Route48.org to cease operations.

FrankZ

I saw this on Discord https://discord.gg/ipv6 ...

and then went to their web page and found this...

If this is true, I am sorry to see them go. It was a well run project.

Jab

carlin0

hopefully not
it's a sad day...

Mumbly

Ah, crap ...

I am sorry to see this, but grateful for this one year.

Fritz

The time has come.

This is pretty much predictable.

Bandwidth usage hundreds of TB is also common.

They are not ready for this cruel world. Bye @masterteddyAU (one of the well known Admins).

cold

so sad.... but we live in a world full of no-brainers, we also destroy out planet..so no wonder that they close the doors.. @Zappie thank you for trying

chris

That's sad! It'd be interesting to hear more about the abuse and what was done to prevent that's outside of the norm of services that market to LE*

Mason

Thanks for shooting your shot and doing something good for the community, @Cloudie @Zappie! Godspeed.

bliss

Not surprising, because I can't log in from early this year.
Thanks for the fantastic but transitory service anyway.

Seldom providers offer tunnel broker via wire-guard and zero-tier.
he.net is great, but requires dedicated IPv4.

ralf

Kind of scary to read that the average is hundreds of TB a month when I'm sure there were countless people like me who maybe used maybe hundreds of MB per day. Almost positive I wouldn't even have hit 1GB per month!

Shame the service had to end, but not surprised hearing this. Although I always assumed the services were rate limited, so now I'm a bit surprised.

Wonder_Woman

Thanks @Cloudie & @Zappie, it was really nice while it lasted!

Cloudie

Hello Everyone,

Firstly, thank you for the support the community, and our sponsors have provided to us over the last year.
an email will be sent out to all current users of the Route48 Platform tomorrow, and users within our discord (which will stay online, as it's not just used for R48 - https://discord.gg/ipv6 ) are working on plans to reincarnate Route48 in their own way.

I am awaiting to hear from these users on what locations and plans they are looking at doing, before sending off details. for those users that still require the services Route48 provided.

any subnet within 2a06:a005::/32 (our ASN Allocation subnet) will continue to be provided free of charge to users, and a subsequent email will be sent out to those users, requesting RIPE Details (ORG, MNT, and Abuse Contact) where we will allocate them directly to their RIPE Account for their usage.

After which, we will be contacting all of our sponsors to tell them about the cease of the project (officially) at least, after we have sorted moving out the users that are currently on the platform. for them to reclaim the resources they have provided to the community.

Once again, we do thank all of our Community, and Sponsors.

We hoped that this project would have ran for many years to come, but unfortunately, I have made the decision to pull the plug so to speak due to the damages that have been caused to other networks in a senseless act (note; this is not the first attack we have had, nor the first lot of abuse towards our staff/team, but this is the first one that has caused downtimes and network stability issues for our providers in which we owe so much of Route48's success to, and therefore would be unfair to continue in it's current format)

Best Regards,
Cloudie.

JoinTheDiscord! - https://discord.gg/ipv6

Smish

The issue wasnt really the bandwidth abuse, there was some but we where good about catching those, it was the abuse towards staff when dealing with people who had been banned for ToS violations, the duplicate accounts set up to get more tunnels (usually used by proxy services), and the Huge DDoS attack that hit all of our nodes this morning resulting in 1 DC fully offline and a providers network getting dropped (temporarily) by their upstream's.

As @Cloudie said some staff and community members are setting up tunnel projects (Mainly Transit for hobbynets/home users) because they are devastated by the loss so those in discord keep an eye on the channels to find out who and where.

Kind Regards
Adam G. (Smish)
(Formerly) Route 48 Management

yoursunny

It's a sad day because I'll have to re-enable IPv6 NAT on at least one server.
Maybe I'll switch to Route96?

dgc1980

while I did not use the service as I have native ipv6 at home, it is such a shame that a really good thing has to be shutdown because of arseholes abusing the system and staff

Encoders

that's too bad, i was relying on it to manage my salt minions from home

readypup

@Cloudie said:
....
any subnet within 2a06:a005::/32 (our ASN Allocation subnet) will continue to be provided free of charge to users, and a subsequent email will be sent out to those users, requesting RIPE Details (ORG, MNT, and Abuse Contact) where we will allocate them directly to their RIPE Account for their usage.
....

Are the emails still be planed out or have already been sent out?
Also will the assignments stay as 'ASSIGNED' or will that change?

cmeerw

@readypup said: Are the emails still be planed out or have already been sent out?

Subject: Route48.org Service Closure Notice
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 23:24:23 -0700

jolo22

Really sad Just signed up to R48 weeks ago. Thank you so much for providing great things to the community!

readypup

@cmeerw said:

@readypup said: Are the emails still be planed out or have already been sent out?

Subject: Route48.org Service Closure Notice
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 23:24:23 -0700

Odd, I didn't get one.... Maybe it's done in batches?

Cloudie

@readypup said:
Odd, I didn't get one.... Maybe it's done in batches?

10k odd emails.. can't send at once
Well, I can.. but i didn't want to just throw everyone in the to field.

Nyr

Sad to see this very cool project go. Thanks for trying anyway

webz

I Hope it will be back again very soon.
@Cloudie is so generous that despite he is closing the service now but he is still allotting the IP Prefix to everyone who was given through route48.

Thank you once again @Cloudie and their sponsor to make this project happen.

Fritz

Any chance to release the scripts for public?

@Cloudie

Just asking.

yoursunny

@webz said:
@Cloudie is so generous that despite he is closing the service now but he is still allotting the IP Prefix to everyone who was given through route48.

He should charge $7 one time per prefix to cover the manual work.
Free for ONIX members.

cold

@yoursunny said:

@webz said:
@Cloudie is so generous that despite he is closing the service now but he is still allotting the IP Prefix to everyone who was given through route48.

He should charge $7 one time per prefix to cover the manual work.
Free for ONIX members.

what do u mean by "the manual job"? handjobs and so on.. ?

webz

@yoursunny said:

@webz said:
@Cloudie is so generous that despite he is closing the service now but he is still allotting the IP Prefix to everyone who was given through route48.

He should charge $7 one time per prefix to cover the manual work.
Free for ONIX members.

Agreed on this one-time payment and that to be $7 will be good enough.

Cloudie

@webz said:
Agreed on this one-time payment and that to be $7 will be good enough.

haha definitely no payment required. the entire admin team of R48 is quite sad that it had to come to this point, and it is the least we could do by providing the resources promised to those that are utilizing them while still dismantling the platform.

just, it will take a few days there are around 200 requests sitting in the inbox at the moment for them last i looked, and I will be doing all of it manually (myself), in amoungst all my other duties etc. where some know that I get super duper busy at times etc.

but, i must remind those that have requested and are reading in here... PLEASE make sure that you have mnt-ref: ROUTE48-MNT on your ORG. otherwise it will reject and will annoy me :-p

but once again, thank you all for the support!

ascicode

Everything free getting abused, nothing new.

Neoon

@ascicode said:
Everything free getting abused, nothing new.

Sad, maybe you can continue to run this project on a smaller scale for LET/LES users?

yoursunny

@Neoon said:
Sad, maybe you can continue to run this project on a smaller scale for LET/LES users?

MicroBGP / NanoBGP when?

Neoon

@yoursunny said:

@Neoon said:
Sad, maybe you can continue to run this project on a smaller scale for LET/LES users?

MicroBGP / NanoBGP when?

As said before, I am not getting an ASN, despite this has been offered for free to me.
I prob, would need an ASN anyway, if I wanted to announce other people's IP's, without bothering the upstream every time.

And Yes, some Sponsors already offered that.
Still, likely not going to happen.

skorupion

@yoursunny said:

@Neoon said:
Sad, maybe you can continue to run this project on a smaller scale for LET/LES users?

MicroBGP / NanoBGP when?

Microv6 is going to be VPN
Nanov6 is going to be BGP IPv6

VPS_Hunter

I can see the current state of your mind, but its not too late to change your mind. Before quitting, I suggest putting up your prices up. The jokes are coming to you because they can afford to, once you are out of their reach, they will go somewhere else and your troubles will mostly go away. I promise you, you are more important to your good customers than you realise and I'm sure most of them would be willing to pay more to keep using your services. At least try this before you quit- to find out how much you are really worth and where you could go if you pushed yourself. Its like a girl friend, you think you cannot get better, but when you break up you find out you can get better.

Put up your prices and see what happens, you have nothing to lose.....

In 1 month, your online enemies will have forgotten you and you will be free to grow.

dosai

How about 4.25 AUD per month