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  • @somik said:
    I prefer ubuntu. Didn't really understand the difference since ubuntu is based on debian...

    For me, ubuntu seems to work slightly better for regular use however for my websites hosted with Virtualmin control panel, debian seems to be more stable...

    FYI, ubuntu is already on PHP 8.1

    Ubuntu does tend to get updates to packages more quickly than even debian unstable. When the branch changes to stable, the version tends to stay fixed, so by the time it's in stable every package is usually a version that's been in the wild for a year already.

  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters

    @ralf said:

    @somik said:
    I prefer ubuntu. Didn't really understand the difference since ubuntu is based on debian...

    For me, ubuntu seems to work slightly better for regular use however for my websites hosted with Virtualmin control panel, debian seems to be more stable...

    FYI, ubuntu is already on PHP 8.1

    Ubuntu does tend to get updates to packages more quickly than even debian unstable. When the branch changes to stable, the version tends to stay fixed, so by the time it's in stable every package is usually a version that's been in the wild for a year already.

    Explains why debian is seen as more stable. If the packages has been out for 1 year, all the bugs are known/fixed by the time debian uses it.

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  • @cybertech said: Yo Debian is the definition of production!

    Yo, RHEL is the most suitable.

    @somik said: I prefer ubuntu.

    I prefer Ubuntu LTS on my laptop cuz it saved me lots of time for fixing hardware driver kind of stuff

    PC though I choose Debian

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  • carlin0carlin0 Retired

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Debian doesn’t care about graphic bullshit, Debian is the structure

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  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters
    edited May 2023

    @Flying_Chinaman said:

    @cybertech said: Yo Debian is the definition of production!

    Yo, RHEL is the most suitable.

    Redhat is used by industries. I had chance to use Oracle Linux which is based on Redhat. Honestly it felt like using CentOS (also redhat based) but did not have the unstability with software updates that Centos 6 and 7 had. That is the reason I moved from centos to debian/ubuntu base.

    @Flying_Chinaman said:

    @somik said: I prefer ubuntu.

    I prefer Ubuntu LTS on my laptop cuz it saved me lots of time for fixing hardware driver kind of stuff

    PC though I choose Debian

    I was using Ubuntu Mate as my daily driver, but after i got the new laptop with built in Windows 11, I had been using it at least for the duration of warrenty. With a proper firewall, windows 11 isn't that bad.

    @carlin0 said:

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Debian Gnome supposedly still don't have tray bar by default

    Debian doesn’t care about graphic bullshit, Debian is the structure

    Agree, debian is mostly used as headless. For GUI, use Ubuntu or it's derivatives.

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  • carlin0carlin0 Retired

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  • Debian 12 should be available on 2023-06-10 according to this:
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html

    How long after will it take for @natvps_uk to offer a template of Debian 12?

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  • Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

  • @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

    Debian, Thx.

  • @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

    Some people are so new to this that they don't realise how uneventful apt-get dist-upgrade is...

  • @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

  • mwtmwt
    edited May 2023

    @ralf said:

    @havoc said:
    Slightly confused as to why everyone is so hyped for this one

    Some people are so new to this that they don't realise how uneventful apt-get dist-upgrade is...

    It can be pretty eventful if you have been holding off installing any backports. I upgraded recently and some of my things really are a lot snappier. PHP 7 -> 8 is probably the biggest that I've noticed.

    I noticed since new features in ejabberd as well which save me some workaround efforts I had in place before.

  • edited May 2023

    @yoursunny said:
    Debian 12 should be available on 2023-06-10 according to this:
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html

    How long after will it take for @natvps_uk to offer a template of Debian 12?

    Once it’s officially released I’ll add the template if it makes @yoursunny happy!

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  • cybertechcybertech OGBenchmark King YABS 24/7/365

    are we there yet?

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • @cybertech said:
    are we there yet?

    Almost, almost .... Puuuush!

  • Eh, either its the beer or something is broken.
    Wanted to already add the images to microlxc, however it refused to add them.

    I call the an exorcist, will solve this quick.

  • What?! Codename 'bookworm'?
    This has to be the stupidest distro name, ever.
    I mean seriously...
    I want the next release after this one to be called 'dickcheese'.

  • @Janevski said:
    What?! Codename 'bookworm'?
    This has to be the stupidest distro name, ever.
    I mean seriously...

    For better or for worse, Debian codenames are based on the names of characters from the Toy Story films

    I want the next release after this one to be called 'dickcheese'.

    No worries, won't happen!

    "A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)

  • edited June 2023

    Holy Tits

    GCC 12 with c++20 support!

    6.1 LTS kernel with new way of fucked up!

    Even 100+ bugs at launch with additional flavory and excitement!

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  • somiksomik OG Hostbusters

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Holy Tits

    GCC 12 with c++20 support!

    6.1 LTS kernel with new way of fucked up!

    Even 100+ bugs at launch with additional flavory and excitement!

    Old man style font size :lol:

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  • carlin0carlin0 Retired
    edited June 2023

    @Flying_Chinaman said:
    Holy Tits

    GCC 12 with c++20 support!

    6.1 LTS kernel with new way of fucked up!

    Even 100+ bugs at launch with additional flavory and excitement!

    No one forces you to use it...

    Bullseye will still have support for at least 2/3 years

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    There's no perfect software without bugs.

  • No way the kernel is v6.1.

  • @angstrom said:

    @Janevski said:
    What?! Codename 'bookworm'?
    This has to be the stupidest distro name, ever.
    I mean seriously...

    For better or for worse, Debian codenames are based on the names of characters from the Toy Story films

    I want the next release after this one to be called 'dickcheese'.

    No worries, won't happen!

    Trixie and Forky are next ...

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    They plan to release it on my 18th bday

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  • edited June 2023

    I am trying to figure out whether all the excitement is an indication that Linux is gaining traction all over, or whether I have been more focused on related projects, so I am seeing it more by coincidence and timing.

    Either way, I'll give it a try on a spare desktop and move a non-production VPS to it, both just for fun. Like most people here, I will leave the other Debians at versions 10 and 11 for a while longer.

  • @jaapmarcus said:

    @angstrom said:

    @Janevski said:
    What?! Codename 'bookworm'?
    This has to be the stupidest distro name, ever.
    I mean seriously...

    For better or for worse, Debian codenames are based on the names of characters from the Toy Story films

    I want the next release after this one to be called 'dickcheese'.

    No worries, won't happen!

    Trixie and Forky are next ...

    I wonder when they will run out of characters to name after.

    DM us for private tracker invite.

  • edited June 2023

    Anyone going to a launch party?

    https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBookworm

  • I am more curious what providers will add the Debian 12 ISO faster, or some Debian 12 template?

  • @root said:
    I am more curious what providers will add the Debian 12 ISO faster, or some Debian 12 template?

    MicroLXC was first

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  • I expected an official website update at debian.org some time today (10 June 2023). It would be helpful to see. As of this post the website still shows the late May 2023 announcement. "Today" may not yet be over, depending on where you live in the world, but I doubt that the people behind the Debian 12 release are thinking about "time zones" now.

  • carlin0carlin0 Retired

    @xleet said:
    I expected an official website update at debian.org some time today (10 June 2023). It would be helpful to see. As of this post the website still shows the late May 2023 announcement. "Today" may not yet be over, depending on where you live in the world, but I doubt that the people behind the Debian 12 release are thinking about "time zones" now.

    https://micronews.debian.org/ ← is official

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  • @carlin0 said:
    Released!

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  • @carlin0 said:

    https://micronews.debian.org/ ← is official

    Yeah, the official announcements were released the same day, after my post went up. It matched what I expected.

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