@Ympker said: @flips Are you still happy with LiveCanvas mate? Considering grabbing it while the discount lasts
Yes, I find it useful. Not sure I'd pay the full price, but it's worth the discounted price!
There also stuff to discover, that I haven't dug into, yet. For me the possibility to edit css and html at the various levels are very useful...
Considering using it as a page builder for some static sites. (Export the stuff.)
Elementor to increase pricing and introduce new price points.
As per mail received from them
What’s staying the same?
All current users with an active Pro subscription keep the same terms for that subscription.
Personal and Plus plans are not changing in terms of price and service. They will be renamed Essential and Advanced respectively.
What’s changing?
Expert plans, purchased after March 9th for $199 / year, will now support up to 25 sites.
We want to give everyone a chance to get in on the current Expert plan ($199 / year for 1,000 sites) before it is discontinued - so users who wish to purchase this plan have the opportunity to do so before March 9th - purchase here.
What’s new?
Two new plans designed for bigger teams and users with a larger client base - Studio ($499 / year for 100 sites), and Agency ($999 / year for 1000 sites)
New plans will have access to VIP support (24/7 chat and team access), tailor-made, relevant content and the ability to open a profile on our Experts network.
We are continuing to make significant improvements to our Premium support (relevant to Essential, Advanced, and Expert plans) response and resolution time. This year we aim to double our support team again, as we did in 2020.
These changes will help us to continue to offer you the best product whatever the size of your business, while ensuring that the level of service matches.
Learn more about our new subscription structure, benefits and future plans.
@Ympker came up with the idea, I just tested it, made a more strictly structured procedure (so I can do it anytime, with half the brain on the cat-pics topic), and took some screen-shots.
@Ympker came up with the idea, I just tested it, made a more strictly structured procedure (so I can do it anytime, with half the brain on the cat-pics topic), and took some screen-shots.
Nice write-up mate Yeah, I have cloned/migrated many sites flawlessly using the free version. At some point I was like "heck, why not give them something back for the great plugin they offer and speed up the workflow". Ended up purchasing the Unlimited Extension for a one-time fee. Can't complain. For backups I still use Updraft Plus (free) since I like it a bit more in that regard.
I've moved my cycling website to a UK server. Any chance of US/Canada, and Australia based guys to click on a few pages and let me know if it has any problems loading?
Don't really care about split-seconds, as long as it loads "normally," not draggingly slow.
@bikegremlin said:
I've moved my cycling website to a UK server. Any chance of US/Canada, and Australia based guys to click on a few pages and let me know if it has any problems loading?
Don't really care about split-seconds, as long as it loads "normally," not draggingly slow.
I mean, Crunchyroll tells me I am in the US, Netflix thinks I am in the UK and Canada is only a click away with the VPN of choice :P Jk, can only offer clicks from Spain. 5$/click for seo traffic
@bikegremlin said:
I've moved my cycling website to a UK server. Any chance of US/Canada, and Australia based guys to click on a few pages and let me know if it has any problems loading?
Don't really care about split-seconds, as long as it loads "normally," not draggingly slow.
I mean, Crunchyroll tells me I am in the US, Netflix thinks I am in the UK and Canada is only a click away with the VPN of choice :P Jk, can only offer clicks from Spain. 5$/click for seo traffic
My (subjective) impression:
While it was on a US server, my connection to it was noticeably slower, compared to the UK server based website version in my native (identical in terms of everything, but language).
Now that it's been moved, when I use a "US VPN connection," and compare it to a "UK VPN connection," or no VPN at all, I don't see nearly as much difference.
So I suppose feedback from "real people" would be helpful.
Again - not chasing 0.5 s page load times, as long as it seems to "load normally," I'm happy.
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
That annoying guy who just "steps" into the conversation:
GeneratePress is like most other themes available on wp.org:
You get the basic functionality for free, but you need to pay for having all the available options using just mouse-clicks.
Fortunately, it is very well documented, support is really excellent, so you can do most stuff with your custom code using a child theme.
For web-shops, I prefer Ocean WP, for all else - GeneratePress.
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
That annoying guy who just "steps" into the conversation:
GeneratePress is like most other themes available on wp.org:
You get the basic functionality for free, but you need to pay for having all the available options using just mouse-clicks.
Fortunately, it is very well documented, support is really excellent, so you can do most stuff with your custom code using a child theme.
For web-shops, I prefer Ocean WP, for all else - GeneratePress.
You may continue to annoy. Adds to others' learning!
(I do not have answer to the query you posted reg google analytics. Can only think of older version )
GeneratePress free version is good enough, used with generateblocks it is adequate for most sites. During BF I picked up the paid version (not of generatebocks though) - customization options are slightly better. But nothing that can be achieved by child themes.
For 50 US Dollars, no cap on number of sites where the theme can be used. One of the better deals out there.
I get pagespeed of 92 mobile, without much optimization, Once I tweak images, might get 95 plus. Cannot complain on that count.
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
That annoying guy who just "steps" into the conversation:
GeneratePress is like most other themes available on wp.org:
You get the basic functionality for free, but you need to pay for having all the available options using just mouse-clicks.
Fortunately, it is very well documented, support is really excellent, so you can do most stuff with your custom code using a child theme.
For web-shops, I prefer Ocean WP, for all else - GeneratePress.
You may continue to annoy. Adds to others' learning!
(I do not have answer to the query you posted reg google analytics. Can only think of older version )
GeneratePress free version is good enough, used with generateblocks it is adequate for most sites. During BF I picked up the paid version (not of generatebocks though) - customization options are slightly better. But nothing that can be achieved by child themes.
For 50 US Dollars, no cap on number of sites where the theme can be used. One of the better deals out there.
I get pagespeed of 92 mobile, without much optimization, Once I tweak images, might get 95 plus. Cannot complain on that count.
I think mine was a BF deal. 49 US Dollars a year/ 1,000 sites or so. Price for LT was 5 or 6 x the annual, it was around 230 or so dollars.
Hazy memory. I only have bills to pay and receipts to file :-)
@vyas said:
I think mine was a BF deal. 49 US Dollars a year/ 1,000 sites or so. Price for LT was 5 or 6 x the annual, it was around 230 or so dollars.
Hazy memory. I only have bills to pay and receipts to file :-)
Haha true Would have opted for lifetime to setup and forget haha
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
That annoying guy who just "steps" into the conversation:
GeneratePress is like most other themes available on wp.org:
You get the basic functionality for free, but you need to pay for having all the available options using just mouse-clicks.
Fortunately, it is very well documented, support is really excellent, so you can do most stuff with your custom code using a child theme.
For web-shops, I prefer Ocean WP, for all else - GeneratePress.
You may continue to annoy. Adds to others' learning!
(I do not have answer to the query you posted reg google analytics. Can only think of older version )
GeneratePress free version is good enough, used with generateblocks it is adequate for most sites. During BF I picked up the paid version (not of generatebocks though) - customization options are slightly better. But nothing that can be achieved by child themes.
For 50 US Dollars, no cap on number of sites where the theme can be used. One of the better deals out there.
I get pagespeed of 92 mobile, without much optimization, Once I tweak images, might get 95 plus. Cannot complain on that count.
I realize there was a BF discount but maybe you were referring to another paid version alltogether?
Sounds good though! Might have a spin
@bikegremlin sorry, no idea about that either, mate. Maybe Google analytics and gdpr caused them to not collect any more data? Anyway, no idea, really
As for the GP:
They used to sell for about 50$, with discount for renewal (ending up at 30$).
I thought about it, and thought: "Oh, well - it's not too bad, if I ever need it, I'll pay."
Never needed anything that couldn't be solved with just a little bit of custom code (so far at least).
Now comes the tin-foil hat!
GP was a small team (or a one-man show) that still managed to make a well written, well optimized theme, with superb support (even for us free users).
Now, WP is obviously moving in the direction of pushing out themes and page builders - to a great extent.
So I guess it makes sense to sell a few lifetimes, and maybe raise the price a bit, to make a lifetime purchase look more "reasonable."
If I used any of the pro options, I'd still buy it - probably going with lifetime (to not worry about whether my bank had cleared the payment, or not... read all about serbian banks haha ).
As for the analytics: that's probably Murphy's law. I hadn't checked it regularly, and when I was helping a friend with their website, explaining, and configuring all the stuff... that's when I realized it's not really working.
Trying with the new, "V4" analytics codes now, to see if those will work. I had delayed playing with that - but suppose now is the time to get into it, see what's new and how it's done.
Looks identical (apart from the exact tracking code number) to the non WP (plain HTML) website that works fine in Analytics.
And - it shows visitors in "live traffic". That's how I first check if it's configured: by opening pages (with no ad-blocker) and checking if my views are shown in the live traffic info.
Since only WP websites are affected, it could be a WP/plugin/theme problem.
Except - on other domains I have other websites that use the same plugins, but have no problems.
Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
That annoying guy who just "steps" into the conversation:
GeneratePress is like most other themes available on wp.org:
You get the basic functionality for free, but you need to pay for having all the available options using just mouse-clicks.
Fortunately, it is very well documented, support is really excellent, so you can do most stuff with your custom code using a child theme.
For web-shops, I prefer Ocean WP, for all else - GeneratePress.
You may continue to annoy. Adds to others' learning!
(I do not have answer to the query you posted reg google analytics. Can only think of older version )
GeneratePress free version is good enough, used with generateblocks it is adequate for most sites. During BF I picked up the paid version (not of generatebocks though) - customization options are slightly better. But nothing that can be achieved by child themes.
For 50 US Dollars, no cap on number of sites where the theme can be used. One of the better deals out there.
I get pagespeed of 92 mobile, without much optimization, Once I tweak images, might get 95 plus. Cannot complain on that count.
I realize there was a BF discount but maybe you were referring to another paid version alltogether?
Sounds good though! Might have a spin
@bikegremlin sorry, no idea about that either, mate. Maybe Google analytics and gdpr caused them to not collect any more data? Anyway, no idea, really
As for the GP:
They used to sell for about 50$, with discount for renewal (ending up at 30$).
I thought about it, and thought: "Oh, well - it's not too bad, if I ever need it, I'll pay."
Never needed anything that couldn't be solved with just a little bit of custom code (so far at least).
Now comes the tin-foil hat!
GP was a small team (or a one-man show) that still managed to make a well written, well optimized theme, with superb support (even for us free users).
Now, WP is obviously moving in the direction of pushing out themes and page builders - to a great extent.
So I guess it makes sense to sell a few lifetimes, and maybe raise the price a bit, to make a lifetime purchase look more "reasonable."
If I used any of the pro options, I'd still buy it - probably going with lifetime (to not worry about whether my bank had cleared the payment, or not... read all about serbian banks haha ).
As for the analytics: that's probably Murphy's law. I hadn't checked it regularly, and when I was helping a friend with their website, explaining, and configuring all the stuff... that's when I realized it's not really working.
Trying with the new, "V4" analytics codes now, to see if those will work. I had delayed playing with that - but suppose now is the time to get into it, see what's new and how it's done.
Thanks for the thorough reply, mate Sounds indeed like a good pick!
Gonna be interesting to see how wp changes as pagebuilders/themes are to some degree pushed out.
Will look into it.
Suspecting LiteSpeed cache for now.
Since a website not using LiteSpeed (plain HTML one) is looking normally. While it too is using the same Cloudflare configuration.
Just dug this out.
Still not sure if it makes sense, but will look into it.
Edit:
Seems to have fixed it - for now at least.
Disabled the local caching for the GA scripts in LiteSpeed options.
Disabled the local caching for the GA scripts in LiteSpeed options.
Good to hear you fixed it. Seems my first guess was right then, the combining/minifying broke it for cloudflare.
Is that true Minify/combine css and js will cause problems with Cloudflare?
Should I disable that?
I can't say for sure what the problem is. I would think it's because google analytics doesn't get loaded from google which makes cloudflare cache/proxy it which breaks google analytics. But it's also possible litespeed managed to break it somehow.
Disabled the local caching for the GA scripts in LiteSpeed options.
Good to hear you fixed it. Seems my first guess was right then, the combining/minifying broke it for cloudflare.
Is that true Minify/combine css and js will cause problems with Cloudflare?
Should I disable that?
I can't say for sure what the problem is. I would think it's because google analytics doesn't get loaded from google which makes cloudflare cache/proxy it which breaks google analytics. But it's also possible litespeed managed to break it somehow.
I'm using WP Rocket and enable Minfiy and combine for Javascript and css (but I don't enable HTTP/2 option).
Using Cloudflare gives additional load time, but if I use Cloudflare for images only, no problem happened.
Disabled the local caching for the GA scripts in LiteSpeed options.
Good to hear you fixed it. Seems my first guess was right then, the combining/minifying broke it for cloudflare.
Is that true Minify/combine css and js will cause problems with Cloudflare?
Should I disable that?
I can't say for sure what the problem is. I would think it's because google analytics doesn't get loaded from google which makes cloudflare cache/proxy it which breaks google analytics. But it's also possible litespeed managed to break it somehow.
I'm using WP Rocket and enable Minfiy and combine for Javascript and css (but I don't enable HTTP/2 option).
Using Cloudflare gives additional load time, but if I use Cloudflare for images only, no problem happened.
Heads up! If your Google Analytics script is installed using Google Tag Manager, this add-on will not work. This Add-on currently only works with the tracking code taken from a Google Analytics account.
Heads up! If you're using Google Analytics as the verification method for your Google Search Console account, GSC will not detect the local script. So you should use a different verification method.
So here's my guess, you didn't use gtag and you aren't using google analytics as the verification method (whatever that means), so your google analytics works. @bikegremlin used gtag and that didn't work. Imo, cloudflare on average gives better loading times globally, and it's free and doesn't take any effort from your end. You can obviously find a faster solution but it's probably not worth the effort.
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
@Fritz said:
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
I'd like to believe 1$/year per site on the 999 sites plan is still "fair" but I can also understand people complaining. A while back I considered creating some sites with Elementor but kinda happy I stuck with Divi and its' good old lifetime license for unlimited sites. Setup & forget.
Nothing like being set to fix a broken site that someone set up using Elementor some years ago. I actually never used Elementor much. I tend to migrate my clients away from it, over to something like Divi's lifetime ...
(Have some other sites using ThemeForest themes that suddenly break something. They get updates, but when updates break something, you have to pay for more support.)
@flips said:
Nothing like being set to fix a broken site that someone set up using Elementor some years ago. I actually never used Elementor much. I tend to migrate my clients away from it, over to something like Divi's lifetime ...
(Have some other sites using ThemeForest themes that suddenly break something. They get updates, but when updates break something, you have to pay for more support.)
I hear you. For clients I only use Divi because of lifetime and I am confident they'll be around for a while. Not much support from Divi's side but after 1-2 patches most stuff gets fixed and I put my clients on daily backup hosting plans for a reason
Btw. just pulled the trigger on LiveCanvas Lifetime. 99$ was too good an offer to pass up and I can see myself using it for personal projects and/or simple client sites
OxygenBuilder als looks lightweigth and comes at 89$ lifetime but not sure if it is really that good. Any experiences?
Qubely seems to be in stagnant development atm (unfortunately) and Appsumo sales questions haven't been answered since a while. Fingers crossed but for what it is, it performs great so far and an upadte was only pushed recently. Maybe they just do away with Appsumo?
I use Brizy (rather plan to use it now) and have elementor essential addons. Was considering mobirose after the blog series on page builders. Had/have Visualmodo plans that use WP Bakery.
At the end of the day, choose what works best for you and the project. I have started using as barebones a theme/ set of features as I can- less maintenance, more focus on content
@Fritz said:
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
@vyas said:
I use Brizy (rather plan to use it now) and have elementor essential addons. Was considering mobirose after the blog series on page builders. Had/have Visualmodo plans that use WP Bakery.
At the end of the day, choose what works best for you and the project. I have started using as barebones a theme/ set of features as I can- less maintenance, more focus on content
I agree with you. Mobirise has served me well btw > @Fritz said:
@Fritz said:
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
Cloudflare does not cache HTML, CSS and JS, after each request, it will fetch from the origin first.
This will cause an extra load time.
I guess the solution is to make a page rules in Cloudflare to cache everything not only images.
Then another problem will come, cached pages that consist of dynamic information (like comment page, or even GA, will have invalid information).
You are on the righ track, I think. However, I have also often read that full-site cache with CF is discouraged from as it slows down site as opposed to selective. FWIW not using any CDN in my site rn.
@vyas said:
I use Brizy (rather plan to use it now) and have elementor essential addons. Was considering mobirose after the blog series on page builders. Had/have Visualmodo plans that use WP Bakery.
At the end of the day, choose what works best for you and the project. I have started using as barebones a theme/ set of features as I can- less maintenance, more focus on content
I agree with you. Mobirise has served me well btw > @Fritz said:
@Fritz said:
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
Cloudflare does not cache HTML, CSS and JS, after each request, it will fetch from the origin first.
This will cause an extra load time.
I guess the solution is to make a page rules in Cloudflare to cache everything not only images.
Then another problem will come, cached pages that consist of dynamic information (like comment page, or even GA, will have invalid information).
You are on the righ track, I think. However, I have also often read that full-site cache with CF is discouraged from as it slows down site as opposed to selective. FWIW not using any CDN in my site rn.
Long post. Probably pointless - but some info might be helpful, or interesting.
Example 1 This one is served through CF - so practically all the pages are cached there. GTmetrix report, for noting any optimization errors (well, Images should be better optimized, but that's a long story):
Page 3 - NO CACHING (all caches bypassed, both on the hosting server, and CF)
Page 4 - UNOPTIMIZED images - no matter how they are cached, or where they are served from, the most important thing, making the size and compression fit what is shown on the screen is missing here! And that makes the biggest difference.
Example 2
This is my website, where **CF caches images and some static stuff, but not all ** ('cause it takes money, or a particular free plugin to enable that, without visitors seeing cached version of admin pages and vice-versa).
Pointless drivel:
- All of these are hosted on the same server, and tested from the same location, that is near the server.
A good test and comparison when it comes to Cloudflare, would be to compare by testing from a distant location - and judging whether CF helps websites who use it, compared to those who don't.
In my experience, on the whole, CF still does more good than harm (at least for my uses).
Finally, more on topic:
Hosting images on a separate (sub)domain adds a bit more complication, hassle - in terms of adding, removing and updating content.
However, in terms of performance, I think it's a good idea.
Don't know if WP can be configured to just link to your chosen image-server, not having to be re-directed with .htaccess rules or similar.
The bottom line (for me at least): compared to other optimization related stuff, off-loading images never seamed like a very important thing.
Then again - not selling anything, so cutting the page load time from 2.5 to 1.9 seconds doesn't really have any "conversion" to affect.
@vyas said:
I use Brizy (rather plan to use it now) and have elementor essential addons. Was considering mobirose after the blog series on page builders. Had/have Visualmodo plans that use WP Bakery.
At the end of the day, choose what works best for you and the project. I have started using as barebones a theme/ set of features as I can- less maintenance, more focus on content
I agree with you. Mobirise has served me well btw > @Fritz said:
@Fritz said:
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
Cloudflare does not cache HTML, CSS and JS, after each request, it will fetch from the origin first.
This will cause an extra load time.
I guess the solution is to make a page rules in Cloudflare to cache everything not only images.
Then another problem will come, cached pages that consist of dynamic information (like comment page, or even GA, will have invalid information).
You are on the righ track, I think. However, I have also often read that full-site cache with CF is discouraged from as it slows down site as opposed to selective. FWIW not using any CDN in my site rn.
Long post. Probably pointless - but some info might be helpful, or interesting.
Example 1 This one is served through CF - so practically all the pages are cached there. GTmetrix report, for noting any optimization errors (well, Images should be better optimized, but that's a long story):
Page 3 - NO CACHING (all caches bypassed, both on the hosting server, and CF)
Page 4 - UNOPTIMIZED images - no matter how they are cached, or where they are served from, the most important thing, making the size and compression fit what is shown on the screen is missing here! And that makes the biggest difference.
Example 2
This is my website, where **CF caches images and some static stuff, but not all ** ('cause it takes money, or a particular free plugin to enable that, without visitors seeing cached version of admin pages and vice-versa).
Pointless drivel:
- All of these are hosted on the same server, and tested from the same location, that is near the server.
A good test and comparison when it comes to Cloudflare, would be to compare by testing from a distant location - and judging whether CF helps websites who use it, compared to those who don't.
In my experience, on the whole, CF still does more good than harm (at least for my uses).
Finally, more on topic:
Hosting images on a separate (sub)domain adds a bit more complication, hassle - in terms of adding, removing and updating content.
However, in terms of performance, I think it's a good idea.
Don't know if WP can be configured to just link to your chosen image-server, not having to be re-directed with .htaccess rules or similar.
The bottom line (for me at least): compared to other optimization related stuff, off-loading images never seamed like a very important thing.
Then again - not selling anything, so cutting the page load time from 2.5 to 1.9 seconds doesn't really have any "conversion" to affect.
Wow, thanks for the thorough and interesting reply, mate! Will read more thoroughly after I finish work
Use a CDN for images instead of subdomain. In case you have to re-use the images elsewhere, so also for speed, etc- with BunnyCDN or Gumlet- you are paying 1 US Dollar a month for peace of mind.
ALso keeps the DB size smaller for WP backups in case you have to migrate.
@vyas said:
Use a CDN for images instead of subdomain. In case you have to re-use the images elsewhere, so also for speed, etc- with BunnyCND or GUmlet- you are paying 1 US Dollar a month for peace of mind.
ALso keeps the DB size smaller for WP backups in case you have to migrate.
Using a CDN for images makes the DB smaller? Not just the files (uploads) directory?
5 $ Cloudflare package lets you use their network of edge (CDN) servers for serving both all the images, and all the cached pages.
Or you could use a free plugin to avoid paying the 5$ fee. Called: WP Cloudflare Super Page Cache
Still, I don't think this negates the performance benefits of serving images from a different (sub)domain.
Not sure they are huge (in terms of performance), but I would expect the difference to be measurable (depending on the number of images on a page).
Comments
Definitely good to see Gutenberg improving
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
This one gave a quick tour:
wphive .com
The problem with WordPress.org repository
How WP Hive is Solving the Problem
There is also plugin performance and quality checking.
WPHive is useful for reference sometimes. I use it ever so often.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
I use it to compare similar plugins and decide which one I will use.
This for sure
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Elementor to increase pricing and introduce new price points.
As per mail received from them
blog archives
They want more money. Makes sense.
I've made a step-by-step tutorial for website cloning, or migration, using the free version of the All-in-One WP Migration plugin:
https://io.bikegremlin.com/19100/all-in-one-wp-migration/
@Ympker came up with the idea, I just tested it, made a more strictly structured procedure (so I can do it anytime, with half the brain on the cat-pics topic), and took some screen-shots.
🔧 BikeGremlin guides & resources
Nice write-up mate
Yeah, I have cloned/migrated many sites flawlessly using the free version. At some point I was like "heck, why not give them something back for the great plugin they offer and speed up the workflow". Ended up purchasing the Unlimited Extension for a one-time fee. Can't complain. For backups I still use Updraft Plus (free) since I like it a bit more in that regard.
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Also inteteresting for fans of Material design
https://wordpress.org/themes/material-design-google/
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I've moved my cycling website to a UK server. Any chance of US/Canada, and Australia based guys to click on a few pages and let me know if it has any problems loading?
Don't really care about split-seconds, as long as it loads "normally," not draggingly slow.
Thanks in advance for any feedback. The link:
https://bike.bikegremlin.com/
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I mean, Crunchyroll tells me I am in the US, Netflix thinks I am in the UK and Canada is only a click away with the VPN of choice :P Jk, can only offer clicks from Spain. 5$/click for seo traffic
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My (subjective) impression:
While it was on a US server, my connection to it was noticeably slower, compared to the UK server based website version in my native (identical in terms of everything, but language).
Now that it's been moved, when I use a "US VPN connection," and compare it to a "UK VPN connection," or no VPN at all, I don't see nearly as much difference.
So I suppose feedback from "real people" would be helpful.
Again - not chasing 0.5 s page load times, as long as it seems to "load normally," I'm happy.
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Hmm - noticed a strange thing - seems to have started about 10 days ago, and is domain-wide:
All the websites on my domain (bikegremlin.com) show basically zero visitors in Google Analytics, since the start of this February.
Hadn't changed anything with the tags, or plugins.
I use AMP, but the tracking code is added for AMP as well.
Websites on other domains aren't affected.
When I browse my website, Google analytics shows the pages I open in the "Active users" section (if I disable the AdBlocker, of course).
I tried using "incognito" browser mode with a VPN. Googling that way still shows all my pages in search results.
Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this?
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Looks interesting. I checked out a few other themes as well - but keep coming back to GeneratePress. :-)
wp-Meliora also looks interesting among the new lot.
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I think I need to give Generatepress a try. Was it free or payto?
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That annoying guy who just "steps" into the conversation:
GeneratePress is like most other themes available on wp.org:
You get the basic functionality for free, but you need to pay for having all the available options using just mouse-clicks.
Fortunately, it is very well documented, support is really excellent, so you can do most stuff with your custom code using a child theme.
For web-shops, I prefer Ocean WP, for all else - GeneratePress.
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Hi, does anyone know why using Cloudflare for one whole site is much more slower than using Cloudflare only for the images?
Do I configure it wrong? Please share your thoughts.
Lazyload seems not working with Cloudflare.
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You may continue to annoy. Adds to others' learning!
(I do not have answer to the query you posted reg google analytics. Can only think of older version )
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GeneratePress free version is good enough, used with generateblocks it is adequate for most sites. During BF I picked up the paid version (not of generatebocks though) - customization options are slightly better. But nothing that can be achieved by child themes.
For 50 US Dollars, no cap on number of sites where the theme can be used. One of the better deals out there.
I get pagespeed of 92 mobile, without much optimization, Once I tweak images, might get 95 plus. Cannot complain on that count.
Unde rthe new Accessibility and other guidelines proposed by google - to be implemented in May: here are my rankings:
https://lighthouse-dot-webdotdevsite.appspot.com//lh/html?url=https://amarvyas.in
Cannot complain at all.
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Thanks for the feedback? Only paid version I see is 59$/year or 259$ Lifetime https://generatepress.com/premium/
I realize there was a BF discount but maybe you were referring to another paid version alltogether?
Sounds good though! Might have a spin
@bikegremlin sorry, no idea about that either, mate. Maybe Google analytics and gdpr caused them to not collect any more data? Anyway, no idea, really
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I think mine was a BF deal. 49 US Dollars a year/ 1,000 sites or so. Price for LT was 5 or 6 x the annual, it was around 230 or so dollars.
Hazy memory. I only have bills to pay and receipts to file :-)
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Haha true
Would have opted for lifetime to setup and forget haha 
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I don't see analytics.js in your website page source. Maybe you are using a plugin to include google analytics and the plugin isn't working?
Or maybe you somehow combined/minified some js and cloudflare cached that and google analytics might not work.
As for the GP:
They used to sell for about 50$, with discount for renewal (ending up at 30$).
I thought about it, and thought: "Oh, well - it's not too bad, if I ever need it, I'll pay."
Never needed anything that couldn't be solved with just a little bit of custom code (so far at least).
Now comes the tin-foil hat!
GP was a small team (or a one-man show) that still managed to make a well written, well optimized theme, with superb support (even for us free users).
Now, WP is obviously moving in the direction of pushing out themes and page builders - to a great extent.
So I guess it makes sense to sell a few lifetimes, and maybe raise the price a bit, to make a lifetime purchase look more "reasonable."
If I used any of the pro options, I'd still buy it - probably going with lifetime (to not worry about whether my bank had cleared the payment, or not... read all about serbian banks haha
).
As for the analytics: that's probably Murphy's law. I hadn't checked it regularly, and when I was helping a friend with their website, explaining, and configuring all the stuff... that's when I realized it's not really working.
Trying with the new, "V4" analytics codes now, to see if those will work. I had delayed playing with that - but suppose now is the time to get into it, see what's new and how it's done.
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Hmmm. Strange. I just checked. Cleared cache, and all:
<script async src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js?id=UA-64 .... and so on
Looks identical (apart from the exact tracking code number) to the non WP (plain HTML) website that works fine in Analytics.
And - it shows visitors in "live traffic". That's how I first check if it's configured: by opening pages (with no ad-blocker) and checking if my views are shown in the live traffic info.
Since only WP websites are affected, it could be a WP/plugin/theme problem.
Except - on other domains I have other websites that use the same plugins, but have no problems.
Quite strange.
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Thanks for the thorough reply, mate
Sounds indeed like a good pick!
Gonna be interesting to see how wp changes as pagebuilders/themes are to some degree pushed out.
Hope you can fix the analytics issue soon
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<script async src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js?id=UA-64 .... and so on
Are you checking when logged in? I don't see that, all i see is this:
https://io.bikegremlin.com/wp-content/litespeed/localres/www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js?id=...
Will look into it.
Suspecting LiteSpeed cache for now.
Since a website not using LiteSpeed (plain HTML one) is looking normally. While it too is using the same Cloudflare configuration.
Just dug this out.
Still not sure if it makes sense, but will look into it.
Edit:
Seems to have fixed it - for now at least.
Disabled the local caching for the GA scripts in LiteSpeed options.
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Disabled the local caching for the GA scripts in LiteSpeed options.
Good to hear you fixed it. Seems my first guess was right then, the combining/minifying broke it for cloudflare.
Yes. Your suggestion got the solution. I was stuck.
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Is that true Minify/combine css and js will cause problems with Cloudflare?
Should I disable that?
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I can't say for sure what the problem is. I would think it's because google analytics doesn't get loaded from google which makes cloudflare cache/proxy it which breaks google analytics. But it's also possible litespeed managed to break it somehow.
I'm using WP Rocket and enable Minfiy and combine for Javascript and css (but I don't enable HTTP/2 option).
Using Cloudflare gives additional load time, but if I use Cloudflare for images only, no problem happened.
What do you think?
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I googled wp rocket and found this:
https://docs.wp-rocket.me/article/1103-google-tracking-add-on
They mentioned this:
So here's my guess, you didn't use gtag and you aren't using google analytics as the verification method (whatever that means), so your google analytics works. @bikegremlin used gtag and that didn't work. Imo, cloudflare on average gives better loading times globally, and it's free and doesn't take any effort from your end. You can obviously find a faster solution but it's probably not worth the effort.
At the moment I don't have any problem with Google Analytics as I don't use Gtag manager.
As I said earlier, using Cloudflare to cache everything adds up to 0.8ms initial load time and that's really sucks.
The second matter is about wp-content, does anyone know how to properly move whole wp-content to subdomain? So I can server css and js with no cookies subdomain.
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It's not that simple.
And no - it doesn't generally (not in my opinion).
In this particular case - LiteSpeed's storing of GA scripts locally seemed to have caused the problem. Had to disable that.
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I thought this was a good write-up about serving images/media from subdomain: https://www.blogbeginner.com/serve-images-from-a-subdomain/
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Why exactly is loading images from a subdomain faster? Can't the browser load images in parallel on the same domain?
There are various blog posts and articles about speed improvements like https://aaron.kr/content/code/move-wordpress-media-uploads-to-a-subdomain/ but, personally, I host them on the main domain. Just feels better, tbh.
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Elementor's price hike seems to be quite the topic over at Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/lg5sej/elementor_increasing_plan_pricing_from_199_for/
I'd like to believe 1$/year per site on the 999 sites plan is still "fair" but I can also understand people complaining. A while back I considered creating some sites with Elementor but kinda happy I stuck with Divi and its' good old lifetime license for unlimited sites. Setup & forget.
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Nothing like being set to fix a broken site that someone set up using Elementor some years ago. I actually never used Elementor much. I tend to migrate my clients away from it, over to something like Divi's lifetime ...
(Have some other sites using ThemeForest themes that suddenly break something. They get updates, but when updates break something, you have to pay for more support.)
I hear you. For clients I only use Divi because of lifetime and I am confident they'll be around for a while. Not much support from Divi's side but after 1-2 patches most stuff gets fixed and I put my clients on daily backup hosting plans for a reason
Btw. just pulled the trigger on LiveCanvas Lifetime. 99$ was too good an offer to pass up and I can see myself using it for personal projects and/or simple client sites
OxygenBuilder als looks lightweigth and comes at 89$ lifetime but not sure if it is really that good. Any experiences?
Qubely seems to be in stagnant development atm (unfortunately) and Appsumo sales questions haven't been answered since a while. Fingers crossed but for what it is, it performs great so far and an upadte was only pushed recently. Maybe they just do away with Appsumo?
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I use Brizy (rather plan to use it now) and have elementor essential addons. Was considering mobirose after the blog series on page builders. Had/have Visualmodo plans that use WP Bakery.
At the end of the day, choose what works best for you and the project. I have started using as barebones a theme/ set of features as I can- less maintenance, more focus on content
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Now I know the cause of this problem.
Cloudflare does not cache HTML, CSS and JS, after each request, it will fetch from the origin first.
This will cause an extra load time.
I guess the solution is to make a page rules in Cloudflare to cache everything not only images.
Then another problem will come, cached pages that consist of dynamic information (like comment page, or even GA, will have invalid information).
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Serving media from cookie-less domain is suggested by GTMetrix.
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I agree with you. Mobirise has served me well btw
> @Fritz said:
You are on the righ track, I think. However, I have also often read that full-site cache with CF is discouraged from as it slows down site as opposed to selective. FWIW not using any CDN in my site rn.
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Long post. Probably pointless - but some info might be helpful, or interesting.
Example 1
This one is served through CF - so practically all the pages are cached there. GTmetrix report, for noting any optimization errors (well, Images should be better optimized, but that's a long story):
Example 2
This is my website, where **CF caches images and some static stuff, but not all ** ('cause it takes money, or a particular free plugin to enable that, without visitors seeing cached version of admin pages and vice-versa).
With google ads (they cripple performance):
Example 2b:
Same site, with Ad-Block enabled (no Google AdSense ads):
Example 3:
And, here's a static HTML website, cached with CF:
Pointless drivel:
- All of these are hosted on the same server, and tested from the same location, that is near the server.
A good test and comparison when it comes to Cloudflare, would be to compare by testing from a distant location - and judging whether CF helps websites who use it, compared to those who don't.
In my experience, on the whole, CF still does more good than harm (at least for my uses).
Finally, more on topic:
Hosting images on a separate (sub)domain adds a bit more complication, hassle - in terms of adding, removing and updating content.
However, in terms of performance, I think it's a good idea.
Don't know if WP can be configured to just link to your chosen image-server, not having to be re-directed with .htaccess rules or similar.
The bottom line (for me at least): compared to other optimization related stuff, off-loading images never seamed like a very important thing.
Then again - not selling anything, so cutting the page load time from 2.5 to 1.9 seconds doesn't really have any "conversion" to affect.
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Wow, thanks for the thorough and interesting reply, mate! Will read more thoroughly after I finish work
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Use a CDN for images instead of subdomain. In case you have to re-use the images elsewhere, so also for speed, etc- with BunnyCDN or Gumlet- you are paying 1 US Dollar a month for peace of mind.
ALso keeps the DB size smaller for WP backups in case you have to migrate.
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Using a CDN for images makes the DB smaller? Not just the files (uploads) directory?
5 $ Cloudflare package lets you use their network of edge (CDN) servers for serving both all the images, and all the cached pages.
Or you could use a free plugin to avoid paying the 5$ fee. Called:
WP Cloudflare Super Page Cache
Still, I don't think this negates the performance benefits of serving images from a different (sub)domain.
Not sure they are huge (in terms of performance), but I would expect the difference to be measurable (depending on the number of images on a page).
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