It was the potato farmer who brought up Firefox mobile. Some people wanna see Web 3 on their Motorola flip I guess. Who on earth uses FF Mobile. See, gross.
I do. I use Firefox on mobile. I have 3 versions: normal, Nightly, and Focus.
You are and always will be a sick sick man
It's just a browser.
Yeape sure is sorry tried to make a joke and it didn't land
I forgot about Tor. I have that too, which is a modified Firefox basically.
Don't worry. I get you. I am sick, because there is no such thing as normal. Everybody is unique in the end.
@Ympker said:
People chose (centralized) order over (decentralised) chaos then? :P
People do not chose at all, they just type in what they are looking for in Google and click on the first link.
As techies, we might find stuff like web3 fascinating and interesting, but keep in mind that 99% of everybody does not give a shit. Centralized or decentralized doesn't mean anything to them as long as they get the website they need when they need it.
Decentralized and freedom of speech and whatever hype they use to try to sell their idea sounds very good, until you realize that it is not really a problem for anybody. Honestly, I have never meet a person that tried to use freedom of speech or decentralization as an argument that have had anything of importance to say that was not already able to say it. Everyone I've ever meet that cries about freedom of speech and decentralization have been some kind of fanatic that think freedom of speech means that they can say whatever they want without having to face the consequences.
Basically, web3 tries to solve a problem that does not exist. People will not take any extra step to use something unless it solves a problem or makes life easier for them, and web3 simply does not.
@Ympker said:
People chose (centralized) order over (decentralised) chaos then? :P
People do not chose at all, they just type in what they are looking for in Google and click on the first link.
As techies, we might find stuff like web3 fascinating and interesting, but keep in mind that 99% of everybody does not give a shit. Centralized or decentralized doesn't mean anything to them as long as they get the website they need when they need it.
Decentralized and freedom of speech and whatever hype they use to try to sell their idea sounds very good, until you realize that it is not really a problem for anybody. Honestly, I have never meet a person that tried to use freedom of speech or decentralization as an argument that have had anything of importance to say that was not already able to say it. Everyone I've ever meet that cries about freedom of speech and decentralization have been some kind of fanatic that think freedom of speech means that they can say whatever they want without having to face the consequences.
Basically, web3 tries to solve a problem that does not exist. People will not take any extra step to use something unless it solves a problem or makes life easier for them, and web3 simply does not.
Fair point. I tend to get carried away when hearing about some new tech trend but, of course, we techy people are a minority.
@Ympker said:
People chose (centralized) order over (decentralised) chaos then? :P
People do not chose at all, they just type in what they are looking for in Google and click on the first link.
As techies, we might find stuff like web3 fascinating and interesting, but keep in mind that 99% of everybody does not give a shit. Centralized or decentralized doesn't mean anything to them as long as they get the website they need when they need it.
Decentralized and freedom of speech and whatever hype they use to try to sell their idea sounds very good, until you realize that it is not really a problem for anybody. Honestly, I have never meet a person that tried to use freedom of speech or decentralization as an argument that have had anything of importance to say that was not already able to say it. Everyone I've ever meet that cries about freedom of speech and decentralization have been some kind of fanatic that think freedom of speech means that they can say whatever they want without having to face the consequences.
Basically, web3 tries to solve a problem that does not exist. People will not take any extra step to use something unless it solves a problem or makes life easier for them, and web3 simply does not.
Fair point. I tend to get carried away when hearing about some new tech trend but, of course, we techy people are a minority.
I'd argue that it isn't new.
It's been out for over 10 years now. That's a lot of time in the IT world. When "Internet 1.0" and "2.0" came out, they both had some good use-cases immediately. Giving noticeable benefits to the users. But this fad - they are working hard on trying to figure out what to use it for. The main difference between the "Web 3.0" and "BikeGremlin's pigeons" is that the pigeons are marketed as a sarcastic (and highly questionable sense of) humour, not as a "next best thing!"
@Ympker said:
People chose (centralized) order over (decentralised) chaos then? :P
People do not chose at all, they just type in what they are looking for in Google and click on the first link.
As techies, we might find stuff like web3 fascinating and interesting, but keep in mind that 99% of everybody does not give a shit. Centralized or decentralized doesn't mean anything to them as long as they get the website they need when they need it.
Decentralized and freedom of speech and whatever hype they use to try to sell their idea sounds very good, until you realize that it is not really a problem for anybody. Honestly, I have never meet a person that tried to use freedom of speech or decentralization as an argument that have had anything of importance to say that was not already able to say it. Everyone I've ever meet that cries about freedom of speech and decentralization have been some kind of fanatic that think freedom of speech means that they can say whatever they want without having to face the consequences.
Basically, web3 tries to solve a problem that does not exist. People will not take any extra step to use something unless it solves a problem or makes life easier for them, and web3 simply does not.
Fair point. I tend to get carried away when hearing about some new tech trend but, of course, we techy people are a minority.
I'd argue that it isn't new.
It's been out for over 10 years now. That's a lot of time in the IT world. When "Internet 1.0" and "2.0" came out, they both had some good use-cases immediately. Giving noticeable benefits to the users. But this fad - they are working hard on trying to figure out what to use it for. The main difference between the "Web 3.0" and "BikeGremlin's pigeons" is that the pigeons are marketed as a sarcastic (and highly questionable sense of) humour, not as a "next best thing!"
@bikegremlin said:
[...] But this fad - they are working hard on trying to figure out what to use it for.
Seen from an efficiency perspective web3 does not offer something new, because it's the same browsers with same HTTP protocols. However, regarding web3:
at the privacy level it offers more anonymity for domain owners due to transactions through cryptocurrencies;
at technical level it offers decentralisation which slowly helps pulling Internet out of private control;
at financial level it brings the possibility to register TLDs, without ICANN regulating the price, while instead having the market establish itself through open auctions.
at political level there is the benefit of free speech. Sure, the downside is all idiots can spread fake news about anything, but communication for journalism might also become bolder against corruption. I don't know, this might be a different topic though.
With all this in mind, seen strictly from an efficiency point of view at consumer level, web3 does not bring much to the table. But there are other benefits, which is why only few people who understand it's necessity actually want it (a minority).
Web3 has failed. The best attempt was Handshake, and even that with all it's hype, investors and donations, it has still failed. People don't like investing in projects which have failed in the past, so in my opinion other future projects might fail too, due to lack of investors as they correlate the reference to what happened in the past.
Religions want to control thinking mechanics. Corporations want to control consumers. Governments want to control populations. Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers wants to control the protocols and how internet works. We are just too small to oppose this "group of leaders" and help the world out of their greed.
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I forgot about Tor. I have that too, which is a modified Firefox basically.
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You had better install Fennec too. Why go half assed? Go all the way.
Is Opera Mobile still intercepting the whole webpage?
Web3 is just a marketing term.
We can invent Hypernet 5 and define whatever mode of operation in it.
People do not chose at all, they just type in what they are looking for in Google and click on the first link.
As techies, we might find stuff like web3 fascinating and interesting, but keep in mind that 99% of everybody does not give a shit. Centralized or decentralized doesn't mean anything to them as long as they get the website they need when they need it.
Decentralized and freedom of speech and whatever hype they use to try to sell their idea sounds very good, until you realize that it is not really a problem for anybody. Honestly, I have never meet a person that tried to use freedom of speech or decentralization as an argument that have had anything of importance to say that was not already able to say it. Everyone I've ever meet that cries about freedom of speech and decentralization have been some kind of fanatic that think freedom of speech means that they can say whatever they want without having to face the consequences.
Basically, web3 tries to solve a problem that does not exist. People will not take any extra step to use something unless it solves a problem or makes life easier for them, and web3 simply does not.
Fair point. I tend to get carried away when hearing about some new tech trend but, of course, we techy people are a minority.
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I'd argue that it isn't new.
It's been out for over 10 years now. That's a lot of time in the IT world. When "Internet 1.0" and "2.0" came out, they both had some good use-cases immediately. Giving noticeable benefits to the users. But this fad - they are working hard on trying to figure out what to use it for. The main difference between the "Web 3.0" and "BikeGremlin's pigeons" is that the pigeons are marketed as a sarcastic (and highly questionable sense of) humour, not as a "next best thing!"
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YetiProtocol3 engaged?
The Yeti has left the building.
Now, where can I get some of those pigeons?
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Seen from an efficiency perspective web3 does not offer something new, because it's the same browsers with same HTTP protocols. However, regarding web3:
With all this in mind, seen strictly from an efficiency point of view at consumer level, web3 does not bring much to the table. But there are other benefits, which is why only few people who understand it's necessity actually want it (a minority).
Web3 has failed. The best attempt was Handshake, and even that with all it's hype, investors and donations, it has still failed. People don't like investing in projects which have failed in the past, so in my opinion other future projects might fail too, due to lack of investors as they correlate the reference to what happened in the past.
Religions want to control thinking mechanics. Corporations want to control consumers. Governments want to control populations. Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers wants to control the protocols and how internet works. We are just too small to oppose this "group of leaders" and help the world out of their greed.
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Yes, why not?
Well he did say I could make my own protocol so I figured why not as well
The Yeti has left the building.
I did not meant to say that in a rude way, i agree with YetiProtocol3. Why not?
God that sounded snippy on my end now that I read it. I apologize for that I didn't mean it to sound that way.
The Yeti has left the building.