Stick with wired, you'll have less headaches in the end.
No preference to any particular brands. Razor is nice, but honestly I didn't think the experience was any different compared to the "cheapo" gaming mice on Amazon (~$20-ish).
+1 for wired. I used to buy an expensive Roccat Mouse in the past. Now it's just a 15-20€ mouse from one of the budget gaming brands on Amazon like Havit. Classic bigger gaming brands are Roccat, Razer, Corsair, Logitech even..
As for keyboards, I notice much more of a difference between an expensive gaming keyboard and a 20€ cheapo.
Logitech G903 Lightspeed works great. Logitech's R&D they did on the wireless protocol works wonders even in a contaminated RF environment and the battery life is stellar. Well worth the price.
RSI players use thumb trackballs.
Speedball 2 fecks joysticks.
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How old is he and what does he play? Kids that don't know any better will have fun with cheap mice. That said, I got my 5 year old a cheap wireless Logitech keyboard + mouse set but he ahhhed and ohhhed so much at my MX518 revamp's autoclicker (we play Roblox together) that "Santa" "brought him one", too.
Personally, I hate Chinese mice, but then I hate all non-Logitech-MX-mice.
Logitechs get a lot of flak for their Omron switches, but if you want to preserve the health of your son's finger joints for longer, those light clicks might help.
I have one of these, I dont use the side buttons much, converted the DPI buttons to forward and back buttons for easy browsing, and assign like button 10 to Push-to-Talk.
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But it's good - and was relatively cheap (under $30). Not sure where to buy it now. It's still available in Serbia.
Software customization is crappy, so that's a downside. But the basic functionality works - and it seems durable. Ergonomy is good, apart from the wheel which is a bit more textured than I'd like (prefer smoother wheels).
Has weight and size of "how they used to make 'em." I've used it for work primarily, but I love gaming and it does that job too very well.
As @Mason said above - avoid wireless unless really pressed for it. Especially for gaming. Yes, in theory, gaming peripherals are super-fast and all. In practice... Not really always.
@Mason said:
Stick with wired, you'll have less headaches in the end.
No preference to any particular brands. Razor is nice, but honestly I didn't think the experience was any different compared to the "cheapo" gaming mice on Amazon (~$20-ish).
G304 would like to have a word with you,
Also razor deathadder (essential) is a good mouse
Beware of buying Logitech mice all have double click issue , razor uses optical switches and does not suffer from same issue
edit: anyway, I dislike Razer products with a passion, when I bought a Razer Blackwidow and the E key keeps repeating, I send Support requests and RMA request (denied) and they said I need to upgrade the firmware to fix it, it has never been fixed and is sitting in my cupboard and will most likely never be used because razer would not fix their fucked up product. I had a Naga Molten mouse that the right button died after 3 months of use, I replaced it myself with a cheap one from china, and that lasted over a year.
From my experience or rather opinion, (ultra) lightweight mouse are only good, if you are playing fingertip grip too.
With palm or claw grip your palm usually touches the mouse body and does not feel comfy with those skeleton covers. Also I feel you need more (counter) weight for claw grip, so I couldn't do much with that one he picked.
However, may work for him, depending on the games he plays and grip he develops.
I've learned not to buy super high end. The wheel is mechanical & fundamentally exposed to gunk so only a matter of time before it gives issue regardless of price. My razor died that way
These days I just get a mid tier wireless logitech whenever they're on special
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Started with original clip-on, then Marble, then 2 wireless. Have progressed to MX Ergo, at considerable cost! (Serviced i.e. cleaned out last week, after ~2 years usage. The spokes of the wheel were clogged up with fluff.)
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I quite like my Ducky Frozen Feather mostly because I like purple and blue, but the actual mouse is very nice too. It's an ultralight wired, so if you don't like super light mice it might not be fantastic. It also comes in black if you're not a fan of the purple.
Glorious makes some great products and they're a legitimate company. I've tried out Bloody, Roccat, Glorious, Logitech, Razer, Dell, Microsoft, and a lot of other mice brands. I've settled on the Glorious Model O Wireless and have been using it for the past year, highly recommend.
I ended up really liking it and it ended up being the most comfortable for me with the games I play/grip I've used for the past few years. If possible, if you have a MicroCenter in person, you can potentially try & buy some of the Glorious products.
That being said, I know people who didn't like it, so it really depends on the type of person/games/grip.
If you use Honey there's a 25% coupon code for the Glorious store if I recall.
I think it's also important to remember that this is supposed to be a gift for your son. If he wishes for that specific mouse, then I'd get him that one if it's within budget. If it's outside budget that's another story, however, it's important to remember that he is the one who needs to be happy with it. While all mentioned advice in terms of what mice to use and what to watch out for (weigth, durability..) this is also a highly emotional/psychological thing. A friend or group of friends might have a similar mouse and it gives your son (on top of usability) the possibility to say "Hey, my super cool dad got me that mouse, too". It could also be just his individual preference. If he wishes for that one and it's within budget, again, there is little reason to get another mouse. Objectively speaking, there might be a better mouse out there, but that doesn't mean he wants that one. In that case, if you were to consider another mouse ask him why he wants the mouse he mentioned, first.
Tldr; Get him the mouse he wanted if it's within budget and the company behind it/reviews are not utter crap.
Quoting good, old, Dale Carnegie here: Personally I am very fond of strawberries and cream, but I have found that for some strange reason, fish prefer worms. So when I went fishing, I didn't think about what I wanted. I thought about what they wanted. I didn't bait the hook with strawberries and cream. Rather, I dangled a worm or grasshopper in front of the fish and said: "Wouldn't you like to have that?"
Glorious's software kind of ruined everything for me multiple times. A good website for almost everything is RTINGS.com and it also looks like it's not that terrific but I agree that you should just get whatever he wants obviously, maybe just let him know about some of the potential issues though.
Logitech with HERO sensor (I don't follow it that precisely, maybe there's a ton of different sub-versions at this point but I remember it as the same sensor across many mouse product lines) seems to generally be the best or at least it was maybe two years ago when I actually did anything other than click on tickets.
Logitech is also the only brand I've ever had where it's basically lasted forever. Razer is good, kind of annoying software IMO, but always breaks. Constantly. All of them. Every single one I've ever gotten and I used to go through maybe a dozen of them for the few years I used them.
As for wired vs wireless debate, I may be misquoting this but I watch/listen to a lot of mundane videos in the background while I work and it seems like we're at an age where wireless is actually basically better than wired because since they cost more they end up being the more premium ones with the better sensors and everything and all the R&D. At least when it comes to like Logitech LIGHTSPEED or whatever. Plus most if not all wireless mouses I've seen over the last 5 years all also come with the option to switch to wired anyway to recharge it or to just use as wired.
Only time wireless has given me problems was when I was too lazy to optimize my setup and there were a bunch of other wireless devices interfering.
@VirMach said: .. also come with the option to switch to wired anyway to recharge it or to just use as wired.
This is one of the better innovations, IMO. Much better than batteries going flat at inopportune moments.
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Logitech G502 Hero. A bit more expensive than some other options, but just works. Has a good sensor, a good feel to it and it’s sturdy.
I just got this last week as my first mid-tier mouse after only buying MX500s-MX518s since they came out. The G502 is certainly more modern, feels premium, and doesn't feel wacky like the Intellimouse which has a big butt that intrudes on my fourth finger's resting point -- I especially like the infinite scrolling and thumb button -- but it's SOOO heavy on my thumb! My thumb joint hurts for the first time in years. If the pain continues, I might really have to go the drilling route to reduce its weight. It could just be from my age (early 40s with too much game time logged over the years), but I wouldn't get one for my kids because I don't want them getting early arthritis. Need to save those little healthy fingers so that they can play more games throughout their lives 🙂
There are many great gaming mice on the market, and the best one for you will depend on your specific needs and preferences. Some popular options include the Logitech G Pro Wireless, the Razer DeathAdder Elite, and the SteelSeries Rival 600. (The one I use). These mice are well-reviewed for their precision and customization options, but you should read reviews, compare features, and try out different models before deciding.
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Stick with wired, you'll have less headaches in the end.
No preference to any particular brands. Razor is nice, but honestly I didn't think the experience was any different compared to the "cheapo" gaming mice on Amazon (~$20-ish).
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+1 for wired. I used to buy an expensive Roccat Mouse in the past. Now it's just a 15-20€ mouse from one of the budget gaming brands on Amazon like Havit. Classic bigger gaming brands are Roccat, Razer, Corsair, Logitech even..
As for keyboards, I notice much more of a difference between an expensive gaming keyboard and a 20€ cheapo.
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Logitech G903 Lightspeed works great. Logitech's R&D they did on the wireless protocol works wonders even in a contaminated RF environment and the battery life is stellar. Well worth the price.
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g903-hero-wireless-gaming-mouse.910-005670.html
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this.
@ehab listen to the chief! he knows what he's talking about.
Mentally strong gamers play with joysticks.
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No mouse or keyboard needed.
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look into the red dragon brand for cheap but good
RSI players use thumb trackballs.
Speedball 2 fecks joysticks.
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I use Redragon M908. I recommend it, it's both wired and wireless.
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How old is he and what does he play? Kids that don't know any better will have fun with cheap mice. That said, I got my 5 year old a cheap wireless Logitech keyboard + mouse set but he ahhhed and ohhhed so much at my MX518 revamp's autoclicker (we play Roblox together) that "Santa" "brought him one", too.
Personally, I hate Chinese mice, but then I hate all non-Logitech-MX-mice.
Logitechs get a lot of flak for their Omron switches, but if you want to preserve the health of your son's finger joints for longer, those light clicks might help.
he is almost 12.
Logitech cheap G302 or better G502, great software support
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I have one of these, I dont use the side buttons much, converted the DPI buttons to forward and back buttons for easy browsing, and assign like button 10 to Push-to-Talk.
having a larger hand, I find it fits nicely
what game? logitech b100 is universally usable as gaming moose
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But it's good - and was relatively cheap (under $30). Not sure where to buy it now. It's still available in Serbia.
Software customization is crappy, so that's a downside. But the basic functionality works - and it seems durable. Ergonomy is good, apart from the wheel which is a bit more textured than I'd like (prefer smoother wheels).
Has weight and size of "how they used to make 'em." I've used it for work primarily, but I love gaming and it does that job too very well.
As @Mason said above - avoid wireless unless really pressed for it. Especially for gaming. Yes, in theory, gaming peripherals are super-fast and all. In practice... Not really always.
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The best mouse I had was Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical
Should be worth buying if you can get an original one. Unsure how it will fit a 12 y.o. guy's hand though. Mine is probably bigger.
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Just found one of these in a box yesterday. Original white intellimouse. Kind of odd you brought it up.
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Also razor deathadder (essential) is a good mouse
Beware of buying Logitech mice all have double click issue , razor uses optical switches and does not suffer from same issue
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Logitech G502 Hero. A bit more expensive than some other options, but just works. Has a good sensor, a good feel to it and it’s sturdy.
You will pry my Logitech Trackball from my cold dead hands.
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my son is asking for this one
Glorious Model O
https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/glorious-model-o-black
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-essential/4.html
right?
edit: anyway, I dislike Razer products with a passion, when I bought a Razer Blackwidow and the E key keeps repeating, I send Support requests and RMA request (denied) and they said I need to upgrade the firmware to fix it, it has never been fixed and is sitting in my cupboard and will most likely never be used because razer would not fix their fucked up product. I had a Naga Molten mouse that the right button died after 3 months of use, I replaced it myself with a cheap one from china, and that lasted over a year.
From my experience or rather opinion, (ultra) lightweight mouse are only good, if you are playing fingertip grip too.
With palm or claw grip your palm usually touches the mouse body and does not feel comfy with those skeleton covers. Also I feel you need more (counter) weight for claw grip, so I couldn't do much with that one he picked.
However, may work for him, depending on the games he plays and grip he develops.
I've learned not to buy super high end. The wheel is mechanical & fundamentally exposed to gunk so only a matter of time before it gives issue regardless of price. My razor died that way
These days I just get a mid tier wireless logitech whenever they're on special
Started with original clip-on, then Marble, then 2 wireless. Have progressed to MX Ergo, at considerable cost!
(Serviced i.e. cleaned out last week, after ~2 years usage. The spokes of the wheel were clogged up with fluff.)
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I quite like my Ducky Frozen Feather mostly because I like purple and blue, but the actual mouse is very nice too. It's an ultralight wired, so if you don't like super light mice it might not be fantastic. It also comes in black if you're not a fan of the purple.
Glorious makes some great products and they're a legitimate company. I've tried out Bloody, Roccat, Glorious, Logitech, Razer, Dell, Microsoft, and a lot of other mice brands. I've settled on the Glorious Model O Wireless and have been using it for the past year, highly recommend.
I ended up really liking it and it ended up being the most comfortable for me with the games I play/grip I've used for the past few years. If possible, if you have a MicroCenter in person, you can potentially try & buy some of the Glorious products.
That being said, I know people who didn't like it, so it really depends on the type of person/games/grip.
If you use Honey there's a 25% coupon code for the Glorious store if I recall.
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I think it's also important to remember that this is supposed to be a gift for your son. If he wishes for that specific mouse, then I'd get him that one if it's within budget. If it's outside budget that's another story, however, it's important to remember that he is the one who needs to be happy with it. While all mentioned advice in terms of what mice to use and what to watch out for (weigth, durability..) this is also a highly emotional/psychological thing. A friend or group of friends might have a similar mouse and it gives your son (on top of usability) the possibility to say "Hey, my super cool dad got me that mouse, too". It could also be just his individual preference. If he wishes for that one and it's within budget, again, there is little reason to get another mouse. Objectively speaking, there might be a better mouse out there, but that doesn't mean he wants that one. In that case, if you were to consider another mouse ask him why he wants the mouse he mentioned, first.
Tldr; Get him the mouse he wanted if it's within budget and the company behind it/reviews are not utter crap.
Quoting good, old, Dale Carnegie here:
Personally I am very fond of strawberries and cream, but I have found that for some strange reason, fish prefer worms. So when I went fishing, I didn't think about what I wanted. I thought about what they wanted. I didn't bait the hook with strawberries and cream. Rather, I dangled a worm or grasshopper in front of the fish and said: "Wouldn't you like to have that?"
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This is the best advise given indeed. @ehab you know what to do now!
yes i do
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Glorious's software kind of ruined everything for me multiple times. A good website for almost everything is RTINGS.com and it also looks like it's not that terrific but I agree that you should just get whatever he wants obviously, maybe just let him know about some of the potential issues though.
https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/compare/logitech-g502-hero-vs-glorious-model-o/1612/1620?usage=8876&threshold=0.10
Logitech with HERO sensor (I don't follow it that precisely, maybe there's a ton of different sub-versions at this point but I remember it as the same sensor across many mouse product lines) seems to generally be the best or at least it was maybe two years ago when I actually did anything other than click on tickets.
Logitech is also the only brand I've ever had where it's basically lasted forever. Razer is good, kind of annoying software IMO, but always breaks. Constantly. All of them. Every single one I've ever gotten and I used to go through maybe a dozen of them for the few years I used them.
As for wired vs wireless debate, I may be misquoting this but I watch/listen to a lot of mundane videos in the background while I work and it seems like we're at an age where wireless is actually basically better than wired because since they cost more they end up being the more premium ones with the better sensors and everything and all the R&D. At least when it comes to like Logitech LIGHTSPEED or whatever. Plus most if not all wireless mouses I've seen over the last 5 years all also come with the option to switch to wired anyway to recharge it or to just use as wired.
Only time wireless has given me problems was when I was too lazy to optimize my setup and there were a bunch of other wireless devices interfering.
This is one of the better innovations, IMO. Much better than batteries going flat at inopportune moments.
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Logitech G Pro Wireless
I just got this last week as my first mid-tier mouse after only buying MX500s-MX518s since they came out. The G502 is certainly more modern, feels premium, and doesn't feel wacky like the Intellimouse which has a big butt that intrudes on my fourth finger's resting point -- I especially like the infinite scrolling and thumb button -- but it's SOOO heavy on my thumb! My thumb joint hurts for the first time in years. If the pain continues, I might really have to go the drilling route to reduce its weight. It could just be from my age (early 40s with too much game time logged over the years), but I wouldn't get one for my kids because I don't want them getting early arthritis. Need to save those little healthy fingers so that they can play more games throughout their lives 🙂
There are many great gaming mice on the market, and the best one for you will depend on your specific needs and preferences. Some popular options include the Logitech G Pro Wireless, the Razer DeathAdder Elite, and the SteelSeries Rival 600. (The one I use). These mice are well-reviewed for their precision and customization options, but you should read reviews, compare features, and try out different models before deciding.
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