Checklist for opening a hosting company?

AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr
edited September 2022 in General

Balance for this thing: 10.000€

This is the checklist, if I've skipped something correct me:
Reg. of a company.
Rent EPYC and Xeon Gold servers, two for start or to buy cheaper and colocate them in Zagreb (https://www.hrvatskitelekom.hr/poslovni/ict/kolokacija)
IPv4 space
NO IPV6!
Proxmox?
Website
Whmcs
Payment gateway (Stripe, PayPal)
Site langs: English, German, Croatian
Plesk for shared hosting
Promo videos: me & some sexy girls in companys merch

Any ideas more for successful deadpool?

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  • @AaronSS had some experience as a start up. While he is attending his sunflower farm he can also give valuable advise.... not on woman thou.

  • edited September 2022

    btw, why now ? when prices are getting higher!!!. can't u wait or are you just starting your million laundering mega plan.

  • Make sure you have enough money to cover operating costs for the first year or so. Will take awhile until you become profitable (assuming you do).

    yabs daddy

    1. Don't.

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  • AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr

    @yoursunny said:
    1. Don't.

    My life is boring, I need to spice it up.

  • @Amadex said: My life is boring, I need to spice it up.

    At your age, all you need are plane tickets! :smiley:

    "The imitator dooms himself to hopeless mediocrity." — Ralph Waldo Emerson

  • @Amadex said:

    @yoursunny said:
    1. Don't.

    My life is boring, I need to spice it up.

    children? they will consume all time.

  • AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr

    @ehab said:

    @Amadex said:

    @yoursunny said:
    1. Don't.

    My life is boring, I need to spice it up.

    children? they will consume all time.

    I'm not ready for lifetime deals 🤣

  • @Amadex said:

    @ehab said:

    @Amadex said:

    @yoursunny said:
    1. Don't.

    My life is boring, I need to spice it up.

    children? they will consume all time.

    I'm not ready for lifetime deals 🤣

    one advise.
    if you are in your 20's then have them now.
    then you will have plenty of time in your late 40's.
    remember what i said to you.

    maybe if you have this much money, invest in something else for example buy real-estate "small shop". Rent out a car etc ... when you do proxmox all what you learn more about is payment gateways, disputes.

    wish all the best man.
    ehab

  • @Amadex said:

    @yoursunny said:
    1. Don't.

    My life is boring, I need to spice it up.

    Dude, if you need to spice things up travel a bit and have some freaky-deaky sex. Don’t start a hosting company for kicks, you’re just throwing you hard-earned down the bog.

  • vishvish ProviderOG

    Yah, not worth it. blow it on hookers instead

  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOG
    edited September 2022

    @Amadex said:

    Promo videos: me & some sexy girls in companys merch

    Any ideas more for successful deadpool?

    Charge separately for the video versions without you in them (pun intended). :)

    On a more serious note, if you haven't done it already:
    Business plan.
    Branding & marketing.
    Knowledge-base - excellent for SEO (and SEM), while also helping with tech. support load. Multilingual (English, German, and Serbocroatian)? Perfect!

    These could (should?) all be set in place well before you start.

  • Provision extra US $200 for LET provider tag.
    And similar amt for LES ads ;-)

  • I don't know, if you really want to advertise on LET anymore.
    Especially if you got 10k, you end up in bankruptcy.

  • dosaidosai OG தோசை

    @Amadex said:
    Promo videos: me & some sexy girls in companys merch

    Good luck. I'm just waiting for the videos.

    1. Have a business plan and decide who is your target market.
    2. What is your nitch? What makes you different than the rest.
    3. Start local in your town and move up from there.

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    1. Don't
    2. Follow the first point.
    3. Follow the second point.

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  • My advice would be to try to earn without spending anything first ( i,e reselling ) as a freelancer, do good work, and use that money to setup a company and formalize everything. Start looking for potential clients and then gain their business. Don't look for a low-end market, I would rather have 2~5 high-paying clients rather than a lot of low-paying ones who eventually idle and run away.

  • @ReadyDedis said:
    My advice would be to try to earn without spending anything first ( i,e reselling ) as a freelancer, do good work, and use that money to setup a company and formalize everything. Start looking for potential clients and then gain their business. Don't look for a low-end market, I would rather have 2~5 high-paying clients rather than a lot of low-paying ones who eventually idle and run away.

    See?
    No one likes us...

    :)

  • @bikegremlin said:

    :D I dont want him to go through the shit I did back in the years.

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  • @cybertech said:
    i heard onlyfans earns more

    I am sure the three of us ( @ehab @vyas and myself) would be rockin' it.

  • bikegremlinbikegremlin ModeratorOG
    edited September 2022

    @Ympker said:

    @cybertech said:
    i heard onlyfans earns more

    I am sure the three of us ( @ehab @vyas and myself) would be rockin' it.

    Wait... Aren't you already?!
    Then who am I following there?!?

    Edit:
    Just a marketing idea - send a "tegla of domaći ajvar" to every customer, every year! :)
    If that doesn't keep them, nothing will! :)
    A bottle of rakija is also a good idea (one does not exclude the other).

  • @Ympker said:

    @cybertech said:
    i heard onlyfans earns more

    I am sure the three of us ( @ehab @vyas and myself) would be rockin' it.

    your id ? 😛

  • @Amadex said:
    Promo videos: me & some sexy girls in companys merch

    If you do that, nobody will believe you know how to manage your servers.

  • @Abdullah said:

    @Ympker said:

    @cybertech said:
    i heard onlyfans earns more

    I am sure the three of us ( @ehab @vyas and myself) would be rockin' it.

    your id ? 😛

    we are going live really soon ;) @vyas is still creating our AI logo/thumbnail :P

  • @Amadex said: Rent EPYC and Xeon Gold servers, two for start or to buy cheaper and colocate them in Zagreb

    Forget about 2 (you won't get 50-100 clients in a sec)

    @Amadex said: IPv4 space
    NO IPV6!

    v4 just rent for about 120-150 eur p/m for a /24

    v6 might become a problem, as who you are after is usually firms/bigger customers (who strongly prefer v6 over price they pay), as the smaller ones won't give ya that much money

    @Amadex said: Proxmox?

    Probably your best bet rn.

    @Amadex said: Website
    Whmcs

    Either DIY it, or pay a company a few k to edit a template (I've edited my template, and copy writing is a pain in the ass)

    As for WHMCs, in most hosting templates, also have a template for WHMCS.

    @Amadex said: Payment gateway (Stripe, PayPal)

    DON'T FORGET TO CALCULATE FEES, AND ADD THEM TO YOUR PRICES.

    @Amadex said: Site langs: English, German, Croatian

    If you know those languages, then translate them yourself, as it will cost u a Lil big sum for translations.

    @Amadex said: Plesk for shared hosting

    Good.

    @Amadex said: Promo videos: me & some sexy girls in companys merch

    @Amadex said: Any ideas more for successful deadpool?

    Make this host under a fake Identity, so can't be traced back to ya after you quit.

    Synteq Technical Support, Technical Writer.
    Contact me at: +1 (307) 428 8111 or [email protected]

  • @ReadyDedis said:
    :D I dont want him to go through the shit I did back in the years.

    so instead of that, give him something useful - how to do it, instead of just telling him off

    Good day and Goodbye

  • @miu said:

    @ReadyDedis said:
    :D I dont want him to go through the shit I did back in the years.

    so instead of that, give him something useful - how to do it, instead of just telling him off

    I think it was all a joke to be fair mate :) May be mistaken, maybe @Amadex see's a post-summer gap in the market?

  • @skorupion said: If you know those languages, then translate them yourself, as it will cost u a Lil big sum for translations.

    you can get fairly cheap translations on /r/slavelabour/

  • @cmeerw said:

    @skorupion said: If you know those languages, then translate them yourself, as it will cost u a Lil big sum for translations.

    you can get fairly cheap translations on /r/slavelabour/

    I think the name of this subreddit says for itself...

    Also you might get a google translate translation, which is less than desirable

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  • miumiu
    edited September 2022

    @chris said:
    I think it was all a joke to be fair mate :) May be mistaken, maybe @Amadex see's a post-summer gap in the market?

    i do not know - if he think it serious.. (only in such cases are better recommendations how to do it better, than recommendations "don't do it")

    @Amadex
    IMHO First of all i would be resolving question FROM WHERE I WILL TAKE CUSTOMERS and calculations (what prices and plans i wanna offer them for what prices, may be these prices attractive/competitive when i take in account competition? => my chance get customers, how much customers i need get to make my monthly running profitable? from where i wanna take customers? only WBH forums => limited amount, small audience + competition is there very strong (u cannot fight with prices of GCVPS or HH, too you cannot fight technically with highly skilled providers like Liteserver, Fran etc..).. from SE? then i need good website +seo etc... (several times more important than Epyc server that will be without customers only idling))
    All other then (is not so problem reg company, set up customer portal + website and CP/hosting panel, but if first mentioned you have not resolved, then all other imo is building house from roof)
    If are money problem or uncertain thing (or i do not know your technical skill level and experience - this is too not so easy without them), too i would be more aware and rather try begin on VPSes that on the blind with dedicated servers, keep in the mind than buy army of servers is one of most easy things, but make them profitable is one of most hardest then (you must not only be able target customers and audience but too be able attract them and make decide him to go to you instead competitors). This are only my idea on your idea and my angle of view / how i would be thinking

    Good day and Goodbye

  • Definitely buy some steam games.

  • edited September 2022

    I don't think that starting a hosting company is a good idea. Too much trouble dealing with tickets and technical problems.
    My suggestion is to use your 10K to buy an existing service and put your money to extend them.
    Take a look at Flippa marketplace. https://flippa.com/
    There are plenty of apps, website, saas.

  • AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr

    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

  • @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    Setup a LLC in US. I use https://www.firstbase.io/ service to do everything. Got a Mercury bank. Taxes are also handled by Firstbase partners.

  • @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    UK. You get like 50k tax free

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  • @skorupion said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    UK. You get like 50k tax free

    Did you opt for UK LTD now? Wasn't sure which solution you'd choose.

  • @Ympker said:

    @skorupion said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    UK. You get like 50k tax free

    Did you opt for UK LTD now? Wasn't sure which solution you'd choose.

    Yep

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    Contact me at: +1 (307) 428 8111 or [email protected]

  • @skorupion said:

    @Ympker said:

    @skorupion said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    UK. You get like 50k tax free

    Did you opt for UK LTD now? Wasn't sure which solution you'd choose.

    Yep

    Nice. Gl with launch :D

  • AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr

    @quanhua92 said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    Setup a LLC in US. I use https://www.firstbase.io/ service to do everything. Got a Mercury bank. Taxes are also handled by Firstbase partners.

    Thanks for this US based.
    What about taxes in UK? Are they high for "remote non-uk citizens"? Do I need to pay healthcare if I'm not residing there etc.?

    Currently I'm migrating my existing clients to one node. France + Croatia (coming soon) servers for now. My target market is not low-end. I would rather give someone a VPS for free than do deal with chargebacks for 3$ :# .

    Brand is:
    https://www.virtmach.com/
    https://status.virtmach.com/
    https://www.virtmach.net/

  • @Amadex said:

    @quanhua92 said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    Setup a LLC in US. I use https://www.firstbase.io/ service to do everything. Got a Mercury bank. Taxes are also handled by Firstbase partners.

    Thanks for this US based.
    What about taxes in UK? Are they high for "remote non-uk citizens"? Do I need to pay healthcare if I'm not residing there etc.?

    Currently I'm migrating my existing clients to one node. France + Croatia (coming soon) servers for now. My target market is not low-end. I would rather give someone a VPS for free than do deal with chargebacks for 3$ :# .

    Brand is:
    https://www.virtmach.com/
    https://status.virtmach.com/
    https://www.virtmach.net/

    Never seek LowEndTaxAdvice - lol but I think the previous post was misguided in the 50k thing! Honestly, call an accountant here and have a proper conversation with them! Most would be willing to consult and give real advice

  • @Amadex said:

    @quanhua92 said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    Setup a LLC in US. I use https://www.firstbase.io/ service to do everything. Got a Mercury bank. Taxes are also handled by Firstbase partners.

    Thanks for this US based.
    What about taxes in UK? Are they high for "remote non-uk citizens"? Do I need to pay healthcare if I'm not residing there etc.?

    Currently I'm migrating my existing clients to one node. France + Croatia (coming soon) servers for now. My target market is not low-end. I would rather give someone a VPS for free than do deal with chargebacks for 3$ :# .

    Brand is:
    https://www.virtmach.com/
    https://status.virtmach.com/
    https://www.virtmach.net/

    https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/an-introduction-to-tax

    Nope it is 50 k tax free, and VAT is over 85 k.

    And no, you don't have to pay insurance nor pension

    Synteq Technical Support, Technical Writer.
    Contact me at: +1 (307) 428 8111 or [email protected]

  • How do you plan on scamming people? What is your exit strategy?

  • Virtmach:
    Maching not-to-be Virmach customers with bad keyboards...

  • AmadexAmadex Provider root.hr

    @lesuser said:
    How do you plan on scamming people? What is your exit strategy?

    Involucrated

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    @Amadex said:

    @quanhua92 said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    Setup a LLC in US. I use https://www.firstbase.io/ service to do everything. Got a Mercury bank. Taxes are also handled by Firstbase partners.

    Thanks for this US based.
    What about taxes in UK? Are they high for "remote non-uk citizens"? Do I need to pay healthcare if I'm not residing there etc.?

    Currently I'm migrating my existing clients to one node. France + Croatia (coming soon) servers for now. My target market is not low-end. I would rather give someone a VPS for free than do deal with chargebacks for 3$ :# .

    Brand is:
    https://www.virtmach.com/
    https://status.virtmach.com/
    https://www.virtmach.net/

    Ooft that name choice

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  • edited September 2022

    @Amadex said: Rent EPYC and Xeon Gold servers, two for start or to buy cheaper and colocate them in Zagreb (https://www.hrvatskitelekom.hr/poslovni/ict/kolokacija)

    Knowing T-Mobile their pricing is usually insane.
    Have you considered Hetzner? EX and AX product lines are quite affordable.

    edit: I am reading the T-Mobile HR prices...
    Is it colo 66.43EUR/month per 120W, 1 unit and 10Mbps speed? 🤔
    rack colo 1595.12EUR/month 3kW rack, 50Mbps speed...

  • HostSlickHostSlick Provider
    edited September 2022

    @skorupion said:

    @Amadex said:

    @quanhua92 said:

    @Amadex said:
    Any advices where to form cheaply a company with low taxes + biz bank acc outside of EU?

    Setup a LLC in US. I use https://www.firstbase.io/ service to do everything. Got a Mercury bank. Taxes are also handled by Firstbase partners.

    Thanks for this US based.
    What about taxes in UK? Are they high for "remote non-uk citizens"? Do I need to pay healthcare if I'm not residing there etc.?

    Currently I'm migrating my existing clients to one node. France + Croatia (coming soon) servers for now. My target market is not low-end. I would rather give someone a VPS for free than do deal with chargebacks for 3$ :# .

    Brand is:
    https://www.virtmach.com/
    https://status.virtmach.com/
    https://www.virtmach.net/

    https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/an-introduction-to-tax

    Nope it is 50 k tax free, and VAT is over 85 k.

    And no, you don't have to pay insurance nor pension

    Due to VAT moss as long as your digital sales to EU are less than £8,818 and your total sales (including these digital sales) are less than £85k then this is correct.

    Otherwise you are wrong

    You forget that if you habe sales above 10k/year€ to EU you need to register for MoSS and pay the VaT % of the country where your customer is from.

    This still applies after brexit.

    As ltd in UK you have to register for MoSS in one of the EU member states and EU Companies had to register for VAT In UK

    Also depending on your country you need to fill out a form and report them that you own a entity abroad.

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