@Mason said: Not sure I understand the .com vs .org issue.
Don't mean to make a big deal out of it. It might just be me! I thought .org was for non-profits. When I followed the donation link I didn't notice anything about fees on the landing page. I thought that there would be no fee. But, since I'm a suspicious guy, I decided to look around. On the DonorBox home page there was a link to Pricing. Wow! I was so disappointed that I forgot to check whether they are a non-profit or not. Maybe they are!
I don't think .org was ever intended to be just for non-profits, just... "organizations" in general. It just ended up being commonly used by non-profits.
Apparently though, you can make it so your donors cover the processing fee. I guess it has to be enabled, as I can't see that option right now during the donation process.
Okay, so 13 donations for a total of $742.22. Average donation might be $57.09.
For me the hardest thing about donating was figuring out the basis on which to calculate the amount to donate.
My initial thought was $100, but that was just the number which popped into my mind.
After I thought awhile, I decided that, if monthly costs were about $30 and 30 members donated $1, the goal would be reached. So I donated $12, which was a monthly amount of $1, annualized.
Even though donations already exceed current monthly expenses, I hope people who are willing to donate would continue to do so. It would be good to get a sense of how many of our members actually are able and willing to send cents donate.
Once @Mason and @mikho decide what they want to do, if they put up a budget, that might be helpful in deciding how much to donate. ✅
@Not_Oles said:
Okay, so 13 donations for a total of $742.22. Average donation might be $57.09.
Aye, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions based solely on the numbers above. The median donation is $12 and only two individuals donated above the average, so the distribution is pretty skewed.
Any amount offered is much appreciated and more than I was expecting to begin with
@Mason said:
Any amount offered is much appreciated and more than I was expecting to begin with
Aaah that's a good attitude to get about this. After the post wondering how the donations will stack up to subscriptions, I wasn't sure what metric of success there would be.
We know the goal at LET is a 30% adoption rate at $100/6 months, but I'm not sure if we have the total provider count to complete that calculation. And even if I could calculate that target, I'm not sure it's a fair comparison when the funding models are so different. Plus there's the issue of different underlying expenses... Even if both sides have overlapping userbases, this is really comparing apples to oranges.
But I guess just being grateful for anything at all means you'll always win. Clever clever
@Ironia said: We know the goal at LET is a 30% adoption rate at $100/6 months
I thought it was actually 70% adoption rate (30% switching to non-paid status), which I don't think is realistic.
I don't remember exactly what they said, but I'm just going to assume you're correct because it would make sense to try to pick a number such that the majority of providers stay providers.
... But also that would make their expected income over twice as much when fully calculated out. Glad I don't have the actual number or that might spook me.
in an amusing (personal) twist, if not for the kerfuffle going over yonder, i'd maybe never have realized that ownership changed here (i'd mostly avoided this forum cuz reasons).
I ain’t reading all that, but I’m happy for you though. Or sorry that happened.
@zed said:
in an amusing (personal) twist, if not for the kerfuffle going over yonder, i'd maybe never have realized that ownership changed here (i'd mostly avoided this forum cuz reasons).
Me too, to be honest. It was a very positive surprise.
@Mason said: Our costs are transparent. I've outlined our specific costs to operate this site. Comes out to ~$30/mo and some change (3x Hetzner VMs ~$15/mo, monthly runcloud sub $15/mo, yearly mailcheap email hosting ~$2/mo). All of which I'm paying out of my own pocket without any issue.
Where can I donate? I can't afford a marketing budget so I can only donate to support communities I enjoy,
I just set this up at Donorbox as I was just using my personal PayPal in the past. Should make things easier as I've used Donorbox for a gaming group in the past with good success. A thousand thanks and heaps of appreciation to all who donate.
Great idea! I don't remember the platform's name, but there was a platform where you could accept donations and it publicly showed how much money is in the pod and the cashflow where it goes (e.g. if it is spent on Hetzner or whatever ppl would see where it goes). Would also be cool to see (ofc not in terms of doubting the glorious M&M Duo but rather "see" where your money goes and better understand the expenses). Just an idea Of course, would first need to check what fees they charge etc. I just saw an open source project on GitHub using this the other day and thought it looked neat.
Edit: Found it. It's called "Open Collective":
From their website a tl;dr:
Community is about trust and sharing. Open Collective lets you manage your finances so everyone can see where money comes from and where it goes.
@Lampard said:
Just joined LES - was thinking to join already from a long time.
I really like the transparency here, and personally believe that the cost of running the forums shouldn't be too much.
I myself have run different forum communities for many years that were related to gaming, which were really active.
@Mason said: Our costs are transparent. I've outlined our specific costs to operate this site. Comes out to ~$30/mo and some change (3x Hetzner VMs ~$15/mo, monthly runcloud sub $15/mo, yearly mailcheap email hosting ~$2/mo). All of which I'm paying out of my own pocket without any issue.
Where can I donate? I can't afford a marketing budget so I can only donate to support communities I enjoy,
I just set this up at Donorbox as I was just using my personal PayPal in the past. Should make things easier as I've used Donorbox for a gaming group in the past with good success. A thousand thanks and heaps of appreciation to all who donate.
Great idea! I don't remember the platform's name, but there was a platform where you could accept donations and it publicly showed how much money is in the pod and the cashflow where it goes (e.g. if it is spent on Hetzner or whatever ppl would see where it goes). Would also be cool to see (ofc not in terms of doubting the glorious M&M Duo but rather "see" where your money goes and better understand the expenses). Just an idea Of course, would first need to check what fees they charge etc. I just saw an open source project on GitHub using this the other day and thought it looked neat.
Edit: Found it. It's called "Open Collective":
From their website a tl;dr:
Community is about trust and sharing. Open Collective lets you manage your finances so everyone can see where money comes from and where it goes.
@lentro said:
Woohooo! $22k/year seems a bit excessive to me from LET, maybe they need to start thinking with the Low End Spirit
Thanks @Mason and @mikho! Providing value to all community members with costs so low that donations and personal contributions are enough to keep the forum afloat
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
Just remember a wee bit of credit to @AntFish, who made this all happen. I'd tried to kick it off with a suitable domain name but he pushed LES into existence.
Apart from my standard monthly fees to clients, I also work/impart information on a donations basis. I view anything I get through donations as a bonus and though infrequent, a donation is always appreciated. Last week I got a fiver from someone out-of-the-blue - a great surprise!
Of course, best wishes to the forum, going forward. Like with other projects (Mint, TinyCP etc.), I'm sure I'll pop in a small donation, once in a while. As I say, if everyone pays a buck then it can make a huge difference.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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@Mason said: Our costs are transparent. I've outlined our specific costs to operate this site. Comes out to ~$30/mo and some change (3x Hetzner VMs ~$15/mo, monthly runcloud sub $15/mo, yearly mailcheap email hosting ~$2/mo). All of which I'm paying out of my own pocket without any issue.
Where can I donate? I can't afford a marketing budget so I can only donate to support communities I enjoy,
I just set this up at Donorbox as I was just using my personal PayPal in the past. Should make things easier as I've used Donorbox for a gaming group in the past with good success. A thousand thanks and heaps of appreciation to all who donate.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
lowendspirit initially runs on a 256MB box, as a "ticket system" for NAT sellers.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
lowendspirit initially runs on a 256MB box, as a "ticket system" for NAT sellers.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
Yes, and on top of that, long story short, let's just say Anthony Smith, who started/founded LES and who also runs Inception Hosting, went his own way and parted from moderating LET and the platform itself, started his own paradise, which is this.
LES is not owned by anyone, not even Ant, but he is the founder and this place is purely a community-driven platform, which I personally see it as the lowender's haven.
Now Ant has stepped aside from managing, maintaining and moderating LES, which he then passed his responsibilities on to two great admins, moderators and tech guys where we refer them as M&M, being @mikho and @Mason.
Hope I got all of that right and it wasn't just a bed time story
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
lowendspirit initially runs on a 256MB box, as a "ticket system" for NAT sellers.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
Yes, and on top of that, long story short, let's just say Anthony Smith, who started/founded LES and who also runs Inception Hosting, went his own way and parted from moderating LET and the platform itself, started his own paradise, which is this.
LES is not owned by anyone, not even Ant, but he is the founder and this place is purely a community-driven platform, which I personally see it as the lowender's haven.
Now Ant has stepped aside from managing, maintaining and moderating LES, which he then passed his responsibilities on to two great admins, moderators and tech guys where we refer them as M&M, being @mikho and @Mason.
Hope I got all of that right and it wasn't just a bed time story
Just to add to what @TheDP said, a few years ago, LET/LEB (but especially LEB) were in a neglected state (neglected by the owner(s)), which was the main motivation behind Ant's starting LES.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
lowendspirit initially runs on a 256MB box, as a "ticket system" for NAT sellers.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
Yes, and on top of that, long story short, let's just say Anthony Smith, who started/founded LES and who also runs Inception Hosting, went his own way and parted from moderating LET and the platform itself, started his own paradise, which is this.
LES is not owned by anyone, not even Ant, but he is the founder and this place is purely a community-driven platform, which I personally see it as the lowender's haven.
Now Ant has stepped aside from managing, maintaining and moderating LES, which he then passed his responsibilities on to two great admins, moderators and tech guys where we refer them as M&M, being @mikho and @Mason.
Hope I got all of that right and it wasn't just a bed time story
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
lowendspirit initially runs on a 256MB box, as a "ticket system" for NAT sellers.
@stratagem said:
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
Yes, and on top of that, long story short, let's just say Anthony Smith, who started/founded LES and who also runs Inception Hosting, went his own way and parted from moderating LET and the platform itself, started his own paradise, which is this.
LES is not owned by anyone, not even Ant, but he is the founder and this place is purely a community-driven platform, which I personally see it as the lowender's haven.
Now Ant has stepped aside from managing, maintaining and moderating LES, which he then passed his responsibilities on to two great admins, moderators and tech guys where we refer them as M&M, being @mikho and @Mason.
Hope I got all of that right and it wasn't just a bed time story
Thanks for the history lesson and the references, everyone. That was very educational - not just about LE History but about hosting in general... The mentions of what things used to cost boggle my mind and make me feel almost too young to be here.
Also thanks for the warning about avoiding cross site drama. I don't want to cause trouble around here and I appreciate being gently introduced to the local culture so I don't find myself suddenly up against the ban hammer.
Warning!! You may see more frequent post from me here and although this may lower the overall quality of LES posts, I will do my best to refrain from posting bus photos. Mainly I am here to support the small providers that the OGF is pushing out and because all the people that I have respected over the last 10 years on that forum have moved here over the last couple of years. Hopefully this is acceptable to the community.
@FrankZ said:
Warning!! You may see more frequent post from me here and although this may lower the overall quality of LES posts, I will do my best to refrain from posting bus photos. Mainly I am here to support the small providers that the OGF is pushing out and because all the people that I have respected over the last 10 years on that forum have moved here over the last couple of years. Hopefully this is acceptable to the community.
@FrankZ said:
Warning!! You may see more frequent post from me here and although this may lower the overall quality of LES posts, I will do my best to refrain from posting bus photos. Mainly I am here to support the small providers that the OGF is pushing out and because all the people that I have respected over the last 10 years on that forum have moved here over the last couple of years. Hopefully this is acceptable to the community.
I no doubt missed the crucial detail, but what was at the origin of the bus photo meme? (Something VirMach-related?)
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@storm said:
Whose idea was it to start posting buses/trains/boats anyway? I mean get that we select for CAPTCHA, but it would be an interesting story to tell my kids someday.
I was there, but my memory is fragile. So I made some research.
Everything started in a Black Friday day in 2018 from @VirMach.
After a lot of words shared on The great thread of 2018, a lot of people decided to spent their time posting the page number inside the posts. I don't know if this was because of the excitement (Virmach will make some giveaways and double giveaways at some point) or just poor UX.
Suddenly @donli posted a bus. He won't know at the time, but a milestone was set.
As many of you will know, this happened before The great derailing of 2020, when a lot of people would find all the bus stops won't be where they should be. Nobody knew something like that could happen.
After that, everybody knew what to do when the page number changes.
In the latest days, trend includes trains too.
PS: I don't know if "derailing" is the correct word for such event.
PS2. This is not a peer-reviewed paper, some mistakes have been made.
PS3. English is not my native language, and I'm not sorry about that.
PS4. Double prizes would take years to arrive.
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@Mason said: Convince DaddyMach to join us and post as many bus pics as you want
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
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@TheDP said:
Just for the record, here at LES, we don't usually discuss or carry over the drama that happens elsewhere, especially on LET.
No drama and people just being nice to each other is probably the main reason I don't visit this place very often. I know, I'm a bad person, LET has ruined me
I was gonna suggest to putting up a donation page - but that's already taken care of. Good job @Mason
Maybe a link or some display sort of on the index page of the forum would help even more. I mean I find it kind of unfair that the money is going out of your pocket for the community (selfless work), wherein the community can manage to contribute to cover the costs (obviously not to make sizeable profits) so that you won't have to manage the burden of the costs.
I was gonna suggest to putting up a donation page - but that's already taken care of. Good job @Mason
Maybe a link or some display sort of on the index page of the forum would help even more. I mean I find it kind of unfair that the money is going out of your pocket for the community (selfless work), wherein the community can manage to contribute to cover the costs (obviously not to make sizeable profits) so that you won't have to manage the burden of the costs.
There is a donor link in the sidebar. Perhaps we need a flashing GIF?
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
I think $3 is the lowest monthly amount that donor-box allows, if just 10 people would do that it would cover the monthly expenses.
I just set up a monthly donation, and if you can afford to let a bunch of VPS's idle you can afford a monthly donation too!
@rcy026 said: @Mason maybe you should look into updating the info at donor-box, I just got a thank you mail for my monthly donation to "Warband Collective"?
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I don't think
.orgwas ever intended to be just for non-profits, just... "organizations" in general. It just ended up being commonly used by non-profits.Apparently though, you can make it so your donors cover the processing fee. I guess it has to be enabled, as I can't see that option right now during the donation process.
Website: thomassen.sh
Okay, so 13 donations for a total of $742.22. Average donation might be $57.09.
For me the hardest thing about donating was figuring out the basis on which to calculate the amount to donate.
My initial thought was $100, but that was just the number which popped into my mind.
After I thought awhile, I decided that, if monthly costs were about $30 and 30 members donated $1, the goal would be reached. So I donated $12, which was a monthly amount of $1, annualized.
Even though donations already exceed current monthly expenses, I hope people who are willing to donate would continue to do so. It would be good to get a sense of how many of our members actually are able and willing to send cents donate.
Once @Mason and @mikho decide what they want to do, if they put up a budget, that might be helpful in deciding how much to donate. ✅
Friendly greetings!
Aye, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions based solely on the numbers above. The median donation is $12 and only two individuals donated above the average, so the distribution is pretty skewed.
Any amount offered is much appreciated and more than I was expecting to begin with
yabs daddy
Aaah that's a good attitude to get about this. After the post wondering how the donations will stack up to subscriptions, I wasn't sure what metric of success there would be.
We know the goal at LET is a 30% adoption rate at $100/6 months, but I'm not sure if we have the total provider count to complete that calculation. And even if I could calculate that target, I'm not sure it's a fair comparison when the funding models are so different. Plus there's the issue of different underlying expenses... Even if both sides have overlapping userbases, this is really comparing apples to oranges.
But I guess just being grateful for anything at all means you'll always win. Clever clever
I thought it was actually 70% adoption rate (30% switching to non-paid status), which I don't think is realistic.
I don't remember exactly what they said, but I'm just going to assume you're correct because it would make sense to try to pick a number such that the majority of providers stay providers.
... But also that would make their expected income over twice as much when fully calculated out. Glad I don't have the actual number or that might spook me.
in an amusing (personal) twist, if not for the kerfuffle going over yonder, i'd maybe never have realized that ownership changed here (i'd mostly avoided this forum cuz reasons).
I ain’t reading all that, but I’m happy for you though. Or sorry that happened.
How about both?
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I love this berry berry much
Non intrusive ads aren’t bad (LES has none) but profiting off hosts to let them post a thread is just sad.
Me too, to be honest. It was a very positive surprise.
I want flashy, gif and video ads in autoplay mode. And three popups minimum.
Too bad macromedia and flash player are dead. And I really, really miss real player.
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We accept Karma donations for the last flan. 🍮 affbrr
Great idea! I don't remember the platform's name, but there was a platform where you could accept donations and it publicly showed how much money is in the pod and the cashflow where it goes (e.g. if it is spent on Hetzner or whatever ppl would see where it goes). Would also be cool to see (ofc not in terms of doubting the glorious M&M Duo but rather "see" where your money goes and better understand the expenses). Just an idea
Of course, would first need to check what fees they charge etc. I just saw an open source project on GitHub using this the other day and thought it looked neat.
Edit: Found it. It's called "Open Collective":
From their website a tl;dr:
https://opencollective.com/
https://medium.com/open-collective/what-is-open-collective-how-it-works-c51bacc73d94
Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison, Uptime.is, Ympker's GitHub.
Interesting to see the monthly cost for this forum vs the other one. Quite the disparity.
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Yeah open collective is a great place to use if you rely on donations, track all the money used.
dont forget to post deals here!
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
I’m sure people would be happy to donate to help cover the fees - I certainly would! Let me know if I can help.
LES was not created to compete with LET or any other forums and this is a clear example of a "community driven" platform vs a "community focused" platform
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
Just remember a wee bit of credit to @AntFish, who made this all happen. I'd tried to kick it off with a suitable domain name but he pushed LES into existence.
Apart from my standard monthly fees to clients, I also work/impart information on a donations basis. I view anything I get through donations as a bonus and though infrequent, a donation is always appreciated. Last week I got a fiver from someone out-of-the-blue - a great surprise!
Of course, best wishes to the forum, going forward. Like with other projects (Mint, TinyCP etc.), I'm sure I'll pop in a small donation, once in a while. As I say, if everyone pays a buck then it can make a huge difference.
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
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I donated something, not much, but I hope it will help grow this place.
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Any chance you could give a short origin story for the two? I'm kind of a noob to both forums and I just found them (plus HostedTalk) via Google alerts. They all seemed to have overlapping userbase so I assumed they were sister sites of some sort, but it looks like things might be a little more complicated than that.
lowendspirit initially runs on a 256MB box, as a "ticket system" for NAT sellers.
Action and Reaction in history
Yes, and on top of that, long story short, let's just say Anthony Smith, who started/founded LES and who also runs Inception Hosting, went his own way and parted from moderating LET and the platform itself, started his own paradise, which is this.
LES is not owned by anyone, not even Ant, but he is the founder and this place is purely a community-driven platform, which I personally see it as the lowender's haven.
Now Ant has stepped aside from managing, maintaining and moderating LES, which he then passed his responsibilities on to two great admins, moderators and tech guys where we refer them as M&M, being @mikho and @Mason.
Hope I got all of that right and it wasn't just a bed time story
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
Just to add to what @TheDP said, a few years ago, LET/LEB (but especially LEB) were in a neglected state (neglected by the owner(s)), which was the main motivation behind Ant's starting LES.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
As a reference, read these topics
https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/2317/a-year-in-les-reflections-thoughts-my-history-and-the-future-for-lowendspirit
https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/2574/congratulations-to-mason-the-new-les-admin
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
This as well, the original origin story from our lord and savior, Ant.
https://lowendspirit.com/hello-world/
Edit: and here's the thread when mikho and myself took over in Anthony's place:
https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/2577/new-admin-who-dis
yabs daddy
@Ironia - Just for the record, here at LES, we don't usually discuss or carry over the drama that happens elsewhere, especially on LET.
It does slip in once in a while but it does not get dragged for long and it's better that way.
This is just a "special" occasion
"The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson
No drama makes LES boring for some. Good for us !
On that note was tempted to link/reference Ant’s rant on OGF and the call to arms to start LES. But good point on drama. Best left at that.
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Thanks for the history lesson and the references, everyone. That was very educational - not just about LE History but about hosting in general... The mentions of what things used to cost boggle my mind and make me feel almost too young to be here.
Also thanks for the warning about avoiding cross site drama. I don't want to cause trouble around here and I appreciate being gently introduced to the local culture so I don't find myself suddenly up against the ban hammer.
Warning!! You may see more frequent post from me here and although this may lower the overall quality of LES posts, I will do my best to refrain from posting bus photos. Mainly I am here to support the small providers that the OGF is pushing out and because all the people that I have respected over the last 10 years on that forum have moved here over the last couple of years. Hopefully this is acceptable to the community.
We do allow bus photos in this thread https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/3265/bored-then-post-your-best-gifs-imgs-youtubes created by @ehab
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
I no doubt missed the crucial detail, but what was at the origin of the bus photo meme?
(Something VirMach-related?)
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Convince DaddyMach to join us and post as many bus pics as you want
yabs daddy
I think @imok said it best, so I will just quote his post. (I have removed the OGF from the links in the post .)
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I'll work on that.
Too bad i found my account not working which i had it from 2017 reg here
Did account expire when not active for more then 6 months or year?
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.. more than!
In stasis until the shitposting stops/abates.
Than=compare;then=sequence:brought=bring;bought=buy:staffs=pile of sticks:informations/infos=no plural.
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Maybe from the old forum version?
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No drama and people just being nice to each other is probably the main reason I don't visit this place very often. I know, I'm a bad person, LET has ruined me
Accounts from the old forum was not moved over to vanilla.
That might explain why it didn’t work.
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Happy for this
Thanks @Mason & @mikho
I was gonna suggest to putting up a donation page - but that's already taken care of. Good job @Mason
Maybe a link or some display sort of on the index page of the forum would help even more. I mean I find it kind of unfair that the money is going out of your pocket for the community (selfless work), wherein the community can manage to contribute to cover the costs (obviously not to make sizeable profits) so that you won't have to manage the burden of the costs.
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There is a donor link in the sidebar. Perhaps we need a flashing GIF?
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Yikes! I did glance once before writing the above reply, did not notice it. Indeed make it flashy or at least bold or different colour
Think I'm getting old - observation power is getting weak
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I think $3 is the lowest monthly amount that donor-box allows, if just 10 people would do that it would cover the monthly expenses.
I just set up a monthly donation, and if you can afford to let a bunch of VPS's idle you can afford a monthly donation too!
@Mason maybe you should look into updating the info at donor-box, I just got a thank you mail for my monthly donation to "Warband Collective"?
reported and @Mason is trying to solve it.
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